Thanks Tom. One step forward, two steps back seems to be my motto with the 'finish' aspect of models right now. And the finish when you get right down to it is almost everything to the final result. If the finish sucks,......all the detail in the world can't hide it. The fact that I have to paint outside has forced me to paint with a brush in some cases. I'm still experimenting with different paints/primers etc,..but man this stuff has gotten expensive. Yikes! Haven't tired the automotive stuff yet but maybe I'll get there. Thanks for the advise.