Looking for Diesel engine for a GTX???

[2zwudz]

Anyone know where I can find a model Cummings Diesel engine to fit properly into a Revell 1971 Plymouth GTX?

[LL3 Model Worx]

Probably gonna have to look someplace like shapeways.... I know of a few different 1/25 Cummins variants on there.

Here is one but its pricey

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[Fat Brian]

3 hours ago, 2zwudz said:

Anyone know where I can find a model Cummings Diesel engine to fit properly into a Revell 1971 Plymouth GTX?

Trailer Trash Kustomz does a 5.9 Cummins and its 4bt little brother.

[Force]

Eehh...why would anyone want to put a "crude oil" (diesel) engine in a muscle car...what's wrong with a V8?

[Foxer]

Maybe a new 2 liter turbo that probably has more horsepower and always starts! 

[Oldschool4x4]

2 hours ago, Force said:

Eehh...why would anyone want to put a "crude oil" (diesel) engine in a muscle car...what's wrong with a V8?

To be different. Isn't that what building a hot rod is all about?

[MeatMan]

9 minutes ago, Oldschool4x4 said:

To be different. Isn't that what building a hot rod is all about?

I agree. Why do what everyone else does?

[Rodent]

Think of it this way: The extra ~500 lbs on the front wheels wouldn't make it handle too much worse than a big-block B-body already handles (or stops).

An ex coworker was doing this swap in 1:1 with a 70 Belvedere. Not sure if he ever finished it or not.

[Force]

On 12/14/2019 at 2:04 PM, Oldschool4x4 said:

To be different. Isn't that what building a hot rod is all about?

Yes it's different allright, but not anything I would do in a real car, especially if it's a muscle or classic car, it will totally take away the value.

19 hours ago, Rodent said:

Think of it this way: The extra ~500 lbs on the front wheels wouldn't make it handle too much worse than a big-block B-body already handles (or stops).

An ex coworker was doing this swap in 1:1 with a 70 Belvedere. Not sure if he ever finished it or not.

It will for sure not handle any better as most diesels suited for this application are heavier than a Hemi, you most likely have to change everything in the suspension and drive train to beef it up for the increased weight and torque, and beef up the front suspension on a Mopar B-body is not that easy with the torsion bars.
In my mind diesels belongs in heavy pickups, trucks, tractors and other heavy equipment.

But this is modelbuilding and of course every one is intitled to do what they want with their models.

Edited December 15, 2019 by Force

[Oldschool4x4]

Always liked this one; runs 11's

 

 

Edited December 15, 2019 by Oldschool4x4

[Force]

That's for sure politically correct in the environment debate we have right now...not. 

Edited December 15, 2019 by Force

[SfanGoch]

Diesel engines actually emit less carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases than gas engines. The black smoke in the video is a result of an imbalance in the air-fuel ratio - too much fuel to not enough air. That means too much fuel is added or there's not enough oxygen supplied to burn the fuel.

[OldNYJim]

10 hours ago, Oldschool4x4 said:

Always liked this one; runs 11's

 

 

Shoulda called it the Coal-vette ☁️☁️☁️

[DRIPTROIT 71]

moluminum.com offers an excellent 6bt and 4bt Cummins. Both will probably require modifying the engine compartment to make them fit.

[Force]

11 hours ago, SfanGoch said:

Diesel engines actually emit less carbon dioxide and greenhouse gases than gas engines. The black smoke in the video is a result of an imbalance in the air-fuel ratio - too much fuel to not enough air. That means too much fuel is added or there's not enough oxygen supplied to burn the fuel.

Well both engine types pollute in different ways, I can't tell wich is better or worse.

Edited December 16, 2019 by Force

[carsntrucks4you]

Down load a 3 D model of a Cummins 5.9l at Grabcad and print it at Shapeways or imaterilize. or pront it it at your own 3d printer as I did. Pictures tomorrow

Edited December 16, 2019 by carsntrucks4you

[SfanGoch]

8 hours ago, Force said:

Well both engine types pollute in different ways, I can't tell wich is better or worse.

Either one is better than a rubber band powered motor or foot powered a la Fred Flinstone.

[Jantrix]

On 12/13/2019 at 7:41 AM, 2zwudz said:

Anyone know where I can find a model Cummings Diesel engine to fit properly into a Revell 1971 Plymouth GTX?

 

10 hours ago, DRIPTROIT 71 said:

moluminum.com offers an excellent 6bt and 4bt Cummins. Both will probably require modifying the engine compartment to make them fit.

Fit properly. This is gonna be your problem. I wish engine swaps were that easy.

As for the moluminum units, they do look good. I was going to get one for a current project, but I couldn't get my head around paying $30 for an engine.

[Fat Brian]

The 4bt will be an easier swap for sure, the 5.9 is significantly longer than a v8. One thing in his favor though is the kit is 1/24th scale so theres a bit more room to play with.

[misterNNL]

A handy companion subject to this would be some information on how to plum these diesel engines. Modern gas engines are complicated enough but I am totally in the dark on diesels. They seem to have a lot of hard plumbing that is painted the same color as the rest of the engine.detailed photos with descriptions of what we're looking at would be outstanding.

Edited December 16, 2019 by misterNNL
Kindle thinks it knows what I need to say

[carsntrucks4you]

This is my 3D printed Cummins 5.9 l