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Just opened the one I bought today at the NNL Motor City. Body looks fine. Whew! TB
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The NNL Motor City took place on Sunday, 13 November 2022, at the Macomb Community College in Warren, Michigan (a suburb just north of Detroit). At the time these photographs were taken, there were over 450 entries in the NNL show, and enough vendors to fill the entire auditorium which is really, really large. NNL Entrants traveled from as far away as Wisconsin and central Ontario. The quality of work, and particularly paint finishes, continues to improve and impress each year. It's really quite a sight! In the following photos and the link below, I have attempted to identify each builder with a photo of their name/entry slip immediately after their model is pictured. (Where there is no name, there was no entry slip with builder info.) Here's one of the models that really impressed me - a 1960's Dodge D100 pickup gone full G-Machine by Vern Heizer... (many more photos of this one at the link).... Congrats to Rick Radeke and his DAAM team for another great show, as well as to all the model builders who created these miniature masterpieces and then traveled to share them with the NNL Motor City attendees, and via the images at this link, with all of you. Plan to attend next year's NNL Motor City in mid-November and find out for yourself what you've been missing. Also, see separately my coverage of the Round 2 table with upcoming product news in the Industry News/Kit Reviews section of the forum - it's exciting stuff. TIM
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The NNL Motor City took place on Sunday, 13 November 2022, at the Macomb Community College in Warren, Michigan (a suburb just north of Detroit). At the time these photographs were taken, there were over 450 entries in the NNL show, and enough vendors to fill the entire auditorium which is really, really large. NNL Entrants traveled from as far away as Wisconsin and central Ontario. The quality of work, and particularly paint finishes, continues to improve and impress each year. It's really quite a sight! In the following photos and the link below, I have attempted to identify each builder with a photo of their name/entry slip immediately after their model is pictured. (Where there is no name, there was no entry slip with builder info.) Here's one of the models that really impressed me - a 1960's Dodge D100 pickup gone full G-Machine by Vern Heizer... (many more photos of this one at the link).... Congrats to Rick Radeke and his DAAM team for another great show, as well as to all the model builders who created these miniature masterpieces and then traveled to share them with the NNL Motor City attendees, and via the images at this link, with all of you. Plan to attend next year's NNL Motor City in mid-November and find out for yourself what you've been missing. Also, see separately my coverage of the Round 2 table with upcoming product news in the Industry News/Kit Reviews section of the forum - it's exciting stuff. TIM
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Round 2 had a table just inside the door at the NNL Motor City today. No sooner than I had paid my money and walked through the entrance, than Steve Goldman of Round 2 yelled at me to come over and take a look. As if I wouldn't!!! Steve had really exciting news to share, and it is very clear to me that Round 2 has some incredibly exciting projects in the works that will be breaking cover in the next couple of years. In the meantime, he discussed several of their near term introductions, and gave me a thorough tour of their upcoming 1968 Dodge Coronet R/T convertible, which actually has quite a number of improvements over the original annual kit which I will attempt to show in the images at the link below. What is also evident is that more than just cloning the old AMT bodies and kit contents, Round 2 will now be using those as a starting point and engineering product upgrades, corrections to more accurately reflect the 1/1 scale kit subjects, and new build contents such as the factory hubcaps that are being added to the '65 GTO curbside kit. Be sure to check out the detail/closeup photos of the R/T convertible to hear all the revisions (well actually, according to Steve, only some of the many refinements builders will find inside the new kit box. All I can say is, keep buying these new Round 2 product introductions and there will be much more on the way in the future. Exciting times in the scale automotive kit world, for sure! All the product news in 39 photos and captions is at this link. And thanks for looking! TIM
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Wonder who will be the first to post the news from the show.....and can't wait to hear your reactions!!!!!! TB
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Someone on another forum speculated that they would all be gone by the time the doors opened to the public. Don't think so. There are closer to 200 magazines, and multiple copies of some issues. I don't know where exactly they'll be placed on the floor at the NNL Motor City, but keep your eyes out and grab a few if you find them...TIM '
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Steve and all: Very exciting to hear that the Mystery Kit may break cover at the NNL North. In this entire 22-page thread, seems to me that I recall only seeing only about three to five correct guesses. Which means that 95% of you are going to be really, really surprised. Hope Sunday is the day! Cheers...TB
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1969 Charger El-Camino style pickup....and the rest of the story...
tim boyd replied to tim boyd's topic in Model Cars
Thanks very much, David! Cheers....TIM -
Thanks Craig for your all comments! As to you reaction to my retirement from competition allowing more time for my publication work, there's actually more than a little truth to that. Plus after a couple of years, I realized that as a writer//builder, I really shouldn't be competing against the very hobbyists who are reading my work. One of those rare instances where it all aligned perfectly...TB
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Heads-up if you are headed to the NNL Motor City....there will be a large number (well over a hundred) back issues of model car magazines that will be free for the taking there. These are being donated by the Estate of late modeler Chuck Helppie as well as clearing out duplicates from my own magazine collections. Includes issues of Model Cars, Scale Auto, Scale Auto Enthusiast, Scale Auto Modeller (UK publication), Motor Racing Models, Scale Auto Contest Annuals, Car Modeler Annuals, and more. Thanks to Steve Perry for handling the logistics of getting the magazines to the show floor. Feel free to take all the issues that you want, as whatever is left at the end of the show will go in the recycling bin... Best....TIM
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Bob....thanks a bunch for posting that link. Sure didn't remember that article being 11 pages long, but Hank was a very inspiring (and fun to read) author inspired us (including you and I) to try new thinigs in our modeling. I never even tried Swirladelic, but from what I hear, it was a hit or miss proposition. And the technique first appeared, if I am recalling correctly, in an AMT kit (possibly the Funny Hugger 1 Camaro???) that was first released in 1969??? Best....TIM
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Jim....great to hear your reaction. The cobwebbing was demonstrated by modeler journalist Hank Borger in Car Model magazine around 1972ish. It basically involves taking a #00000 brush, dipping it is a bottle of Testors enamel (like the old PLA bottles), and slowlly pulling the brush away from the bottle, causing the paint to create a long, thin strand of paint. And then having your model car surface to receive the paint lying below the stretched strand and letting the strand selttle on the model surface. It then has to be sealed under a coat of clear. Explaining this now makes me wonder how I ever pulled that stuff off! Must have taken a ton of practice first. Here's an image of the model that Hank used to demonstrate the technique in his article,; you can see it in the hood stripes. I photographed it at the NNL Motor City last fall...it currently resides in the model collection of John Ostrenga of Wisconsin....TIM
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Ron...yes, actually that happened several times in my earlier modeling career. (My 1968 MPC/Car Model/Doge funny car entry that won 4th nationwide melted in front of the photography booth during picture taking; it took 50 years (until 2019) to bring that one back to life, and my 1970 MPC National Finals entry, a maili-in to the national finals, was finally returned after many calls to the Car Model Magazine office, in a box with no packing and in many pieces. That one I put back together relatively quickly, but it was never the same in total). Upon reflection, it is a bit surprising I stuck with the hobby! Best...TB
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Hah, Tim, thanks for your comments!!!! For those that do not know, after being a winner himself in the early years, Tim Slesak became a judge (if I am remembering correctly) during the later years of MPC Contest series l(mid-late 1970's). In the earlier days (1969-early 1970's), the MPC judges were mostly the same ISCA judges who did the full-size judging. In the shows run by Carl Casper (Flint, Dayton, Cincy, Louisville et al) he judged the model contests himself. In later years of the series, accomplished model car builders (and past MPC contest winners) were asked to join in on judging, which in my view generally helped to deliver better results. Tim was NOT a judge in the 1972 finals that I commented on above, and I do not recall him being a part of the 1979 Omaha Regional Finals either (although I do recall that two of the three judges there were well known participants in the model car hobby). I even myself was asked to help judge one of the MPC National Finals (in a year I was not competing), as well as helping judge several of the earliest GSL's (before I stopped due to my concerns over the judging policies), and for several of the Rider's Hobby Shop chain contests in Michigan. Soon after I stopped judging in total because I just didn't feel right about "anointing" one model as being superior over another, particularly as the skill levels increased and more competitive models were found in all the contests (but I digress....). Tim, I obviously greatly appreciate your kind comments and observations about my collective body of modeling work. As for the 1972 MPC Nationals Finals winners, they were Steve Anderson, National Champion (dual rear engine streamliner rail), Dave Nowatniak, Second Nationwide, and Scott Sullivan, Third (Plymouth Road Runner Funny Car). Tough crowd, to be sure! (Source: Appendix A, p. 177, The GSL International Model Car Championship, by Mark S. Gustavson, 1998, Championship Publishing LLC, Salt Lake City, UT). Of note, Steve Anderson was also the 1979 MPC National Champion, and the overall winner of the first Hot Rod Magazine model car contest in the late 1980's. Finally, for those reading this thread, highly recommend you follow Tim Slesak's build threads. He is doing some flat-out awesome work these days...TB
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Thanks so much for the comments, Bob. Back in the MPC Contest days, much of the factor in winning was showing creativity, not just accuracy and workmanship. Kinda (actually, very cool) to hear it registered as inventive on your end! In answer to your question about decals, I cut them out of two decal sheets from the AMT Tommy Ivo Front Engine dragster kits which were first issued during the time I was working on these models.... Best...TB
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1969 Charger El-Camino style pickup....and the rest of the story...
tim boyd replied to tim boyd's topic in Model Cars
David....I recall starting that model sometime in 1969 and i would have been age 15 at the time. The three car set was finally completely finished just before our April 1972 trip to Washington DC for the MPC Regional Finals there, and I turned 18 that month. I believe the pickup was finished before the other two cars, probably in late 1970 or early 1971 when I would have been 16....TB -
Round 2 November 2022 Product Spotlight
tim boyd replied to Dave Darby's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
Roger, I agree with your comments on the backlight width and respectfully disagree on the top leaving an as built "chopped" appearance. To each his own, I guess, but thanks for the response and your info. TIM -
Not a NASCAR fan at all, but just ordered this - congrats to Joey Logano and the Ford Performance Team, and also to Salvinos for proving a business model no one thought would work does indeed create a viable enterprise and a very cool series of products that are filling an otherwise unaddressed model car kit market segment. Bravo! TIM
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UPDATE: On Monday 24 October I emailed Moebius requesting replacements as noted in my prior post copied above. On Thursday 27 OctoberI rec'd an email response from Moebius apologizing for the issues and stating that replacements were going in the mail the same day. On Monday 31 October I rec'd a package with the parts. It was sent first class mail. Today I checked the replacement parts and they are perfect. I'm sure they wish, as we do, that this had never happened, but their response as mentioned here and in other message in this thread suggest that they are doing their best to rectify the situation. Best....Tim
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Like you John, I would vote for the '67 to 72 Chevy/GMC pickups to be Moebius' next truck kit project. Specifically, starting with the '67/'68 with its unique hood design which is really popular in the 1/1 scale hot rod and restoration marketplace, and is essentially unavailable to us modelers due to the costs of AMT 1967 and MPC 1968 annual kits these days. I don't speak for Moebius here, but unlike many kit requests that are voiced on this board, I think this specific subject actually has a decent chance of eventually materializing in kit form, whether from Moebius, Revell, Round 2, or someone else. TB
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Round 2 November 2022 Product Spotlight
tim boyd replied to Dave Darby's topic in Car Kit News & Reviews
The Moebius Nova and Chevy II sedan Gasser kits were not based on a digitally scanned 1/1 car to my understanding, which was the primary discussion taking part above in this thread. During the model kit project development, an early version of the data set (not derived from 1/1 scale digital scanning) was 3D printed, again to my understanding, which was the prototype shown several years ago. Also, as has been discussed at length on other threads here, my research led me to the conclusion that the Chevy II Gasser two door sedan roof was not chopped. It appeared as chopped because there was an exaggerated height to a molding along top of the door and quarter panels, which visually served to reduce the DLO (daylight opening above the sill and below the roof). When Moebius made adjustments to the tooling to address this issue, the concerns about the roof appearing chopped seemed to me to largely disappear in the model car hobby. Having said that, I again acknowledge that some others (including yourself) see this differently. I also do agree with some of your other critiques of the final roof design, although to my eye they are minor enough that they do not impact me personally enough to keep me from building the kit again a second time. The question you pose on costs of digitally scanning 1/1 scale cars vs. having to redo tooling to address proportion issues is one that I too have questioned for a long time. Even fifteen years ago, the costs to digitally scan a 1/1 were only in the mid 4-dgit range (at least to 1/1 scale automotive manufacturers), and certainly would have gone down in cost since then. As alluded to in Steve's post above, the real cost hit was in the personnel and hours to take the resulting digital data, process it, and adapt it for a scale model kit tool. At the time, Revell was not willing to take that step, but in more recent years (including the kits you referenced, as well as the Starsky and Hutch car (I am told)) have proven (I hope) to Revell that the investment in 1/1 scale digital scanning is worth it in the long run. How those economics affect a smaller volume manufacturer like Moebius (where much of the kit development is largely done by one person to my understanding), I could not say. I hope the economics evolve to the point where 1/1 scale digital scanning becomes more of a given in pretty much all kit development, as I share the belief of many here that it does lead to a more authentic scale replica. Best...TB