Oldcarfan27 Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) This one ends in almost 2 hours. I didn't know it was sooooo prized. Its not even built that well. I wonder how long ago it was built - considering both kits are rare. Round 2 needs to find the Open Road tool - Now I want one BAD! Edited January 4, 2019 by Oldcarfan27
greg133 Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Wow. I sold an SMP 1911 Chevrolet, which is supposed to be one of the rarer kits out there (missing a part or two) for less than that.
Lordmodelbuilder Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 I sold an Open Road unbuilt kit years ago for $150.00. I do have another & most parts from the one I built as a kid. I saw that Dodge on Ebay, but hadn't looked at it tonight. Crazy money!! I would be willing to let a resin caster use my parts if they wanted to make them in resin.
Mike999 Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 That guy's losing money! How about an original AMT Chevy Rescue Van for only US $4,749.05. That's just $228 for 24 months! With FREE SHIPPING! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbuilt-original-AMT-Chevy-Rescue-Van-1-25-scale-model-kit-T516-300-NEW-SEALED/233030838147?hash=item3641b86783:g:jKoAAOSwcnJcBJ2i:sc:USPSPriority!29672!US!-1
MrObsessive Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 25 minutes ago, Mike999 said: That guy's losing money! How about an original AMT Chevy Rescue Van for only US $4,749.05. That's just $228 for 24 months! With FREE SHIPPING! Yikes! I couldn't resist than to watch that auction just to see if someone would be CRAZY enough to pay that!
disabled modeler Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Sadly I have this one from my dad sold collection that was damaged and parts lost during our tornado in 2011. Mine needs all the raised roof parts and all interior/exterior camper parts plus side window glass before I can restore it....I love this thing..!
Dave Van Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Mike999 said: That guy's losing money! How about an original AMT Chevy Rescue Van for only US $4,749.05. That's just $228 for 24 months! With FREE SHIPPING! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbuilt-original-AMT-Chevy-Rescue-Van-1-25-scale-model-kit-T516-300-NEW-SEALED/233030838147?hash=item3641b86783:g:jKoAAOSwcnJcBJ2i:sc:USPSPriority!29672!US!-1 Ah.....free ebay listings....... In the old days when you had to pay to list things, a percentage of listing price, you never gad that. The winner of the Dodge was new to ebay....bet it gets relisted because of no pay.
Force Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mike999 said: That guy's losing money! How about an original AMT Chevy Rescue Van for only US $4,749.05. That's just $228 for 24 months! With FREE SHIPPING! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbuilt-original-AMT-Chevy-Rescue-Van-1-25-scale-model-kit-T516-300-NEW-SEALED/233030838147?hash=item3641b86783:g:jKoAAOSwcnJcBJ2i:sc:USPSPriority!29672!US!-1 What planet is this guy living on, you get a decent real Chevy Van for that kind of money. I looked at this sellers other stuff listed, mostly clothes, shoes and some games and these models. $81 for a current reissued model kit.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Model-Plastic-Kit-1965-Ford-Galaxie-500XL-Stock-Car-Racing-Version/232944933177?hash=item363c999939:g:a-4AAOSwZl1brpQ2 $62 for another recent reissue.https://www.ebay.com/itm/MPC-WORLD-WAR-II-MILITARY-JEEP-1-25-SCALE-MODEL-KIT/232944956783?hash=item363c99f56f:g:t9YAAOSwo7ZbrpoO And $60 for a Tamiya F1 1:20 kit from 2007.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tamiya-1-20-scale-limited-series-McLaren-Mercedes-MP4-13-Model-Car-89718-F-S/232944953546?hash=item363c99e8ca:g:YXkAAOSweTlbrph8 The asking price for them are steep enough, but the van was exceptional. 16 hours ago, MrObsessive said: Yikes! I couldn't resist than to watch that auction just to see if someone would be CRAZY enough to pay that! I don't think any one is stupid enough to pay that for a model kit. Edited January 4, 2019 by Force
slusher Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 On January 3, 2019 at 11:56 PM, Mike999 said: That guy's losing money! How about an original AMT Chevy Rescue Van for only US $4,749.05. That's just $228 for 24 months! With FREE SHIPPING! https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbuilt-original-AMT-Chevy-Rescue-Van-1-25-scale-model-kit-T516-300-NEW-SEALED/233030838147?hash=item3641b86783:g:jKoAAOSwcnJcBJ2i:sc:USPSPriority!29672!US!-1 Is there any difference between the original and the reissue, just curious?
disabled modeler Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, slusher said: Is there any difference between the original and the reissue, just curious? Carl buddy.... Lots of differences.... the original one(Chevy Mini Motorhome Open Road camper van) not a Dodge van has opening hood...camper version parts...window van side glass body side inserts. Im hoping to find replacement parts to my dads old one so I can build it as the camper version which it was....during the tornado here in 2011 parts got lost to it and many others he had where damaged,etc, or just gone. I have to try to save/restore what is left of them. I also need to find parts for his old early 70s Dodge cargo van and window van build ups now. Edited January 5, 2019 by disabled modeler
Mike999 Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 7 hours ago, slusher said: Is there any difference between the original and the reissue, just curious? As Mark said, quite a few big differences. The biggest one being the solid side panels, which are molded in place on the new kit. The original kit had optional parts for a window van. Here's an old thread that discusses the differences:
Rob Hall Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mike999 said: As Mark said, quite a few big differences. The biggest one being the solid side panels, which are molded in place on the new kit. The original kit had optional parts for a window van. Never seen one of the original Chevy vans, but the way they did the side windows with panel inserts seems cheesy. Never seen one built up, would assume there would be seams to be filled? Edited January 5, 2019 by Rob Hall
GLMFAA1 Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 The original AMT van body had a removal recess in the roof and the sides had optional side pieces for windows or sheet metal sides. What was nice it made a curb side option of having windows on the right side. easy to make ambulances The goofy part were the headlights greg
Mike999 Posted January 5, 2019 Posted January 5, 2019 34 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: Never seen one of the original Chevy vans, but the way they did the side windows with panel inserts seems cheesy. Never seen one built up, would assume there would be seams to be filled? I tangled with an Open Road camper at a young age. As I remember, the panel inserts fit pretty good, as Greg's photos above seem to bear out. The big problem was cutting out the roof panel for the camper. Which I tried to do with a dull utility knife (box-cutter). Epic Fail! Between the open side panels, the hood cut-out and removing most of the roof, the body cracks and breaks very easily. There's just not much plastic left holding it together. Couple of years ago, I found an Open Road Camper at a local flea market for $5. It was completely unbuilt and complete, except for one side curtain. Somebody tried to paint the body with some kind of weird epoxy-based paint, which so far has not come off with all the usual solvents. I may sacrifice an original Rescue Van to get a clean body, I have a couple of those in the stash. And this time I won't use a box-cutter...
Oldcarfan27 Posted January 5, 2019 Author Posted January 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike999 said: Couple of years ago, I found an Open Road Camper at a local flea market for $5. It was completely unbuilt and complete, except for one side curtain. Some guys have all the luck!
disabled modeler Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 19 hours ago, Oldcarfan27 said: Some guys have all the luck! Yeah no kidding..! id be happy to find a parts kit or build up for that...LOL.. Mine has the hole cut out already my dad started the kit but never got around to finishing it then being there was loose parts in the box the tornado tossed into my back yard with others parts got lost to them and they suffered damage as well...
Force Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) On 2019-01-04 at 11:37 PM, Force said: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Unbuilt-original-AMT-Chevy-Rescue-Van-1-25-scale-model-kit-T516-300-NEW-SEALED/233030838147?hash=item3641b86783:g:jKoAAOSwcnJcBJ2i:sc:USPSPriority!29672!US!-1 What planet is this guy living on, you get a decent real Chevy Van for that kind of money. I looked at this sellers other stuff listed, mostly clothes, shoes and some games and these models. $81 for a current reissued model kit.https://www.ebay.com/itm/Car-Model-Plastic-Kit-1965-Ford-Galaxie-500XL-Stock-Car-Racing-Version/232944933177?hash=item363c999939:g:a-4AAOSwZl1brpQ2 $62 for another recent reissue.https://www.ebay.com/itm/MPC-WORLD-WAR-II-MILITARY-JEEP-1-25-SCALE-MODEL-KIT/232944956783?hash=item363c99f56f:g:t9YAAOSwo7ZbrpoO The asking price for them are steep enough, but the van was exceptional. I don't think any one is stupid enough to pay that for a model kit. The seller has reduced the prices 10% for these but I doubt they will be sold even now...the seller has to come back to earth before that will happen, especially on the Van. Edited January 13, 2019 by Force
disabled modeler Posted January 13, 2019 Posted January 13, 2019 Id love to be able to get my Open Road Mini Motorhome van restored and get a hold of others or parts to them so I can...I love vans and campers and we owned a few in my family....one just like the Chevy camper van....73 Dodge cargo van...75 Dodge factory custom van...72? Dodge window van...74 Chevy window van....74 Dodge van cab and chassis motorhome. I think they would be a blast to build and great for the memories too.
FredRPG Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Those asking prices are ridiculous. I have an original issue police van and open road in boxes and two other open road complete partial builds, the highest I paid was $65. Same for early Dodge window vans, one in box and two started with most of the parts, not one over $50. You just have to be patient and wait for one to pop up. What bugs me is other sellers are going to see this $250 price and think that's how much they are really worth. Hard to believe a builder would pay the price and not just wait for a better deal, I suspect some of the high dollar sales are folks thinking they can resell for more, or worse part them out like **toys for $25 a bumper.
89AKurt Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Dang, that is insane! I had another version of the Chevy van last century, that I whacked apart to create something else. Is this more special because of the top and interior? I've noticed that some asking prices for kits are ridiculous. For example the Gunze Sangyo VW Beetle seems to be gold-plated. What one pays is another story.
disabled modeler Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 8 hours ago, FredRPG said: Those asking prices are ridiculous. I have an original issue police van and open road in boxes and two other open road complete partial builds, the highest I paid was $65. Same for early Dodge window vans, one in box and two started with most of the parts, not one over $50. You just have to be patient and wait for one to pop up. What bugs me is other sellers are going to see this $250 price and think that's how much they are really worth. Hard to believe a builder would pay the price and not just wait for a better deal, I suspect some of the high dollar sales are folks thinking they can resell for more, or worse part them out like **toys for $25 a bumper. Fred.... I hear you there. me being a builder and collector and not being able to pay those prices has kept me from restoring the ones I do have. My plan IF it ever comes to light is to build mine as ones the family had owned but some of them Ill need to find yet and on my budget it might as well be impossible...??? early 70s Dodge window van...and cargo van. 75 Dodge factory custom van 72 Chevy window van 72? Chevy mini motorhome van 70 Ford cargo van 74? Dodge van cab and chassis motorhome
Mike999 Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 10 hours ago, FredRPG said: ...What bugs me is other sellers are going to see this $250 price and think that's how much they are really worth. One of my favorite dead horses to flog! Yep, what you said seems to be exactly what happens. Sellers take a quick look at eBay, see somebody asking a ridiculous price and think "Ka-CHING!" They don't bother to look at "Completed Items" to see what these kits really sell for. This mostly seems to happen with people who don't know anything about scale models; the wanna-be American Pickers and the general Ye Olde Anteek & Junque dealers. As somebody else said, I like to look at their other eBay listings and see what else they're selling. I see "eBay Fever" all the time at a big local flea market. I ask the price of a common kit on a table, get quoted something ridiculous, always followed by: "It sells for more than that on eBay!" No, people are ASKING more than that on eBay. But not getting it. Another sales pitch is: "Model cars sell for $30 now at Hobby Lobby!" Yes, but they have a 40% off coupon. So unless you want to knock 40% off that old AMT-ERTL kit in the water-logged checkerboard Wal-Mart box, no deal. These guys really go crazy when they find a promo, because they know from eBay that promos are a solid-gold investment opportunity. Doesn't matter that their promo is warped like a banana, filthy with ground-in dirt, has opaque glass, is missing one bumper and the other is broken in half. They still ask $75, because "that's what they go for on eBay."
Force Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 The seller can ask for what they want but an item is not worth more than what people are prepaired to pay for it, that's the real value...and just because it's rare doesn't automatically mean they fetch a high price.
stitchdup Posted January 14, 2019 Posted January 14, 2019 Not sure if this is the right thread, but there's a revell 29 roadster kit on one of the large online stores for $423 just now. Made me smile since I just got one for less than 5% of that price since the bags were open and some parts removed from the sprues. Been through it and cant see any of it missing except 2 light lenses
FredRPG Posted January 15, 2019 Posted January 15, 2019 Learning a decent 3-d program is something I need to star looking into. I use Illustrator and Photoshop everyday and some basic 3-d programs occasionally, so the learning curve shouldn't be too bad. Point is, one of the first projects I want to tackle is the open road camper top, seems like a lot of people would like one.
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