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Alright folks, after a few long phone calls,  50+ emails and some perusing through stacks of magazines I've decided to make my first production kit. While the subject is somewhat esoteric (purposely, thank you Dr.Devil72), I figured with the resurgence of muscle cars being retro-styled for modern audiences it was time for a throwback to the days of car shows and weird designs. I now present to you the AMX GT Show Car.            The car, an AMC AMX GT which ran the car show circuit in 68 had many future design queues. The car in question, was built on a shortened Javelin chassis with a chopped and channeled AMX GT body and a Kammback rear end.                                                                                                                                                           I don't have much info outside of a handful of pictures (a driver's side three-quarter shot and a front view) which makes for a bit of "gizmology" fun and also allows me and my guest designer (a certain Dr.Devil72, sheesh with this guy...) a little artistic licensing with this kit. I started to make this a transkit but I soon realized the 68 Javelin kit has been off the market for quite some time now, plus with Dr.Devil72's help I soon came to the conclusion that this will be a full resin kit with all the bells and whistles, but affordable because it will be limited in production. That said,  we will produce 25 full kits and 25 bodies and after that it will be no-mas. I know 25 is a very small number,  but with two people doing all the work,  it's going to be actual work. Plus the simple fact that molds generally are only good for ten-fifteen castings (for technical pieces especially). So soon I will be posting pictures of the kit and giving tutorials on casting.      So there you have it,  a weird kit from two weirdos who want other weirdos to enjoy their weirdness. Speaking of,  the company's name is '2WEIRD-GUYS PRODUCTIONS'.

PS While it's only two guys running the company and doing the work,  these kits will be done with all the professionalism of Dragon or Tamiya. The instructions will be clear along with a instructional DVD for those trickier parts, a full and comprehensive etch set (with spare parts for those tricky and small carpet monster snacks), vacuum formed windshields, pre-cut pieces of Bare Metal foil, stencils for the paint, decals (for those not inclined to paint using stencils), pre-wired distributor (thanks to Dr.Devil72's amazing line of distributors and detail parts), vaccume and radiator hoses and last but not least, bubble free and easy to separate from the casting block, crisp cream colored resin.

Posted

As a AMC guy and retired resin kit producer.......best of luck.

The resin biz is a hard place to start. Add a unusual subject and yo have lots of work ahead.

 

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.......best of luck.

The resin biz is a hard place to start. Add a unusual subject and yo have lots of work ahead.

 

Yup! If the car pictured above is the subject matter, count me out. If it were a regular AMX, I am back in.

Posted

A chopped-top gremlin with an AMX nose? What's not to love? Seriously, I've always loved this thing. :D

Sho' is a lotta work for only 25 kits though. They'll need to sell for about $1000 each if you do decent work and expect to get paid what it's worth.

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Would be a very easy chop if you were to seam it at the door front.

With the new re-pop of the Gremlin that part is now easier....the AMX on the other hand.....!

Posted

I started a build of this many years ago and have it in primer right now. It's a fiarly easy build. I'm using the 66 Mustang chassis under mine (Shortened)....

Posted

A chopped-top gremlin with an AMX nose? What's not to love? Seriously, I've always loved this thing. :D

Sho' is a lotta work for only 25 kits though. They'll need to sell for about $1000 each if you do decent work and expect to get paid what it's worth.

$25,000!!  I think you could build a 1:1 clone for that much. 

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As a AMC guy and retired resin kit producer.......best of luck.

The resin biz is a hard place to start. Add a unusual subject and yo have lots of work ahead.

 

Not trying to necessarily make money as much as put something fun out there and recoup on it if possible. And indeed the resin market consists of convincing people to buy BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH they don't really need. But really Dr. and I just want to make some strange stuff for those handful of weirdos who like weird stuff. 

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$25,000!!  I think you could build a 1:1 clone for that much. 

Yeah, I suppose so, if you're willing to work for 5 bucks an hour or less and you get all your parts and materials for free. B)

Highly-skilled pattern work is worth at least $35 per hour to the employee doing it, well over $100 per hour to a company that employs him and pays benefits, works indoors in heat and AC, etc.

$25,000 represents 250 man-hours at $100 per, or about 6 and a quarter weeks of work for one person. Not at all out of line for high-quality work...assuming a highly detailed, multi-part kit with a lot of extras, windows, etc., and quoting the OP statement... " these kits will be done with all the professionalism of Dragon or Tamiya. The instructions will be clear along with a instructional DVD for those trickier parts, a full and comprehensive etch set (with spare parts for those tricky and small carpet monster snacks), vacuum formed windshields, pre-cut pieces of Bare Metal foil, stencils for the paint, decals (for those not inclined to paint using stencils), pre-wired distributor (thanks to Dr.Devil72's amazing line of distributors and detail parts), vaccume and radiator hoses and last but not least, bubble free and easy to separate from the casting block, crisp cream colored resin."

:D Best wishes, and I hope you guys can make it work for you. :D

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Going in with a realistic view is a great idea. I did the kits I wanted to do and offset the cost....but even at $2 an hour it was a losing proposition.  Love  of the hobby and subject has to be your pay. 

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I don't have much info outside of a handful of pictures (a driver's side three-quarter shot and a front view) which makes for a bit of "gizmology" fun and also allows me and my guest designer (a certain Dr.Devil72, sheesh with this guy...) a little artistic licensing with this kit.

No offense, but the above statement is a big reason I would not be interested in this model. I'd be more interested in Mr. Teague and company's original design, rather than Dr.Devil72 and your customized ideas. I'm sure there has to more information out there than the one 3/4 front view you have. If not on the web, I wound start digging though old magazines from the time period. Or books on AMC, and AMX history in particular. I know I've seen other shots of car.

The rest of your project as you describe it, sounds like a pipe dream to me. I wish you luck, and hope I'm wrong on that.

Posted

If the kit subject is indeed the car I posted a picture of it is not my cup of tea.  However based on the stated manufacturing details I would be very interested in knowing if you have/will produce any other kits. 

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FWIW, I did some digging around and came across this interesting thread about the car here. Also, there was a recent eBay listing showing a pic of the rear of the car. You can check that out here.

Posted

I'm doing this not to be some kind of jerk or anything. But, you guys have not done much research on your subject if you only have pictures of the front and side views of this car. Right after my post above, I did a Google search, typing in "amx gt show car." Guess what I found? Serveral photos, including those the rear of car. So there is no need to speculate on what the rest of the car looks like. There is also a guy on line working on building a full-size replic of the car.

Interesting car. You guys need to do more research. On the car itself, if nothing else.

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From what I've read about the car, it was truly a show car in the strictest sense! It had no running gear to speak of, just sat there on display and looked nice. A passing thought years ago I had to do this car, and now with the Gremlin kit out there in plentiful numbers, and I have a couple junk AMX bodies..................hmmmmm........... ;)

Nothing against the resin makers out there, but in my case with the way I build, resin can be impractical for me. Good luck to those out there that want to take a crack at this one. It is a VERY interesting car for sure, and makes you wonder how it might have fared on the market had AMC been daring enough to come out with it.

Posted

I think if one did do this car as a personal model build or as a resin offering I hope they realize the car has a lower roof line than a stock Javelin. Otherwise it will wind up looking like a pregnant Gremlin.

 

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I've found images and info through magazines and on line even through my NAMDRA newsletters on it but have not found a clear and concise shot of the rear end detail to show tail lights bumper etc. It always shows from an upper angle shooting down on the car... That's the main reason why my build stalled about 10 years ago....

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