Rob Hall Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Sorry Richard, I won't be buying any plastic forks from them. I already have one. Now if that was a plastic spoon I'd buy a case of them. now if they were plastic foons or sporks, I'd be interested...
57peppershaker Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 57 Chevy Pepper Shaker reissue is appealing I guess its the 2nd issue with decals n not the 1st issues parts included ? Look forward to seeing the box art.
Dave Van Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 57 Chevy Pepper Shaker reissue is appealing I guess its the 2nd issue with decals n not the 1st issues parts included ? Look forward to seeing the box art. I'd bet it's the vintage 57 in original art box....improved decals......that's been the standard method.
FordRodnKustom Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 57 Chevy Pepper Shaker reissue is appealing I guess its the 2nd issue with decals n not the 1st issues parts included ? Look forward to seeing the box art. I guessing that will be the case, without adding the old custom stuff. Either way it will be interesting to see what they do with it. 1st issue Pepper Shaker Second issue Pepper Shaker Edited July 22, 2017 by FordRodnKustom
Dave Van Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Put ALL the custom stuff back.....I'll buy a few of them.....otherwise I don't need one.
FordRodnKustom Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Put ALL the custom stuff back.....I'll buy a few of them.....otherwise I don't need one.Exactly. Agreed.
FordRodnKustom Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Just for historical reference here is the box art from the original 1st issue of the kit. It was called "Salt Shaker" then. Edited July 22, 2017 by FordRodnKustom
Rob Hall Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Apparently this is what the Pepper Shaker box art looked like, presumably the reissue will be similar given Round 2's retro release style. Edited February 8, 2018 by Rob Hall
Don Sikora II Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Apparently this is what the Pepper Shaker box art looked like, presumably the reissue will be similar given Round 2's retro release style. I'm really looking forward to Round 2 doing the Pepper Shaker. I hope the decals include the black hood stripes that were only in the original issue.
Ron Hamilton Posted July 22, 2017 Posted July 22, 2017 Apparently this is what the Pepper Shaker box art looked like, presumably the reissue will be similar given Round 2's retro release style. Just give me the box. I have enough '57 Chevy Kits to last two lifetimes.
stavanzer Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 My Guess is that the P/Shaker will feature the 'easy to fix' parts, but that most of the first issue custom parts are really gone. That said, this is a fairly iconic kit, so I suspect that it will wind up fairly nice.P.S. Hey Ron, I don't have enough '57 kits. Got any spare one (grin) LOL
martinfan5 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I've been at this for a while, and there are a few things Round 2 has released that I'm glad I got a second chance. Not everyone has a basement packed with several lifetimes worth of kits. The way some people are talking, Round 2, Revell and all those others should just shut their doors, because there's really o point in them making any more models. Maybe they can use all that injection moulding equipment for making plastic forks, or something. That said, those kits are going to be in the $40+ range by the time they hit the shelves here, and that much for a '70s vintage kit of a Gremlin? Sorry, not happening.You make a valid point, and I am not bothered by what Round2 is doing, it gives guys like me that were not alive when a lot of these kits were released a chance to get them and reasonable prices. I have to agree, the pricing still has me giving them the Forest Whitaker look
Dave Darby Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I thought the mold for the original '57 Chevy "Pepper Shaker" kit was supposed to be worn out? Are they redoing the newer kit with the old decals, or ?That's what John Greczula told me during correspondence we had regarding another another kit. Apparently they changed their mind. I'm certain 95 percent of the original stylizing parts are still in the tool, so other than the custom wheel covers they could simply open all the gates for a straight reissue of the 1st Pepper Shaker. That would get me excited enough to buy several.
Dave Darby Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 My Guess is that the P/Shaker will feature the 'easy to fix' parts, but that most of the first issue custom parts are really gone. That said, this is a fairly iconic kit, so I suspect that it will wind up fairly nice.P.S. Hey Ron, I don't have enough '57 kits. Got any spare one (grin) LOLThey didn't mess with the tool like they did with the 57 Ford. Everything should be there shy of the 4 hole Halibrand mags for the back and the custom wheel covers. Both easy enough to retool. This could be the best reissue of this kit in 47 years.
Dave Darby Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 See that blob of plastic on the upper right? Thats a short shot of the rear Stylizing extension to the 57 Chevy. See bottom left of second photo. If Round2 opens all the gates a bunch of people are gonna be real happy.
Fordboy1975 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I can't be the only person who is excited about the 1950 pickup being reissued, to me that means, I won't have to get one off eBay, and I can get one from my local Michael's, because they carry a lot of round 2 products.
ChrisBcritter Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 That would be something else if all the custom parts could be put back in - although the one-piece glass unit for the chopped top conversion would be a REAL surprise to see... Model Empire's sale last year had a bunch of the front and rear ends and I've been kicking myself for not grabbing a few.
KWT Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I can't be the only person who is excited about the 1950 pickup being reissued, to me that means, I won't have to get one off eBay, and I can get one from my local Michael's, because they carry a lot of round 2 products.You're not, dude. Dont worry... They are all happy with it coming, and all the rest of the kits too. They're all sounding tuff on the outside, but they're jumping around squealing like little girls on the inside... Lol
BobbyG Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) Everyone gripes about reissues that everyone already has. What is important to remember is there are newer younger builders that have never seen any of these kits so we're keeping new builders (something we REALLY need if our hobby is going to survive) so instead of complaining about how many of these you already have, point out the reasons you bought the original for the new guys that haven't seen one yet. Make the hobby sound like it's fun to see these again.Younger builders may not have any interest in these kits, they did not grow up with our cars and if anything, they would want newer vehicles, if they have interest at all in the hobby. For the prices of $30 or so, i'll spend my money on a highly detailed tool of a vehicle we haven't seen and most of us would want..like a Moebius kit. It's a ridiculous pricing strategy for same old kits, unless it's something we haven't seen since it's first run. So I guess we have the privilege of complaining especially when the prices of kits are so high and the values are not up to par in these releases. Edited July 23, 2017 by BobbyG
Luc Janssens Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) I can't be the only person who is excited about the 1950 pickup being reissued, to me that means, I won't have to get one off eBay, and I can get one from my local Michael's, because they carry a lot of round 2 products. Maybe many of us here on this forum already got this kit the first round. Sure, the tires will be better, same for the decals, so for those who didn't have the chance to pick one up before, a real tread. Me personally am hopeful that more presumed lost ('60s-'70s) tools will resurface in the coming years. But again the aforementioned more common reissues do have their place, not only for those who missed out, but for Round-2 too, so they can finance the restoration/cloning/improving process, of lesser cared for, forgotten designs, which in the past were, maybe rotting away in some cornfield in Iowa (that or maybe to finance the acquisition of another company ) Edited July 23, 2017 by Luc Janssens
Zoom Zoom Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Younger builders may not have any interest in these kits, they did not grow up with our cars and if anything, they would want newer vehicles, if they have interest at all in the hobby. Bob, miss you around here! Hope you come back and visit us for the show in November.This whole topic is interesting, since I'm into MX5's and formerly a "rotor-head" growing up w/a bunch of friends who enjoyed cheap, used rotary engine Mazdas in the late '70's to early '80's, so when I go to a local meetup I'm friends with and around more younger car enthusiasts than I see if I go to a traditional cruise night. A couple in particular remind me of this topic and how time flies; a kid showed up at our July "Miatas and Coffee" meetup in a '94 Miata (factory R package, no less). He's 16, it's his first car, it's 7 years older than he is (that's like me buying a 1953 car for my first car, which was actually a 2 year old 1976 car). Another friend was born in '95, he drives the all-original '93 FD RX-7 handed down/inherited from his grandfather. Teenagers today, if they have any interest at all in building models, will more than likely want stuff that was at least somewhat common as they were growing up...just like all of us. But we're talking cars from the '90's and 2000's now; they are now old cars. Not Gremlins, Pacers, Matadors, '57 Chevies or Datsun PU's. Those aren't just old, they're ancient history to anyone 30 and younger.I just built Revell's reissued 2 'n 1 RX7, finally available again with the "Cafe Racer" parts in the same box as the stock pieces. Their Miata kit gets reissued next month. The retail prices are quite a bit more palatable than Round2's. I'll bet in the eyes of today's youth that some of these Revell products are more interesting than all the "really antique" American cars that Round2 is regurgitating. Revell still has all those tuners that can be reissued from the same time period. Round2 is still laser-focused on selling people our age, not younger, the premium prices reflect that. AMT's new Camaro kit is spectacular, while Revell just spit out another kiddie-level 2018 Mustang...no detailed kit on any horizon. Maybe Round2 will help us out...at least they are doing some new tooling. I just got a Hasegawa BMW 2002 tii; with shipping from Japan it was about the same price as one of the Round2 reissues...I happily bought the all-new BMW kit for that sum; personally I remember "Pepper Shaker" '57 kits languishing on shelves for years. Less than zero interest for that thing.
MrObsessive Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Bob, to echo what you said, I've been going to a number of car shows since it's been warm. One thing I definitely notice are more and more '70's and '80's cars showing up. For example, I saw a very nice and clean '78 or '79 Ford Fairmont at one particular show. Now that car was as plain as all get out when it was new, and I wouldn't have thought twice about owning one. Yet, the car had a crowd around it, and they weren't all "old" folks either.As time goes on, we're going to see those '50's and '60's cars fade away, and you'll see the likes of '70's, '80's and yes the '90's cars become collectible and in the shows. I'm sure in the early '60's, people scoffed at the idea of '55-'57 Chevy's ever being worth more than they were then. Back in those days, they were just another car. Now look at the prices for them.............although I dare say the price for them has peaked. Let's face it-------as you said, the demographics of people who remember those cars that we're familiar with will change. Time marches on, and there will come a point someday that no one will know what a '57 Chevy, or a '69 Camaro looks like, save for the 'net.
Luc Janssens Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Bob, to echo what you said, I've been going to a number of car shows since it's been warm. One thing I definitely notice are more and more '70's and '80's cars showing up. For example, I saw a very nice and clean '78 or '79 Ford Fairmont at one particular show. Now that car was as plain as all get out when it was new, and I wouldn't have thought twice about owning one. Yet, the car had a crowd around it, and they weren't all "old" folks either.As time goes on, we're going to see those '50's and '60's cars fade away, and you'll see the likes of '70's, '80's and yes the '90's cars become collectible and in the shows. I'm sure in the early '60's, people scoffed at the idea of '55-'57 Chevy's ever being worth more than they were then. Back in those days, they were just another car. Now look at the prices for them.............although I dare say the price for them has peaked. Let's face it-------as you said, the demographics of people who remember those cars that we're familiar with will change. Time marches on, and there will come a point someday that no one will know what a '57 Chevy, or a '69 Camaro looks like, save for the 'net.I have to agree that the Fairmont was a clean design, but another car from the same period wich is growing on me, is the '78 Malibu 2dr.....would those fly?
MrObsessive Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 I have to agree that the Fairmont was a clean design, but another car from the same period wich is growing on me, is the '78 Malibu 2dr.....would those fly?Luc, that's another one of those cars that I consider collectible. Back when that was new, it was rather ho-hum compared to its 1973-77 "Colonnade" brethren. But here we are 40 years later, and when one shows up at a show, there will be people around it. It need not have a rompin', stompin' big block stuffed into it either. Plain Jane sixes can grab the same amount of attention.The fact that it is a car that's on the request list that I see from time to time, just shows there's interest in it.
Mike999 Posted July 23, 2017 Posted July 23, 2017 Hoping for : - 1965 El Camino It's not mentioned or shown on the box, but if you find one of these cheap and still sealed - the last AMT-ERTL reissue of the 1965 El Camino had the "Topper" camper and the drag parts. I've heard people ask that about sealed El Camino kits at kit swap meets etc. It's AMT-ERTL kit number 31741 and the box art looks like this:
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