Low profile tires and big wheels, Like or dislike?

[StevenGuthmiller]

39 minutes ago, Daddyfink said:

But to compare what you posted to what I posted is like comparing rocks to feathers, not the same.

I will concede that point.

 

The examples that I posted were no doubt extreme.

They were just designed to illustrate that in the end, it's all about personal tastes.

It's just what we, as individuals find personally appealing.

None of us are right, or wrong.

 

My main reason for posting a response for your original post was primarily in response to your "get off of my lawn crowd" statement.

I don't believe that because an individual respects the history and purity of the original vehicle, it makes us automotive neanderthals.

We just feel that for the most part, the manufacturers did a pretty good job getting it right the first time.

 

I suppose that you could call us purists.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

Edited October 7, 2020 by StevenGuthmiller

[keyser]

10 hours ago, Daddyfink said:

Yeah, I'm not

 

Get off my lawn ya snowflaky rock throw in’ teenyboppers. Go drown in a pothole 

Mobility scooters at most have 8-10” wheels so all’s good. 

Buncha fun Mustangs in some of these posts. Doubt Hoosier or Pilots come in 345/20x14’s. ?

[1972coronet]

99% of the time , rubber band tyres and gigantic wheels on an older vehicle make them look like a Happy Meal toy .

Wide white wall tyres , only on .c1982 & earlier .

80's , ad seq. , monochromatic is also gross .

[StevenGuthmiller]

2 hours ago, 1972coronet said:

99% of the time , rubber band tyres and gigantic wheels on an older vehicle make them look like a Happy Meal toy .

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

[BlackSheep214]

Different strokes for different folks....

Here's the thing... ricers think they made imports cool again by adding all that aftermarket BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH,.lowering their ride and the exhaust sounds like $#&*%. Oh let's not forget they donk their tires. Why? 

Where I'm from, potholes gotta be murder on them. I cant count how many times I see them gunning and roaring off at a stop light towards a rough patch of road. You suffering see their tail lights light up one a Christmas tree braking until it's too late. Yup... sparks and pieces of plastic body parts go crack in the process. I drive by shaking my head at the stupidity.

Edited October 8, 2020 by BlackSheep214

[Mr. Metallic]

So, after all of this, what is the actual point of a thread like this?

I don't like this thing, who else doesn't like this thing?

How does a thread like this enrich the community? Sure, it sparks debate (obviously). But all it really does is ...

1-reinforce the opinions of people who agree with the opinion

2- identify those who are opposed to said opinion

and most importantly, though usually not the intent of the person who starts a thread like this...

3- alienates people who happen to not agree with said opinion. It's not about everyone liking the same thing or that nobody can have a difference of opinion. What it is about is developing an air of exclusivity on what is supposed to be a general interest automotive model forum. If it is a niche forum or board where it's clearly defined that only certain types of models are discussed, then sure, exclude away. Because those parameters are set. But for a general interest board for a hobby that is struggling on it's own to be inclusive of younger/new members to completely dismiss what many of them are into is just shooting ourselves in the foot. How do you think a lurker, or incoming person would feel if they can see that what they are interested in is looked down upon. Even if it is by a vocal minority, someone coming in doesn't see that. All they see is the negativity. 

Opinions, everyone has one, and is entitled to one. But I just fail to see the purpose of a thread like this. 

And jamesG, this is not directed at you. it's just my take on this type of thread as a whole that has been present since message boards and forums became a thing 20+ years ago.

+flame suit on+

[Plowboy]

I like the larger diameter wheels. Especially 18-19s. I'll go up to 23's on the rear. But, no bigger. The stance also has to be right. Larger wheels on stock suspension just doesn't look right.

Something I don't like is steel wheels and hubcaps on muscle and pony cars. Especially higher end cars. The only exception is, of course, the COPO's. Anything else just makes the car look cheap. Hemi cars, Super Sports, etc. didn't come with hubcaps.

[bobthehobbyguy]

I agree 100 percent. Threads like these have the potential for creating ill will.  Don't see the value of picking apart the choices have made for their vehicle. 

[Plowboy]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Metallic said:

So, after all of this, what is the actual point of a thread like this?

I don't like this thing, who else doesn't like this thing?

How does a thread like this enrich the community? Sure, it sparks debate (obviously). But all it really does is ...

1-reinforce the opinions of people who agree with the opinion

2- identify those who are opposed to said opinion

and most importantly, though usually not the intent of the person who starts a thread like this...

3- alienates people who happen to not agree with said opinion. It's not about everyone liking the same thing or that nobody can have a difference of opinion. What it is about is developing an air of exclusivity on what is supposed to be a general interest automotive model forum. If it is a niche forum or board where it's clearly defined that only certain types of models are discussed, then sure, exclude away. Because those parameters are set. But for a general interest board for a hobby that is struggling on it's own to be inclusive of younger/new members to completely dismiss what many of them are into is just shooting ourselves in the foot. How do you think a lurker, or incoming person would feel if they can see that what they are interested in is looked down upon. Even if it is by a vocal minority, someone coming in doesn't see that. All they see is the negativity. 

Opinions, everyone has one, and is entitled to one. But I just fail to see the purpose of a thread like this. 

And jamesG, this is not directed at you. it's just my take on this type of thread as a whole that has been present since message boards and forums became a thing 20+ years ago.

+flame suit on+

Best post yet!! It's no wonder there's no youth in the hobby anymore! The curmudgeons have driven them away!

[bobthehobbyguy]

Very true. Especially when whether intentionally or unintentionally those voicing there opinions sound like only what they like is the way to do something and ridicule others for not doing things the way they think they should be done. How a car appears or how practical it is are choices of those who are spending the money.

[SfanGoch]

47 minutes ago, Plowboy said:

Best post yet!! It's no wonder there's no youth in the hobby anymore! The curmudgeons have driven them away!

That is a myopic point of view. The "hobby" encompasses much more than just model cars. There are plenty of youths involved in the hobby in general, just not in the model car segment in particular. Lack of variety is why they choose other categories of modeling. This particular niche of the hobby, judging by the average age of the membership here and other model car fora, is the refuge for those curmudgeons. Maybe you enjoy building the same few dozen or so cars ad nauseam; there are modelers who prefer the hundreds of different aircraft, armor, sci-fi or ship kits available. Car modelers wet their pants at the mere announcement of models old enough to qualify for AARP membership and that is enough to make them happy. Cool, whatever floats your boat. The younger generation is much more sophisticated in their tastes and expectations as to what they want in a model. Unfortunately, car models don't seem to cut the mustard, big wheels and skinny rubber notwithstanding.

[StevenGuthmiller]

I don't see any issue with the OP asking us of our opinions on this or any other subject.

If he's truly curious about what other members of the forum think, ask away.

What the rest of us do with it from there is up to us.

 

If a member feels like it's a ridiculous or irrelevant question, it "should" be a very simple decision to just not participate.

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

Edited October 8, 2020 by StevenGuthmiller

[SfanGoch]

Why do you have to make sense, Steve?

[Plowboy]

22 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said:

I don't see any issue with the OP asking us of our opinions on this or any other subject.

If he's truly curious about what other members of the forum think, ask away.

What the rest of us do with it from there is up to us.

 

If a member feels like it's a ridiculous or irrelevant question, it "should" be a very simple decision to just not participate.

 

 

 

 

 

Steve

True. But, it's the clown wheel, happy meal toy etc. comments that are unwarranted. If I stated that I hated factory stock and thought they looked like absolute garbage with their goofy wheel covers and truck tires, you and others that like factory stock would be offended. There's a lot of things I don't like. But, I choose to focus on what I do like. 

[SfanGoch]

Who cares what adjectives are used as descriptors? It's not like we're having a Victorian-era tea parlor discussion about women's ankles. As alleged adults, we should be able to handle the use of creative language to describe something without being over-sensitive. None of the terms/expressions used were in any way disparagingly directed at a human and I'm sure that steel wheels, rims and tires couldn't care less.

[bobthehobbyguy]

29 minutes ago, Plowboy said:

True. But, it's the clown wheel, happy meal toy etc. comments that are unwarranted. If I stated that I hated factory stock and thought they looked like absolute garbage with their goofy wheel covers and truck tires, you and others that like factory stock would be offended. There's a lot of things I don't like. But, I choose to focus on what I do like. 

I totally agree. If you don't like a look fine. Snide comments serve no purpose than to alienate those who do like a look.

Edited October 8, 2020 by bobthehobbyguy

[BlackSheep214]

Let's all agree to disagree. Theres no way anyone is going to force another to change their mind on what's right or wrong, what looks stupid or cool, or whatever. Everyone has their own taste of what looks cool.

[Mr. Metallic]

50 minutes ago, bobthehobbyguy said:

I totally agree. If you don't like a look fine. Snide comments serve no purpose than to alienate those who do like a look.

Exactly my point. And the fact that people will continue to miss that point or deflect it into a different meaning is why I knew while I was typing it that it was a pointless endeavor. But I posted it anyway because I am just expressing MY opinion too. 

[StevenGuthmiller]

1 hour ago, Plowboy said:

True. But, it's the clown wheel, happy meal toy etc. comments that are unwarranted. If I stated that I hated factory stock and thought they looked like absolute garbage with their goofy wheel covers and truck tires, you and others that like factory stock would be offended. There's a lot of things I don't like. But, I choose to focus on what I do like. 

 

56 minutes ago, bobthehobbyguy said:

I totally agree. If you don't like a look fine. Snide comments serve no purpose than to alienate those who do like a look.

The remarks have already gone both ways if you care to pay attention.

Comments have been made equating those of us who are factory stock or vintage aftermarket admirers as geriatric fossils who ride around on mobility scooters and chase kids off of our lawns.

We can either be offended by that, or put on our big boy pants and roll with the punches.

It's all in good fun in my opinion.

 

As long as we refrain from personal attacks, I see no harm in a playful discussion.

 

 

 

Steve

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by StevenGuthmiller

[Snake45]

Steve, I'm amazed that you're still posting in this discussion, four pages in. 

I think we all know where you are on the topic. In fact, I think EVERYBODY knows where EVERYBODY is on this topic by now. 

Hey, think it'll rain tomorrow? (Just tryin' to change the subject....) 

[tbill]

How does one chase kids off the lawn in a mobility scooter? ( asking for a friend)?

[Rodent]

3 minutes ago, tbill said:

How does one chase kids off the lawn in a mobility scooter? ( asking for a friend)?

It needs to have clown car wheels and rubber-band tires. Then you can do it.

[Snake45]

4 minutes ago, tbill said:

How does one chase kids off the lawn in a mobility scooter? ( asking for a friend)?

A Wrist Rocket and 1/2" ball bearings works for a friend of mine. 

Edited October 8, 2020 by Snake45

[SfanGoch]

7 minutes ago, Rodent said:

It needs to have clown car wheels and rubber-band tires. Then you can do it.

[StevenGuthmiller]

11 minutes ago, Snake45 said:

Steve, I'm amazed that you're still posting in this discussion, four pages in. 

I think we all know where you are on the topic. In fact, I think EVERYBODY knows where EVERYBODY is on this topic by now. 

I think that everybody already knew that there was going to be disagreement on this topic before anybody ever posted anything, and I'm pretty certain that a good majority of us knew who would lean which way and who the other.

I've just been having a good time reading and discussing the question at hand, but apparently it's a bad subject to discuss.

It appears that maybe we should have some sort of sensitivity board deciding which subjects are allowed to be considered for deliberation?

 

Who wants to be on the board?

 

 

 

Steve