Matt Bacon Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 http://www.pocher.com/model-kits/mercedes-benz-300-sl-gullwing.html Skip will be needing a second mortgage... and Harry might come closer up to date with his Big Boys... It looks fabulous. $799, it seems. But it probably takes as long to build as any 40 regular kits. bestest, M.
MrObsessive Posted January 26, 2016 Posted January 26, 2016 (edited) Ooooooooh!! I just happened to see my next Holy Grail! That is a definite MUST HAVE in my collection before I leave this earth!! I would LOVE to see Pocher branch out into more classics in 1:8! '57 Corvette anyone?? Or how 'bout a '63 Ferrari 250 GT Lusso?? Edited January 26, 2016 by MrObsessive
sjordan2 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) http://www.pocher.com/model-kits/mercedes-benz-300-sl-gullwing.html Skip will be needing a second mortgage... and Harry might come closer up to date with his Big Boys... It looks fabulous. $799, it seems. But it probably takes as long to build as any 40 regular kits. bestest, M. You've got that straight. But my heart bypass on this news will cost more than the kit. I'm going to need a Kickstarter account to get this one. Edited January 27, 2016 by sjordan2
horsepower Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 You've got that straight. But my heart bypass on this news will cost more than the kit. I'm going to need a Kickstarter account to get this one.I can see a lot of "go fund me" accounts popping up on Facebook as soon as everyone sees it.
BVC500 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Looks good, except for one glaring thing. Tell me if you agree...is there a seam running along the bottom of the rear side window to the base of the rear window? It looks like the whole roof structure is a completely separate part, and I wonder if this was done for manufacturing purposes. If this is so, it is completely inaccurate and sucks because this is a pre-painted model and not easy to correct unless you strip, fill and repaint. Edited January 27, 2016 by BVC500
Jon Cole Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Looks good, except for one glaring thing. Tell me if you agree...is there a seam running along the bottom of the rear side window to the base of the rear window? It looks like the whole roof structure is a completely separate part, and I wonder if this was done for manufacturing purposes. If this is so, it is completely inaccurate and sucks because this is a pre-painted model and not easy to correct unless you strip, fill and repaint.Um, not sure what you are referring to. All I see at bottom of side window is the graceful curves of the rear quarter. Kind of difficult to form an opinion on that area from a forward 3/4 shot.
BVC500 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Look at the photos on the website. You can zoom in on them. Multiple photos show a joint (or separation line) for the whole roof structure. You can see this at the base of the A pillar in one of the interior shots, and along the area I described in other shots. Edited January 27, 2016 by BVC500
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) Yup, exactly. I pointed that out in a discussion over this kit outside this forum. Riiight over that rear fender in this view: Don't think it's gonna stop me, just gotta figure out the filler and paint matching. Edited January 27, 2016 by Chuck Kourouklis pic added for clarification
Joe Handley Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 I'm going to have to forward this to my boss in the morning, we've sold a couple of their Aventadors prior to Christmas.
Deathgoblin Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Yup, exactly. I pointed that out in a discussion over this kit outside this forum. Riiight over that rear fender in this view: Don't think it's gonna stop me, just gotta figure out the filler and paint matching. I see what you mean. Just under the quarter window is a piece of molding that isn't on the real car.
Daddyfink Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Very nice! And I think that anyone that is going to buy it and build it will most likely have the skills necessary to fix a seam. Or I hope they do!
BVC500 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) For a $800 pre-painted kit, I don't think its acceptable to have to strip, fill the seam and repaint. Then again, if you wanted a different color, it wouldn't be such a big deal.Pocher should offer these kits unpainted or at least primed. Edited January 27, 2016 by BVC500
sjordan2 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 Look at the photos on the website. You can zoom in on them. Multiple photos show a joint (or separation line) for the whole roof structure. You can see this at the base of the A pillar in one of the interior shots, and along the area I described in other shots. Seems odd for an expensive, ambitious kit like this. Let's wait and see -- this could be an early prototype. Also some strange screw holes in the headliner above the rear quarter windows. They don't have engine shots yet, and make no mention in the text about a complete space frame. One apparent inaccuracy would actually be a plus-- multipiece hubcaps (as opposed to the real one-piece stamped hubcaps), making them easier to paint. They talk about "Windows to open," which would refer to the door vent Windows only, though the main door Windows should pop out. Apparently, my autocorrect likes to capitalize Windows.
Matt Bacon Posted January 27, 2016 Author Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) There seems to be every likelihood that the Pocher model is the same as this:https://www.eaglemoss.com/de-de/modelle-modellbau/ihr-modellbausatz-mercedes-300sl/The partwork has been cancelled, so it may be that eaglemoss found a way to recoup some of their investment in model design and tooling, and Pocher got a steal on an almost ready to go kit of a classic car in their natural scale.You can have a closer look around the model on the link above. The seams you've spotted are there, but pretty unobtrusive. You can also see a proud builder with his chassis on the video!However, if this is what's happened, you can understand why the seams are there -- each part or small group of parts was intended to go with a magazine, in a store, so none of them can be too large. You certainly wouldn't be getting a one piece bodyshell with roof attached! Pocher may be able to adapt the tooling for a kit that ships in a box, or even assemble, fill and prime the relevant existing pieces into a one piece shell before packing it.EDIT: if you look here:www.007db5.com/pdf/2.2_ROOF.pdf`You can see what they did with the DB5, which also has a separate roof section.bestest,M. Edited January 27, 2016 by Matt Bacon
sjordan2 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 (edited) You nailed it – they're obviously the same kit. Your link fills in a lot of blanks, with all those images.Maybe Pocher will issue the other 1/8 subscription kits like the Aston and the Mustang. Edited January 27, 2016 by sjordan2
MrObsessive Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 It makes me wonder if Pocher will go the same route as Eaglemoss-----offer the kit as part of a subscription. Although, that would make the build achingly slow for those of us that want to keep steady at building this, and doesn't seem to be Pocher's "thing".Hey Skip, when you speak of the Mustang, are you talking about this? That's another one I've been dreaming about! If Pocher did offer this, it would be a first for them, as I don't believe they've ever had an American car in their lineup AFAIK.
sjordan2 Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 It makes me wonder if Pocher will go the same route as Eaglemoss-----offer the kit as part of a subscription. Although, that would make the build achingly slow for those of us that want to keep steady at building this, and doesn't seem to be Pocher's "thing".Hey Skip, when you speak of the Mustang, are you talking about this? That's another one I've been dreaming about! If Pocher did offer this, it would be a first for them, as I don't believe they've ever had an American car in their lineup AFAIK.ct and to buy existingIt looks to me like Pocher's plan is to ignore the subscription and to buy up existing 1/8 kits to sell in one box. Yes, your example is the deAgostini Shelby GT 500. I can't find who originally did the 1/8 007 Goldfinger Aston DB5 subscription kit, with all the movie bells and whistles.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 27, 2016 Posted January 27, 2016 EXCELLENT call, Matt. I was thinking it had a bit of a subscription "look" to it, and I may have been cued by the seams between the body work and the rear roll pan on the Kyosho/DeAgostini 1/8 Countach (check closely around the perimeter just below the rear fascia):. The SL also has a few exposed screw heads that I think Pocher would have worked harder to hide had they designed the kit, based on the Aventador, anyway. But yes, I'd expect a one-box deal and maybe Pocher-designed instruction booklet with this.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 ...Hey Skip, when you speak of the Mustang, are you talking about this? That's another one I've been dreaming about! If Pocher did offer this, it would be a first for them, as I don't believe they've ever had an American car in their lineup AFAIK.Well, I really hope there ain't any knob-blockery goin' on for the US market on that model, 'cause a build diary spontaneously appeared on the US forum:The Big 500
sjordan2 Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Well, I really hope there ain't any knob-blockery goin' on for the US market on that model, 'cause a build diary spontaneously appeared on the US forum:The Big 500?? I was just using the Shelby as an example of the sort of kit that Pocher might distribute. I don't really understand this comment.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 NOTHING DIRECTED AT YOU, Skip. What I meant was, now that the model has debuted with a build diary on the US ModelSpace site, I hope that's because there's a plan in place to sell it in the U S and NOT leave us all high and dry after the tease. It's cool. We're all just a bunch o' li'l Fonzies here. All reined in, so to speak.
Bugatti Fan Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 Wonder if they will do the same with the de agostini part work kits bond aston martin db5 and the mustang they are curently advertising
Chuck Kourouklis Posted January 28, 2016 Posted January 28, 2016 That hasn't been Pocher's m o so far and there's nothing in the product description to indicate they're going to go by installments. One U S dealer has started preorders on it as if it's a single contained unit.I suppose there's nothing to prohibit Pocher adopting the subscription model if they decided it was viable, though...
The Creative Explorer Posted January 29, 2016 Posted January 29, 2016 I am amazed by this news and hope it will be a real Pocher. I've been reading through this topic and the suggestion of it might be from Eaglemoss, but looking at the pictures and specific details, I think the Pocher is too different on keypoints. My guess is that they are not the same, but that is just my humble opinion.
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