I would love to have Revell's tires in a parts pack!

[oldcarfan]

I guess the title says it all, but I really would love to see Revell release some of their current tires and wheels in a parts pack format. Maybe the tires and wheels from the Rat Roaster and the same from the new 29 A. Possibly some of the Chip Foose or similar sets as well for later types of cars? Just a thought for what little that is worth! Lol. It might be a way to get more mileage out of the molds. Don't know if it is feasible to produce just those parts, but it would be nice.

[louie]

I think it's a very good thought. If AMT ( Round 2) can do it why not Revell. I like the the idea, who knows anything is possible. I'm with you on this one. Thank you.    Jeff 

[StevenGuthmiller]

Absolutely.

Even Mobius is offering the tires from the '65 Plymouth as separate items, why not Revell.

I would like to see some of their wide whites offered as "tire packs".

 

Steve

[Greg Myers]

Revell  

[Exotics_Builder]

Over the last couple of years every time I've interviewed them or asked questions at a show, the response is that there is NO interest in doing any new parts packs or reissuing any old ones.  There does not appear to be enough return for the investment.  And the last issue of the parts pack engines lack of sales is used as an example. 

Right now, other than AMT's, Casters like Chief Joseph (Fireball Modelworks) are the best sources.

I'm hoping Revell will eventually reconsider, but it does not appear, to me, likely in the near term.

[JTalmage]

I love the Goodyear tires that have came in their Cobra/Corvettes/32 Deuce, and most recently the Starsky and Hutch Torino

[espo]

I think I can understand where they're coming from. How many times have you purchased a Revell kit to get the wheels and tires or even other parts ? I've used the 40% off coupons from Hobby Lobby to do this and keep an eye on their Bargain area for long unsold kits. While I save money Revell still sells a kit and doesn't have to deal with different wheels and tires that they probably will not make much income off of. It's a smart business decision on their part.

[Casey]

Even Mobius is offering the tires from the '65 Plymouth as separate items, why not Revell.

Moebius has ten automotive kits in their lineup, none of which can realistically be reissued within the next few years, so they releasing tires sets separately gives them more items to sell. Round2 releases roughly a dozen automotive kits each year, and to their credit, they have created many new tires and parts (injector stacks for one) with the intention of releasing them in Parts Pack form in addition to including the new parts with complete kits.  Revell has over 150 automotive kits in their active catalog, so a $13.99 tire set will need to sell twice as many units as a $26.95 complete kit to make it worth their while. Is there enough consumer demand for each person to buy two tires sets for each kit they purchase?

Yes, all three companies produce and sell model kits, but they are all very different companies, despite the superficial similarities.

[Muncie]

I'm hoping Revell adds an extra set of wheels in the Foose FD100 and EldoRod kits.  Those kits will have unique tires so the wheel choices that fit will be limited to what's in the box.  Good for Revell and Chip because it makes the kit a two-in-one  - either as a replica or something special for the builder.  It would make the wheels and tires useful for other projects as well.

[StevenGuthmiller]

 Revell has over 150 automotive kits in their active catalog, so a $13.99 tire set will need to sell twice as many units as a $26.95 complete kit to make it worth their while.

That doesn't really compute for me.

How could it not be worth their while to sell a set of tires that probably cost only pennies to produce @ half the price of a complete kit containing those same tires?

Seems like a no brainer to me.

Obviously Round 2 must be able to sell them.

They've been available for several years.

I personally have bought at least 20 sets of them in the past 3 years, & probably only 3 kits.

& Modelhaus sells tires by the truck load.

Surely there's a market for them if everyone "except" Revell is doing it.

I won't pretend to know all of the ins & outs of kit marketing, but it seems to me that if you can sell 2 sets of tires for $14.00, I'm not sure why you wouldn't jump on the chance to make an easy buck.

I would think it would be almost pure profit, minus packaging.

 

Steve

[oldcarfan]

I just figure they already have paid for the molds, so maybe they could get extra use out of them. Even when the original source kit isn't currently being produced, they could maybe pick up some more money on the wheels and tires. Plus it keeps guys like me coming back to the hobby shop.

[StevenGuthmiller]

I just figure they already have paid for the molds, so maybe they could get extra use out of them. Even when the original source kit isn't currently being produced, they could maybe pick up some more money on the wheels and tires. Plus it keeps guys like me coming back to the hobby shop.

Makes sense to me.

 

Steve

[LDO]

Someone else would love to have the rest of that '29 or '32. 

Get a Rat Roaster and we can work out a trade. I'd love to put AMT's '32 Phantom Vicky wheels and tires on it. Keep the SBC, too. I want a Ford mod motor in it. No joke. Let's make a deal.

 

[Greg Myers]

Model logic, does anything the model company's do make any sense ? 

[Casey]

I just figure they already have paid for the molds, so maybe they could get extra use out of them. Even when the original source kit isn't currently being produced, they could maybe pick up some more money on the wheels and tires.

The parts pack wheels Round2 has created are what I would describe as a "self-contained" mini sprue, and not part of a larger sprue containing other parts for a specific kit. Compare any newly created Round2 wheel parts pack to say, the Rat Roaster's wheels, and we see the Revell wheels were never designed to be sold separately. Are you advocating Revell to do what Round2 has done and create an independent, mini-sprue for each new wheel set they design for every kit? Or only a few? If so, which ones?

Round2 has the luxury of a small, manageable lineup of automotive kits to work with, and the fact that they have almost no money invested in new kit tooling is factor in their ability to offer these parts packs. They aren't creating any all new kits to go with these parts pack wheels, just inserting the new wheels into re-issued kits, so the Round2 parts packs are all generic wheels, and are not specifically designed to replicate wheels used on a particular vehicle such as the Rat Roaster. Have you considered how many Rat Roaster kits would've had the independent mini-sprue containing just the wheel parts lost during the chrome plating process or during packaging? Is the time and cost of extra design work, manufacturing, packaging, and sales effort going to result in enough profit to justify the investment? Again, I don't have the numbers to say for sure either way, but like Gerry stated above, I have also been told the Revell Parts packs were poor sellers, and Revell is not interested in parts packs, period.

[High octane]

If I don't already have enough kits, wheels, tires, engines, photo-etched parts, resin parts, etc., I shouldn't be in this hobby period!

[oldcarfan]

Thanks for the responses one and all.  I have bought many a kit  for that one  particular part that I just had to have for a build. Usually it is tires and wheels. It just bothers some part of me to have a kit sitting around waiting to have its missing parts returned to it. It's like it is calling out to me! Lol. I just pictured those Rat Rod sets and the ones from the Midget racers and all the other cool ones Revell makes being a neat add on for the guy who goes in to buy a kit that he wants to do something different with. 

[stavanzer]

Well, I know at least One Tire set that Revell could sell a ton of.

The Oddball "Toyo?" tires from their Tuner Hondas/Acuras. With 4 sets of different wheels per kit, and only one set of tires, I have 18 sets of Tuner Wheels needing tires.

You'll notice that as was mentioned earlier, that the Tuner Wheels ARE on a separate sprue. They could be marketed with that one sprue and 16 tires by themselves. Not sure if it would be worth taking the chance on for Revell, however. Might be more trouble than it's worth, as Gerry and Casey have already noted. Revell have tooled some really excellent tires lately. I'd buy just the tires, and go resin for the wheels, if I had to. At least the Tires would not require any changes in tooling to sell, by themselves. Since Round2 and Moebuis are have some luck with tires, I'd like to think Revell can be talked into doing it. However, a caveat. Should Revell listen to us, and take a chance on Tire packs, we are thus obligated to pony up, and buy truckloads of them, in order not to spook Revell going forward. If Revell overcomes their (justified) fear of Parts Packs, it be us 1% Online Modelers who shift the needle. It will be up to that same 1% to help it pay off. 

 

[oldcarfan]

So true!

[Deathgoblin]

I've got an odd question:  In any of the parts packs, AMT or Revell, are there the smaller tires?  Like the ones for the Capri II or the Corvair kits?  It'd be nice to have for cars that had smaller tires to begin with.

[oldcarfan]

Right now Modelhaus would be your best bet on those.

[Jantrix]

There are several Revell wheel and tire sets that I would happily buy by themselves. The big & little wide whites from the '29 pick-up pops to mind. Add the steelies with trim ring and center cap and I'd be a happy guy.

[Jordan White]

Personally, I would not pay $14 for a set of tires (especially without wheels) that have no sidewall detail and brand names. I could get very nice Aoshima and Fujimi wheel/Tire sets with disc brakes for about that or less from various sources.

[Luc Janssens]

Revell had some great Goodyear tires in the past, so sometimes I buy a 5 dollar pre '05ish kit, just for the tires