absmiami Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Lovely - i was afraid to ask how long each wheel took … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkJ Posted February 3 Share Posted February 3 Wow, even making your own spoked wheels. Amazing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted February 4 Author Share Posted February 4 hi andrew, took about 15 to 18 hours total for each, making the rim, the center the, center hub and drilling 160 holes. cutting and fitting 80 wires. but i think it was worth it. 2 more to go. going back on the fenders for awhile till my eyes come back to normal. i am doing the right rear next. i have the front hammer form shaped. nice to hear from you also mark,thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanMuscleFan Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 This is pure art my friend, ask for a place in a museum for this masterpiece, we need as many people as possible to be able to contemplate this tour de force! 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy D Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Speechless here Charlie, Your body work and those wheels are just off the chain!!!! That little English wheel 👍 Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted February 16 Author Share Posted February 16 hi francis and randy, still working on fenders . will start on the forth one tomorrow. it takes a few days. i think the tire size is perfect the wheels fit the style of the car well. i am trying to get as close to the pictures as i can. thinking about colors now. got to decide on the engine and transmission and what the front suspension will be. i need the engine and transmission to build the firewall. more pictures when i finish the other fender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlecan Dan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Just beautiful work. Seems like Bugatti Blue would be a good fit. Just my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 This is a really interestiing project being done the Wingrove way. Engineered in metal. Those Radially Spoked Wheels look so elegant. I did a scratch built T59 some years ago and the wheels were a bit demanding to make having three layers of spokes on each wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan31 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Amazing. This is truly the most humbling build to me I've ever seen.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre Rivard Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 Spectacular fabrication. Us mere mortals are into scale modeling. What you do is fabricating the replica like a real car but at a smaller scale. This is so fascinating to watch. Coachbuilder extraordinaire! The wheels are the most beautiful I have ever seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted February 25 Author Share Posted February 25 hi pierre,noel and allen, glad you are still looking and commenting. thank you for your encouraging words. building 2 more wheels. finally have 4 fenders. got ll the wheel parts machined except the gazillion holes for the wires . about half of those. i came up with a great idea,now that they are almost done. i did a little reseach on ebay for stainless steel needles and found them about .032 dia. 1.5 inches long would be perfect for wire wheels. next time. hey , what about a miller 91 supercharged straight 8? somebody suggested 2 offy 4 cyl together. thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 The Brumos Collection in Jacks has some outstanding Miller engines on display - thinking …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan31 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 As I said, amazing and humbling..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 As the story goes, Leo Goossen was a Draftsman working with machinist Fred Offenhauser to develop the racing engines for Harry Miller in the early 20s>30s. The Miller 91 engines use two head-in-block cylinder blocks on a common crank case. Legend has it that Ettore Bugatti purchased one of the Millers to use as a reference for the development of the Bugatti DOHC engines. The Offy engine as we know it today is the offshoot of Miller’s smaller 4cyl. Marine racing engine. So it stands to reason, in my thinking, that the Offy blocks would be a good jumping off point for the updated Bugatti engine. Goosen also went on to work on the development of the Ford 1964 DOHC Indy engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted February 27 Author Share Posted February 27 here is a couple of pictures of the offy i did two projects ago. i thought maybe the supercharge engine. the miller 91 scales to 6.25 inches not including the supercharger on the back or the distributer on the front. dont have enough room. since this has never been a real car how abought a six cyl. supercharged offy or miller, same thing? got the 2 front wheels assembled. got to anodize them tomorrow, and install the wires. andrew allan and john,thanks for your inout,greatly appreciated. also working on the front suspension as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy D Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Always a treat to see your latest postings Charles. The body work is just amazing !!! Those wheels😍 Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codi Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Good day Charlie, This is your finest build so far if I may be so bold in the statement. Love when someone creates their own tool (the english wheel no less) to build something truly unique. I didn't even know that such a car existed and you've captured it so well. Your body work (along with everything else) is better looking than the actual car.....if that's possible. This IS a museum piece and I just don't know what else to say other than......more please! Oh, and thanks for taking the time and sharing your processes and methods like Randy & Charlie do as well. For a scratch-builder, those are priceless! Cheers sir, tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 hi tim, so nice to hear from you . this project has been a major under taking, planing as i go along. i have decided on an engine finally. do to engine compartment size i am doing another offy 270 with a super charger.machining the engine is allways my favorite part. i am still struggling with what to do for front suspension. i am drawing up 2 different front ends trying to decide. thanks again for your comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 thanks for the thanks Charles, Take a search look at the post war Bugatti type 73C, and 102, which were to use 4 cyl. twin cam engine with a front mounted roots type supercharger. It looks like it is pretty much what you are going for. Since this is a fantasy car anyway, what ever you build will be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 THEY REALLY DO LOOK ALOT LIKE THE OFFY. sorry about the caps lock. i have a good start on the offy and am excited about the roots type blower. it looks great. sometimes it gets a little messy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 This is the 270 Offy in the Belanger Special - the Indy Museum brought it to Amelia this weekend … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 So who can we convince to make the Joe Hunt markings as decals ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codi Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Morning Charlie, This is getting better by the minute. I like the set-ups and RESULTS of your milling on the engine. You can tell an experienced machinist by not only the quality but the speed in which they work. Impressive and I too am looking forward to the supercharger / induction on this one. Will you be using different metals on the engine as you go along? Thanks and cheers! tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Nice mill work Charles Here's some info on the Roots blown Offy. Edited March 4 by Big John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted March 5 Author Share Posted March 5 hi tim probably just my usual aluminum and brass. with some info from andrew , he was here at my shop today ,maybe some german silver. andrew thanks for the visit and the pictures , always great to have visitors. big John, WOW, thank you so much. that is great. where did you get that from? i am going to have it blown up to hang on my wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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