ranma Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Force said: so they had either 4270 kits left in stock to be able to issue it three more years or they could do both the 4270 and the 4300 at the same time. More than likely as the 4270 wasn't that great of a selling kit 1977 was the turn over to the redesign of the 4300 with the square pan headlight surround. The Paystar 5000 was big seller as their was : the single Tractor, The logger, cement mixer and dump truck. While the F2575 was a one shot like the 4070 a , and the F 2674 was made as two kit's single truck and the dump truck copy. Apparently Ertl felt that the S-Series didn't meet their sell's projections, and there for never reissued. Note that the Transtar 4300 came in two copies as well that being the truck with the sleeper and a non sleeper racing truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty92 Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 The big rigs are nice, but I’d like to see the GMT400 trucks make a comeback. So far I have 8 in all body styles. They are one of my favorite kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 (edited) 34 minutes ago, ranma said: More than likely as the 4270 wasn't that great of a selling kit 1977 was the turn over to the redesign of the 4300 with the square pan headlight surround. The Paystar 5000 was big seller as their was : the single Tractor, The logger, cement mixer and dump truck. While the F2575 was a one shot like the 4070 a , and the F 2674 was made as two kit's single truck and the dump truck copy. Apparently Ertl felt that the S-Series didn't meet their sell's projections, and there for never reissued. Note that the Transtar 4300 came in two copies as well that being the truck with the sleeper and a non sleeper racing truck There are still a lot of differences between the 4270 and 4300, the engine, the rear suspension, the frame rails and the wheels are some differences. The IH V-800 and walking beam suspension was on most of the following kits as the 4300, the S-series and the Paystar 5000 series all have them. Edited June 8, 2019 by Force Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I have pulled out both the 4270(4200 and the 4300 , and placed them side by side. The frames are the same length and are quite Identical except for the engine , and rear Being they are different there. The 4300 has the updated walking beam as do the second Issue of the Transtar II , Paystar 5000, and S-series kit's. In 1:1 The all new Transtar series of conventional started in 1971, The cab design was also used on the Paystar series starting in 1973... The Transtar 4200-4370 cabs design remained untill 2000 when the cab got a new redesign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/3/2019 at 8:15 PM, Trendsetta68 said: I've always wished for this to be produced by any model company ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted June 13, 2019 Author Share Posted June 13, 2019 AMT 1168 -- 1/25 1995 GMC Sonoma Pickup Truck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Casey said: AMT 1168 -- 1/25 1995 GMC Sonoma Pickup Truck odd that they don't choose the S10 SS over the GMC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stavanzer Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 I'm glad to see the Sonoma, but like Luc, I would have chosen the S-10 as well. Good to see any of these kits though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafsprings Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Not privey to the sales numbers for Ertl International kits back in the 70's, but IMO, the market for these kits today is much stronger today than it was back then. True for AMT kits as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 International Harvester head quarter's has been In Chicago, But until just a few years ago The research/design part of Now Navistar was still in Ft.Wayne Indiana. Ft/Wayne Not only had the Truck factory, they also had Internationals Enginerring, Internationals Test track, R &d, as well as the Scout factory. My late Farther started working at Harvester in Ft.Wayne in 1962 till the plant was closed in 1983. He knew alot of guy's who worked in R&D as well as the engeinering Dpt. In fact that is how Ihe got my first 4070 a model. Through the Factory in Ft.Wayne, and he also got me the Transtar 4270 in 1977, along with a Transtar II , and Transtar 4300. That's how he found out about what was and wasn't selling well for the truck kit's. It seem's that Ft.Wayne's plant had no interest in the "Springfield Special " S-Series kit as Ft.Waynes plant was for heavy Duty trucks (IE) Transtar II, Transtar 4200-4370, Paystar 5000, and the 9600 series of cab overs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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