Another 29 Roadster Question

[Calb56]

To use a 32 grill with this, what amount of "chop" would be necessary if you didn't want to just lower the grill up front? I know Model Car Garage has both 4" and 6" available. 

Thanks

Charles 

[Jon Haigwood]

Replicas and Miniatures has a 2" chopped 32 Grille Shell with photoetched Grille ,it may also come with the radiator  

[JollySipper]

Seems like it would depend on whether you're building it channeled or a hi-boy.......

[Calb56]

9 minutes ago, Jon Haigwood said:

Replicas and Miniatures has a 2" chopped 32 Grille Shell with photoetched Grille ,it may also come with the radiator  

 

Just now, JollySipper said:

Seems like it would depend on whether you're building it channeled or a hi-boy.......

Hi-boy, I thought I saw a 2" chopped grill, I'm working on an order for RMoM, guess it's getting bigger now.

[Ace-Garageguy]

47 minutes ago, JollySipper said:

Seems like it would depend on whether you're building it channeled or a hi-boy.......

Exactly. Every car is a little different when it comes to what looks right.

There's no formula. It's personal judgement as far as what "good proportion and line" dictates, and that's why some cars look dorky and unbalanced and some are sleek and attractive.

Edited September 29, 2022 by Ace-Garageguy
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[Calb56]

Doing a lil more research, a 29 Ford grill shell is either 27.5" or 29" in height and a 32 Ford grill shell is 32" in height. So anywhere from the 2" chop to 6" chop would work depending on how I place the grill.

Never an easy answer.

 

[Richard Bartrop]

The 4 inch chop seems to work nicely on the channeled version.

[Ace-Garageguy]

1 minute ago, Calb56 said:

...So anywhere from the 2" chop to 6" chop would work depending on how I place the grill.

Never an easy answer.

Yup.

And if you're building a real car, there's also the size of the radiator you can squeeze in whatever grille shell you want for aesthetic reasons...and that illustrates the reason why the best cars are the product of rather a lot of careful consideration of a wide variety of interrelated factors.

[Calb56]

16 minutes ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

Yup.

And if you're building a real car, there's also the size of the radiator you can squeeze in whatever grille shell you want for aesthetic reasons...and that illustrates the reason why the best cars are the product of rather a lot of careful consideration of a wide variety of interrelated factors.

Exactly what I'm attempting to do, just in a scale that I can afford.  I know it's "just" plastic and therefore it's "close enough for rock 'n' roll" but I am somewhat ADD and though I can't justify counting every single bolt, I so want my builds to be realistic as if they were 1:1... whether I'm looking at another Era or if I'm just doing a contemporary Traditional build.

That's just me. Crazy as my wife will tell you.

Charles 

[oldscool]

I have always felt that it doesn't look right if the top of the grille shell is higher than the top of the cowl.

[Jon Haigwood]

I like to have the Grille shell positioned so if you had a hood it wood be level from front to back

[tim boyd]

21 minutes ago, oldscool said:

I have always felt that it doesn't look right if the top of the grille shell is higher than the top of the cowl.

Correct in this house, and among many (probably nearly all) 1/1 rod builders as well....tB

[tim boyd]

13 minutes ago, Jon Haigwood said:

I like to have the Grille shell positioned so if you had a hood it wood be level from front to back

Also correct..TB 

[Calb56]

24 minutes ago, tim boyd said:

Also correct..TB 

Exactly why I was wondering about the correct chop. Seems like 4" might work best.

[tim boyd]

3 hours ago, Calb56 said:

Exactly why I was wondering about the correct chop. Seems like 4" might work best.

I recall using the Model Car Garage chopped Deuce Grill on this model based on this heavily kitbashed Revell '29A Roadster....hope that helps....TB 

[Kit Karson]

17 hours ago, Calb56 said:

Exactly what I'm attempting to do, just in a scale that I can afford.  I know it's "just" plastic and therefore it's "close enough for rock 'n' roll" but I am somewhat ADD and though I can't justify counting every single bolt, I so want my builds to be realistic as if they were 1:1... whether I'm looking at another Era or if I'm just doing a contemporary Traditional build.

That's just me. Crazy as my wife will tell you.

Charles 

Charles,

The angel of the cowl as it slops toward the hood can play a part in the height of the radiator shell, too. It's like Goldilocks and the three beds:

Too high!

A little better...

... maybe a little low?

...and just right! -KK

[Calb56]

5 minutes ago, Kit Karson said:

Charles,

The angel of the cowl as it slops toward the hood can play a part in the height of the radiator shell, too. It's like Goldilocks and the three beds:

Too high!

A little better...

... maybe a little low?

...and just right! -KK

Exactly, no easy answer. I do love that, with the track nose, great job making the hood...

[tim boyd]

10 minutes ago, Kit Karson said:

Charles,

The angel of the cowl as it slops toward the hood can play a part in the height of the radiator shell, too. It's like Goldilocks and the three beds:

Too high!

A little better...

... maybe a little low?

...and just right! -KK

Sweet!  TB

[Plowboy]

You don't want to chop the grille too much like I did on this model.

I've changed it since the photos. To me, the sweet spot is to have the top of the grille with the top of the cowl and the bottom of the grille just below the axle.

[Rocking Rodney Rat]

Cut the grille about this much?. Better to make a small cut and then sneak up on the correct amount rather than take a big hunk out first.... -RRR

[Calb56]

44 minutes ago, Rocking Rodney Rat said:

Cut the grille about this much?. Better to make a small cut and then sneak up on the correct amount rather than take a big hunk out first.... -RRR

That looks great.

Top from Drag City?

[Rocking Rodney Rat]

1 hour ago, Calb56 said:

That looks great.

Top from Drag City?

No, I made the top from the old MPC '32 Chevy roadster. Pix here of the surgery: https://public.fotki.com/jferren/29-roadster-/  Some of the pix have gotten a little wonky somehow... -RRR

[Scott Colmer]

RRR - Wow. I check out the Fotki on the top. That is a lot of surgery. Came out great!

The grill angle looks dead on too.  - Back on topic.