It’s on! For those of you who would like to see the 1971/1972 MPC Plymouth Road Runner re-issued. Now is your chance to let them know!

[drksd4848]

Mr. Steve Goldman has kindly Responded to a post I made about re-issuing the 1971/72 Plymouth Road Runner. 

I am greatly appreciative that he responded. I asked that if you would like to see this model come back, do as he asks and like his post. Basically it’s this: We have this ear. If you want it back, let him know!

It probably isn’t worth mentioning, because it is pretty obvious but I’ll say it anyway:

I wanted to have a 1/25 scale 1972 Plymouth Road Runner since I was five years. I desperately wanted to make a replica of my parents car.  I could never find one in the store, and when I started seeing them on eBay the cost was out of this world to purchase one. The closest I ever came was the 1987 reissue 71 Road Runner but it’s just not the same.  As much as I’m embarrassed to admit it, If this car was re-issued and I had it in my hand, I’d probably get a little misty.  Actually a lot misty. But don’t tell anyone. 

 

 

 

Edited February 6, 2023 by drksd4848

[chryslerjunkandstuff]

YES.

I'd love to have a '72 kit to build into the '72 Satellite Sebring Plus that my parents had way back..

Impossible, practically, because like you said, to buy an original annual is too d-mn much money..

Those fellas at Round2 sure are on the ball ain't they?   

[Sledsel]

A 71/72 Roadrunner would be great!

[Richard Bartrop]

I'm a sucker for the fuelage era mopars, and the '72 Road Runner is right up there.  At the time I thought they looked like something out of the future.

[Stef]

I agree, we need to make this kit a reality.

One as a wing car.

One as a drag racer.

One as a grocery getter.

One as a NASCAR.

One as a pro touring.

One as a pro street.

And one as a post-apocalyptic war machine.

[garagepunk66]

Oh heck yes!

 

[Mr mopar]

'72 would be preferred over the '71 ! 

[Justin Porter]

If you really want a '71/'72 Road Runner, why get all bent and wild to get a remake of some archaic ex-annual from before the age of cable? Between Moebius and Revell you'd have a chance for a genuinely good newly tooled kit. 

I will say that it's sad that we only have one good 1/25th scale road car kit of the "fuselage" B-bodies in the AMT/Ertl era '71 Charger kit. If there was some possibility that Round 2 were interested in taking that remarkable kit's bones and tooling a Road Runner from it then I'd be on board with this idea.

[drksd4848]

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If you really want a '71/'72 Road Runner, why get all bent and wild to get a remake of some archaic ex-annual from before the age of cable? Between Moebius and Revell you'd have a chance for a genuinely good newly tooled kit. 

Does Moebius make a  '71/72 B body?  I have never seen one.

With regard to the Revell GTX: If they had reissued the Monogram Satellite, then I'd be all over that one.  Yes, the Monogram version had far more detail and much better proportions than the MPC version, but Revell/Monogram car only came as a '71.  They never made the '72 like MPC did; the MPC annual is all we got!  Also, the Revell GTX (even Dons FF version) has those kick plates molded into the body, which Road Runners rarely came with.  I've never seen one in the wild with kick plates anyway.  It just...  ain't right.

I will say, the MPC version also has it's share of problems; the front end looks off on both models.  Hopefully, If Round2 reissues it, they can fix some of those issues and add some detail to make it a little closer to the Monogram Satellite.

[Daddyfink]

[s.p.e.c.t.r.e.]

hopefully the kit would still include the custom parts to build the show car.

[Justin Porter]

1 hour ago, drksd4848 said:

Does Moebius make a  '71/72 B body?  I have never seen one.

With regard to the Revell GTX: If they had reissued the Monogram Satellite, then I'd be all over that one.  Yes, the Monogram version had far more detail and much better proportions than the MPC version, but Revell/Monogram car only came as a '71.  They never made the '72 like MPC did; the MPC annual is all we got!  Also, the Revell GTX (even Dons FF version) has those kick plates molded into the body, which Road Runners rarely came with.  I've never seen one in the wild with kick plates anyway.  It just...  ain't right.

I will say, the MPC version also has it's share of problems; the front end looks off on both models.  Hopefully, If Round2 reissues it, they can fix some of those issues and add some detail to make it a little closer to the Monogram Satellite.

I am saying that you should be requesting either of those companies to tool 100% new from scratch rather than pleading for something from the dark ages. Aircraft modelers didn't moan for the old Revell 1/72nd scale P-39 Airacobra. They got Arma Hobby to tool up a 100% new one that was better in every conceivable way and bought that instead. 

[drksd4848]

7 minutes ago, Justin Porter said:

I am saying that you should be requesting either of those companies to tool 100% new from scratch rather than pleading for something from the dark ages. Aircraft modelers didn't moan for the old Revell 1/72nd scale P-39 Airacobra. They got Arma Hobby to tool up a 100% new one that was better in every conceivable way and bought that instead. 

I think re-issuing it is an easier ask.  However, they may have to make new tooling anyway because the original tooling was lost.  If they do, then I hope they'll fix the flaws of the original annual.  They did a beautiful job with the Coronet and GTO with brand new tooling.  Maybe they will do the same with 71/72 RR if they go forward with re-issuing it.

Edited February 7, 2023 by drksd4848

[Justin Porter]

2 minutes ago, drksd4848 said:

I think re-issuing it is an easier ask.  However, they may have to make new tooling anyway because the original tooling was lost.  If they do, then I hope they'll fix the flaws of the original annual.  They did a beautiful job with the Coronet and GTO with brand new tooling.  Maybe they will do the same with 71/72 RR if they go forward with re-issuing it.

You do you but new tooling isn't some mysterious thing. Touring car builders are getting an all new Rover SD1 3500 (NuNu). Rally car builders are getting an all new Opel Ascona (Belkits) AND Escort Cosworth (DM Modelkits). Classic car builders are getting an all new 1930 Ford Model A Phaeton (ICM). Supercar builders are getting an all new Gordon Murray T50 (Tamiya). And Group C prototype builders got an all new Nissan R91P (Hasegawa). 

Just seems to me that as a muscle car builder you're accepting the short end of the stick by not expecting manufacturers to treat your genre with as much viability as the others. 

[Carmak]

The 71/72 Road Runner and 71/72 Charger share the same body structure and have the same wheelbase of 115".

Combining new 71/72 Road Runner body, bumpers, interior sides, and seats with the existing 71 Charger tooling would result in a nice modern kit for a relatively low lift tooling wise.

As others have mentioned I would also be in favor of a 73/74 Charger that could leverage the 71 Charger tooling.

Carmak

[Fat Brian]

3 hours ago, Justin Porter said:

You do you but new tooling isn't some mysterious thing. Touring car builders are getting an all new Rover SD1 3500 (NuNu). Rally car builders are getting an all new Opel Ascona (Belkits) AND Escort Cosworth (DM Modelkits). Classic car builders are getting an all new 1930 Ford Model A Phaeton (ICM). Supercar builders are getting an all new Gordon Murray T50 (Tamiya). And Group C prototype builders got an all new Nissan R91P (Hasegawa). 

Just seems to me that as a muscle car builder you're accepting the short end of the stick by not expecting manufacturers to treat your genre with as much viability as the others. 

You're very correct, car modelers routinely get the brown end of the stick by kit companies putting out ancient tools at new kit costs. No other segment of the hobby tolerates that level of disrespect but nostalgia is a heck of a drug.

[CapSat 6]

Yes please! Here are my thoughts: 

1) the side markers: leave them off of the body completely, do them as decals for the ‘71, and very, very thin clear pieces for the ‘72. On ‘71’s, they are truly flush with the body. Neither MPC nor Monogram/ Revell have ever really engraved these right. 
 

2) the MPC body is pretty warpy in the windshield area. If this body is found, maybe engineer some reinforcement into it. 
 

3) if I had my choice, I would want something engineered to work with the AMT ‘71 Charger, as long as the body was accurate. The MPC bodies were very nice, but by no means 100%. 
 

4) separate door cards for the interior and bench seat options would be great. There are many variations that could be done- these cars had a ton of options (different interiors, stripes, wheels, engines, sunroof and cassette player, etc…) when new. A fully optioned ‘71 GTX, bare bones bench seat ‘71 Road Runner, and a ‘72 somewhere in the middle would be the way to do these. 
 

[1972coronet]

18 minutes ago, CapSat 6 said:

4) separate door cards for the interior and bench seat options would be great. There are many variations that could be done- these cars had a ton of options (different interiors, stripes, wheels, engines, sunroof and cassette player, etc…) when new. A fully optioned ‘71 GTX, bare bones bench seat ‘71 Road Runner, and a ‘72 somewhere in the middle would be the way to do these. 

I've long wanted to build a scale replica of the 1971 Road Runner in The Friends of Eddie Coyle, "Hemi, three-eighty-three hemi.", and all.

[Dave Darby]

6 hours ago, drksd4848 said:

Yes, the Monogram version had far more detail and much better proportions than the MPC version

I don't know about better proportions. I've always found the Monogram grille too tall. The MPC kit has always looked more "right" to me. 

[drksd4848]

58 minutes ago, 1972coronet said:

I've long wanted to build a scale replica of the 1971 Road Runner in The Friends of Eddie Coyle, "Hemi, three-eighty-three hemi.", and all.

https://inv.riverside.rocks/watch?v=71pHnFZlsGs

383 hemi indeed… 

[1972coronet]

12 minutes ago, drksd4848 said:

383 hemi indeed…

Much of the film's dialogue is taken verbatim from the 1970 novel by George V. Higgins (1939-1999), including the "Three-eighty-three hemi" error (or, more likely, an embellishment, as Mr. Higgins's multiple car references in the novel present him as a gear head; and that Jackie Brown would embellish which engine his Road Runner has).
The novel states that the Roadrunner [sic] is a "dark metallic blue"; that it's likely a 1968-1969 model.

Such an underrated film. While the novel is 'better' (more detailed), the film adaptation is very well done. A delightful exposé of the Irish Mafia, Italian Mafia, and the U.S. Government's "unofficial" interactions and double-agent play.

[tim boyd]

1 hour ago, Dave Darby said:

I don't know about better proportions. I've always found the Monogram grille too tall. The MPC kit has always looked more "right" to me. 

Dave, I agree.  As a replica of the 1/1, the Monogram GTX is very good, but I think the MPC is even better.  TB

[Bucky]

I'll jump in with a request for the '72 version. 

[chryslerjunkandstuff]

16 hours ago, s.p.e.c.t.r.e. said:

hopefully the kit would still include the custom parts to build the show car.

This is hands down, THE coolest Plymouth road runner ever built..

[M W Elky]

I built the 1987 reissue and would love to see it back. The body proportions look fine to me as it’s only a model. I always thought the monogram kits looked a little big , but I also preferred 1/25 scale. I would be nice to have a more detailed chassis plate , and a interior with a removable back seat. A set of Fenton wide and narrow aluminum slots these would work well for a drag and a custom version , Firestone drag 500’s , and a couple of pro stock style hood scoops , optional hemi heads and valve covers  , a tunnel ram with dominator carb’s just like the ones in the grumpy’s pro stock vega. A nice t- handle hurst shifter complete with reverse lock out lever, and a simple roll bar could nicely round out the drag option. Even though I usually build drag cars l would definitely build a winged and coned nose nascar version, and a full custom version. If nothing else keep that 440 six pack, and cool pistol grip shifter . I can also see some cool box art with a petty nascar racer , or a Sox & Martin drag car or a full custom even a stock version in that sweet mopar copper color . I don’t think round 2 can go wrong on this one. Here’s a couple of pictures of my 1987 issue survivor