MoparWoman Jamie

Hi you all, I can't remember what the name of the other thread in here was that I had going (I looked back quite afew pages an couldn't find it).. so I'm starting a new one for this project. Let me give alittle info about the model project here please, I'm helping a friend that is like a brother to me out by building this model for him. He is the one that had track down most of the parts for on it really, Alittle thanks goes out to Romel (a follow board member we all know) as well for the info on some things too. This project means alot to my brother you can say as his uncle loose to drive truck too before he past away over 6 years ago. My brother stop building models when his uncle past. He doesn't have the patantice to build models you can say.. so he came to me an asked me if I would build a semi truck model for him back in 2009. Something that he really wanted but he didn't have patantice to build a model though as he has a family an things going on. I asked him quite afew things about what he had in mind. I'm not going to say to much yet about the project to leave the cat out of the bag (LOL). But he wanted something that was special to him an remind him of his uncle that was like father to him. The project is alittle tricky I might say (LOL) even to me. He wanted the model to have working things an lights as well an asked me if I could do it.. I told him I could give it my best shot. The sleeper when he got it was a issue right off. The sleeper he ordered was not really in the correct size so I had to chop it two times an get it into the correct size. The cab was a story in itself also (LOL). Talk about weak plastic. The frame of the chassis was also a slight issue that I took care of. I have built rig models before but nothing like this kit though on it's kit parts. The kit he got was an Italeri one.. he pick the kit out.. not me. He's a big Mack fan an loves the Mack's. But the model I'm working on building for him is a Australian model but being built as an U.S mack version though meaning instead of it being right hand drive like Australian is (I guess) , it's U.S. style on the Left side. Anyways, here is afew photos of the progress so far. Now here is the dash an floor area

Thank you all for the advice an help on this. My friend paid good money for the semi kit an it's weak plastic really. I had to change glues to work with it as the glue I mostly use will melt through the plastic. Then the other day I went to work with the kit again an seen the chrome is chipping off bad. The grill along has lost a big chunk on the bottom, the one head light bezel lost it's chrome almost also an when my friend went to look at the chrome parts after I told him about the chrome, it started chipping off in his hand too. I wouldn't trust tape over the stuff (Laughs Out Loud) due to how the chrome is chipping off. If anymore of you all can remember anymore chrome plater's out there please post by all means. Thank you all.

I was wondering is there any chrome platers out there that does chrome plating for model car parts? A friend of mine bought an Italeri rig kit an the chrome in it is no good at all, it's chipping off all over the place. I would like to send out the parts an have then rechromed alot better then what Italeri does.

I think he done got lost some where! LOL Do we need to send out a search party for him?

Man, if I look at it looking downwards at the top of my screen, it looks pale orange, but if as I look at it from different angles on my screen. The orange color changes each time and at each angle. So I say if I look at it from looking downwards, I agree with you about it being incorrect.

The first time I got to drive, was when I around man I would say I was 10 years old come to think about it. I set on my dad's lap and he used the pedals and let me steer his 1974 Ford Pick-up. Then I finally got to drive it later on when I was around 12 back on the old farm. The first car I drove out on the road one night with my parents in the car was a 1984 Ford LTD. Dad was the only one in the family that had license. He got sick on the way home half way. Mom had to left feet, so dad told me to get behind the wheel (I had no driver license yet) and drive us home. I was around I would say 15 at the time. First time for me driving on a back road at night. After we got home I told mom not to blame me as it wasn't my idea to drive. I was hooked though after that on driving.

There is now really afew colors in the hobby world that will work for the General Lee paint color. There is Hemi Orange (Two part stage), Competition Orange, and Racing Orange (if I recall that is the name of the paint).

Look on page 2 in the general area here for a thread "Calling all General Lee Fans - revised" . You should find your info there that you seek. EV2 is the correct color that was used on the GA cars. It also depends what color primer you got with as well before adding the orange. The primer can change the orange color big time.

For a prate, wasn't the prate captain or the main guy the boss.. didn't he/she always wear alot more then what the others did to show they was the big man in charge? So there for, I think the piping should also show signs of the big man also on his ship. I think the piping you used, is a good size sign of the big man kinda to so to his passengers (ship mates). I like what you are doing on this build.

So you know, all the cars they used on the show, was painted orange right over the factory colors on the exterior with doors an hoods ect close. There is a few episodes where they have the hoods up and at times the engine bays wasn't black at all like the story line had. The engine bays was what ever color the car was from factory mostly. A stunt car had all it's stuff removed that it didn't need for the stunt. This mean almost all wiring of lights was cut and the wiring and lights was all removed from the car. The turn signals in some of the episodes you could clearly see was removed all together. Heck some of the stunt cars even had there upper part where the door panel would go cut clean out to get the stuff out of the door. The photo that was posted was probably from one the 1st unit cars. They had when the show went back to CA, had 7 cars on hand mostly, and 3 cars on set/site per episode in case one car didn't run they use another one. Not all the cars on the show ran, there would be at times where Bo & Luke would run out and jump in the General and go to start it and it wouldn't start. They had to use a chain to pull the car off screen at times because they would not run at times. Now if the scene called for the hood up, they would get one of the cars that they had painted the engine bay black on to do that very scene mostly. But there was episodes where the engine bay wan't black though but at times white and other colors.

(LOL) boy, talk about the board attacking the member!(LOL) Hey Chuck, I think we get it man as to what you was saying. Each time I read Matt's reply, I can't help but crack up laughing. (LOL) boy, talk about the board attacking the member!(LOL) Hey Chuck, I think we get it man as to what you was saying. Each time I read Matt's reply, I can't help but crack up laughing.

John, I love this build, like I do your other builds and the ones yet to come. I have to say, I like really like the out come so far on this one though. I like the color combo you went with. Very nice.

Well when people talk about the General Lee, a lot of people are always for getting one thing. When they complain about the old General, are they complaining about the General Lee or the charger under the paint job? You see, each General Lee build that goes on, there is two things, parts of the build. The General Lee itself and also the Charger that is under that paint job. There is no correct General Lee really unless you build one from a certain episode. But then you also have to think about the Charger as well that played that General. Like how was it made from the factory. Things like that if you want to go correct for both sides of the build. The same goes for if your building one for a certain season of the show. But if your building one your way, it's up to the builder to decide how ever they want to build it then. Now about the forums, well I think a Tv/Movie one work very well, because there was the series 1979-1985 then 2005 there was a movie made, then in 2007 we had yet another movie made as well. So there for the General Lee build would fit in a Tv/Movie area very well.. plus it would also fit on the work bench area as well. But what gets me is this, and it's like someone else point out, why enter the thread just to complain about it (LOL) if you don't like it, easy thing to do if you didn't like the build would be not enter the thread at all and just avoid it and go to the threads you like.

I'm not sore who is worst, the other member trying so hard to brake the habit or Harry braking his own boss's rule with just posting a smiley icon himself. (LOL) I'm doing my dang-est also to not post a smiley myself in my reply's.

The General in the series was portrayed as a dirt track racecar. Even Waylon himself mention it in "Repo Man" which was the last of the 5 first 5 GA episodes.

It can be, but you will have to scratch build about 90% of it though. The 1:16 kit is the worst kit for a General Lee model. The chassis, interior are way incorrect. Now if you can scratch build the interior to look correct for stock '68 or '69 charger, then you can use the roll cage in the kit but then you might also have to modify it a little here and there though. But the stunt cars had that same kind of roll cage for the big jumps (minus the styxs river jumper). The chassis, is like a nascar chassis.. and you will have to scratch build a engine bay, and from frame rails if you want it to look anything like a real charger. This also goes for the whole chassis as well. The interior, is almost no better. I mean it has a flat dash, and the cluster panel is a flat area with stock car gauges and doesn't at all look anything like a standard charger one. So the whole dash would have to be scratch built. There is no console in the kit either, and the floor board has no detail almost, just for a few fuel line running down I think the driver side of it. The seats are from a 1970 high backs, you could modify them and with some work turn them into '69's. There is no rear seat in the kit either, but then again alot of the stunt cars on the show didn't have no interior either just a driver seat. But in the COT episode (two part episode) at the end in Part 2 where Bo and Luke gets ready to take off for the 32 park car jump, they show two cars (General Lees) one shows with both front seats but no back seat and that car also has a roll cage in it (you can see the hoop at the windsheild line top) and over spray of the chestnut color brown on the window as well where it was spray bombed. Now i said there was two cars (General Lee's) the first car that starts the jump didn't clear the cars (It took out the last car on the pile) as teh General Lee leaves the ramps and has it's nose downwards and tail upwards, The 2nd General Lee is the car you see land and buckle badly at both ends. This car also had the rear bumper fasten with cable wrapped around it and ran in through the tail light panel. Now the thing with the General Lee's is this, there is really no correct orange paint, In the start of the series in the first five episodes, 3 cars was built in CA almost, Lee3 was the first car built in Ca and was used for the promo shots, Lee1 and Lee2 was built down in GA well not really built, just finished up being built is all. Lee1 was teh first to do the stunt over Rosco in front of the Oxford Collage Saturday (14th I think) 1978 at around 8AM in the morning. Lee2 was jump down Elm Street the following Wednesday for the opening shot of the One Arm Bandits at around 3PM as they had to hold school bus's back for that stunt to take place. That car Lee2 was rebuilt and reused again for another scene in the junkyard with the fbi agents. Lee3 went back to CA and was killed off the The Meeting when it jump the black limo. How they numbered the cars was not how they built them, they numbered them as they used them for filming down in GA. Hence Lee1 (1st car used for filming), Lee2 (2nd car used) and Lee3 the same thing. Now they also bought 3 extra cars for General's down in GA to make and also use as part cars. there was 2 1968's and 1 1969 Charger. One charger was also chopped at the front end and grafted onto another General that had a bad front end damage. They called this car the Frankenstein General Lee. The color that they said the first 3 General Lee's was when they showed up in GA was Hemi orange, but when the guys down there had to repair the cars and touch them up, the body guys went with EV2 Orange though. Now when they went back to CA, and got building the cars back there, they had not body shop building the cars but as the show went on they had around 4 body shops in total. That's why through the run of the series the cars color would change slightly. They started out with the small push bars, and then later in mid 2nd season or 3rd they changed to the wider version of the push bar. Reason is this. The small push bars was the issue, they would at times fly back and hit the "I" piece in the grill and bust it, and at times bust it right out. You can see this in the COT episode as well in Part 1, whenRosco was towing the General Lee and he comes to a stop in front of the court house and the General Lee rolls up (being towed by the potrol car) rolls up and bangs into the tail end of the portol car and the push bar hits the "I" area in the grill and shoved it backwards. This also indention as well that this was also a '68 charger used to play the General Lee in this scene. They went with the winder push bars, as they would not only attach to the frame up under the car BUT also welded to the chrome bumper as well on some of the General Lee's. There is one episode in the 5th season with Coy and Vance, where Coy had to ram a car in the tail with the General Lee and you can see the damage of both cars in that scene. The push bars when they was mounted, now here is where alot of people on the models would mess up at. they would/will mount the push bars way down low (incorrect place). The push bars top bar on the small push bars (they was 3 different small versions styles used on the series) the top bar would be either at the chrome trim level of the top of the grill or at times just afew hairs below it. The bottom bar always lined up with the bumper face (on both the small and wide versions). The wide versions, the top bar would line up in front of the top chrome trim of the grill top, and the bottom bar would line up with like I said with the bumper face. Now for the cars, the doors on the real cars did open, but the story line they was welded shut, but in scenes at times you could at mer sec's see the cast using the doors (behind or under trees) and when they cut they would be either already in the car or sliding in through the window. The episode Days of Shine and Roses is a good episode , watch as Luke Grabs the Detour Sign as Bo pulls the General up under a tree, and when Luke runs back across the road, you can see him slightly use the door to get into the car. When they cut, to him inside the General he just shuts it as the scene cuts to him from another view camera. They had 5 different style cages as well for in the cars depending for the stunt the car was going to do. In the Cale's one episode where they had 3 General Lee's on screen at the same time, in the one scene where Jesse does the 180 turn in front of Boss'. You can see the one style of the roll cage as the car spins around. The bars in the back seat area criss cross each other and was mounted to the frame rails with plates. There was also a few ski car General Lee's also which was a few made to go up on two wheels and ski between or around things. Only one of these cars still serves today yet. The General Lee's interior colors was a Dark Tan, to light tan used in the later season's. The dark tan, when in the shadows on the show appears to be black interior though which the General Lee didn't have. They went from the dark tan to the light tan due for the camera lights and what not to reflect off of. With the Dark tan the stuff wouldn't reflect to well at all. The General's in the start of the show and the first few season's also had at times the side marked painted right over orange on some of the cars. Then later when WB changed builders, and went to in house building the cars, they took all side markens off the chargers. The color orange they used was mostly what ever orange they had on hand at the time when building the charger into a Lee. At times they would also mix the oranges together as well just to have enough paint to build one or two Lee's that day. Some of the cars that did the stunts, there paint wasn't even dry yet as they needed a car that fast for a scene to be made. The decals, the flag in the series, in some, was mostly painted on and had vinyl stars applied to the flag which was cut out from the crew members and there family's. Most of the stuff like the 01, text was decals, but they also used flag decals as well here and there. When WB took over, after a car was jumped, and totaled, they would strip the car of it's parts, hood, doors. roof skins, trunk panel, interior stuff. You name it, they removed it. They did this so the junkyard they took the cars to wouldn't resell them, as there was afew of the General's that had been taken to the scrap yard was sold off to the public back in the day when the show was on the air yet. When WB got wind of this they started to remove all things off the car that revealed it was a General before taking the car to the scrap yard. Also the decals on the cars, here is where some people gets the decal locations incorrect at, some people will apply the decals with the text in the center of the charger roof both on real chargers and also on the models. This is incorrect location. The correct location is, on the driver side, the "G" starts out above and between the flag and drip rail above the door vent window tip on the roof. The Pass side the last "E" in Lee ends at the same location on the pass side where the "G" started at on the driver side. The real flag was 4 inches back from the windshield edge in front, 3 1/2 on the rear by the rear window. The numbers was 2inches above the bottom edge of the doors, and the numbers didn't follow the door conture line like "Lee1" ones did. Only the first few General Lees in the first episode had the crossing flags on the rear deck tray area though and was not seen after that in the series run. The cb antenna's. The show on the General had 3 different styles. The tear drop, The Avanti, and a D-900A (I think that was the 3rd one name). The cb units, they also had afew different styles of them as well in the General's. Cobra was one of the most used though. The cars on the show didn't have the Dixie horn in them, only the one first few General Lee's had the horn bought from a car that was pasting by and installed into the charger. After that, the horn became a edited in sound effect in the episodes. The cars mostly used 318's, 383's and 440's. The 383's and 440's was mostly used for the big stunts, where as the 318's was used for the small stuff an on ground stunts. During the show, they went through 300 Chargers. 17 served the show, and around 6 more real General Lee's has had turn up also in the last 10 years as well that was repainted over for other things after the show ended in 1985.

I just wanted to say thanks to those who helped out with info. I did learn a few things also about the bits from you all.

Wwll the weight kinda isn't really a weight to what it looks like, the blue one here on the side has a number #57 on it. I have another one with a #54 on it that is also blue.

I just check they do have them, but the thing is, they state on their web site only sold in stores only. I don't have one of their store near me though as I am aware of. Thanks for the info though, at least I know one place now that carries the stuff.

I apologize for not being more clear on my question, I guess they might be called something different. I was told they was weighted drill bits. But to help out here with some more info, the bits I'm talking about has a color ring around them on the bits that can slide off and on depending if you apply enough weight to the rings that is. Here is a photo of one. Where all kind I find these ones at?

Hi you all, I know that some of you know where these things can be found besides just at Micro mark. I'm in search for these weighted drill bits to use in a dremel. Any help would very greatly appreciated. Thank you.

Rom, #3, by reading what you said, do mean for a person to build a model 100% from strach? I'm #2 and #4

Thank you! that is a very very big help. I was missing that one photo from my packet. Thank you.

Well it appears there are to many people on this site right now. Dave himself once told me by PM that when around 200 people gets on the site, it will act because of the service the server is on. I would say fork out alittle money, and buy a server host that can handle the stuff if you want a good site to run right and not have issues all the time.