Its odd....

[Old Buckaroo]

Whats going on here ? Two threads go poof in two days, Charlie Kirk and 911 Remembrance. These were not political or religious talk topics. Its odd that if a so called "entertainer or sports figure" dies those topics are allowed no matter what that persons beliefs or views may have been. Its disgraceful both of these subjects were removed, if someone had commented differently with their post, that should have been the only thing removed. 

[stitchdup]

Charlie Kirk is political no matter the circumstances as that was his job. The nature of what he represents makes it political and whlle its sad this is the case and we should be able to show our respects, some of you cant resist thinly veiled politcal comments. The 911 post had turned into a debate on morals which is demeaning to a remembrance thread. I hid it because it was no longer about respect for those that passed on that horrrific day. 

[Mike 1017]

12 minutes ago, Old Buckaroo said:

Whats going on here ? Two threads go poof in two days, Charlie Kirk and 911 Remembrance. These were not political or religious talk topics. Its odd that if a so called "entertainer or sports figure" dies those topics are allowed no matter what that persons beliefs or views may have been. Its disgraceful both of these subjects were removed, if someone had commented differently with their post, that should have been the only thing removed. 

I agree 100% Are we going to ban any reference to the Greatest Generation, Remember Pearl Harbor, Veterans Day, Memorial Day, D-Day, VE Day, Japan's Surrender are they next to fade into History?

[sidcharles]

yes.

 

there are plenty of places which those things can be celebrated much better.

[stitchdup]

22 minutes ago, Mike 1017 said:

I agree 100% Are we going to ban any reference to the Greatest Generation, Remember Pearl Harbor, Veterans Day, Memorial Day, D-Day, VE Day, Japan's Surrender are they next to fade into History?

Nobody is banning any reference to those people. I explained why they are gone. If people stop making thinly veiled political comments the threads wont get locked. If you want to make those comments od it elsewhere, is it really that difficult? Respect isn't a debate on morals, I've never been at a funeral where they had a debate over the grave because that is disrespectful. I treated the thread with those same rules.

[stavanzer]

Yeah, I'm not happy with your reasoning, Les.

But, nothing to be done about it, is there.

[iamsuperdan]

If people can't wrap their heads around how a Charlie Kirk thread could get political...

As for the 911 thread, out of 8 seperate posts, 6 had nothing to do with 911, and were drifting towards religious/political debate.

 

Sometimes it's just easier to eliminate a thread before it devolves and people start getting angry with other, and thus before it starts getting reported.

 

 

[bobthehobbyguy]

My hats off to the mods for closing power keg topics which a majority of members don't come to this site for.

The purpose of this site is talking about model cars there are plenty of other social media sites for other topics. Let's keep it that way!!

[Cool Hand]

I find it odd that people want to discuss other off topic matters on a site that is dedicated to building Model Cars.

I visit this place to get away from all the noise and nonsense.  

[ranma]

This? All this? And for what, a Puppy?  .......

Not just the Puppy!

[Old Buckaroo]

Alright answers to my question and then some  - 

Stitchup - I notice you have the "I support Ukraine avatar"  I don't know where you're located, if you are in the Ukraine that makes sense - otherwise that's a political hot mess right there. 

And the rest of you are correct, this is a modeling site with over 30 good topics on modeling, if you're not wanting to read anything but models why drift down to the OT thread?

Bob - Ive only seen you up top asking when the next issue of MCM is coming out. Welcome all the way down to the OT lounge. 

[stitchdup]

41 minutes ago, Old Buckaroo said:

Alright answers to my question and then some  - 

Stitchup - I notice you have the "I support Ukraine avatar"  I don't know where you're located, if you are in the Ukraine that makes sense - otherwise that's a political hot mess right there. 

And the rest of you are correct, this is a modeling site with over 30 good topics on modeling, if you're not wanting to read anything but models why drift down to the OT thread?

Bob - Ive only seen you up top asking when the next issue of MCM is coming out. Welcome all the way down to the OT lounge. 

i'm in scotland. its not political here as all sides of our political parties back ukraine

[Ace-Garageguy]

1 hour ago, stitchdup said:

i'm in scotland. its not political here as all sides of our political parties back ukraine

It's political here though, as not all parties share the same opinion.

And last time I looked, this site was based in America.

If you don't see there's a contradiction there, then we'll just have to disagree.

Nor can I understand how one can even think about 9/11 without questioning how such evil is possible in a "civilized" world, and remarking about it.

Seems like a perfectly natural conversational segue or digression to me.

But it's not my call.

Edited 21 hours ago by Ace-Garageguy

[Volzfan59]

I am the OP of the 9/11 thread. The original title was “9/11, not political”. @stitchdup had a nice PM chat about and he changed the title to “9/11 Rememberance” as we both agreed that there’s no way a 9/11 never forget post would get political. We were both wrong. The first reply is the only one that I saw and it wasn’t political but I trust his judgement and he was in communication with me concerning the matter. I appreciate that and approve his actions. Let this be the end of this. 

[Can-Con]

All I can really say is I have friends with many beliefs. Some that I do not agree with yet I still call them friends.

Even so I still call them "friends" and treat them the same as I always have in the past , the way I view them has changed after I've found out about thier views. 

And yes, that includes some members of the forums I attend.  [no one in this particular discussion though, BTW]

This is the danger of expressing political or religious views on a public forum such as this.

It can colour your opinion of someone who you have never actually met and do not know outside of this very limited arena. Not really a good thing, I think.

This is why I try to not engage in such discussions. Probably should not have even posted this opinion but here it is.

Thank you.

Edited 18 hours ago by Can-Con

[Ace-Garageguy]

7 hours ago, bobthehobbyguy said:

The purpose of this site is talking about model cars there are plenty of other social media sites for other topics.

This section is called "The Off-Topic Lounge".

If I'm still capable of understanding what words in English mean, that means this section isn't about model cars.

If endless posts about celebrities dying and friendly squirrels and what somebody had for dinner and what griped or pleased everyone don't interest you and all you want to be exposed to is model car talk, there's a pretty simple solution.

Don't scroll down this far.

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by Ace-Garageguy
punctiliousness

[Xingu]

Copied from the forum header for this section:

 

The Off-Topic Lounge

General discussions on anything EXCEPT politics or religion! Keep it clean... all forum rules apply!

 

Off-Topic doesn't mean anything goes. Just like free speech doesn't mean you can say fire in a theater or bomb on a plane. 

Part of our job is interpreting what is political and what isn't. Putting "this isn't political" in the title or your post generally means even the poster knows that it is probably political or going to be really quick. We often lock or remove post preemptively, to keep the more vocal and passionate members from getting themselves banned. Some of you guys just can't stop yourselves from posting or replying with your point or counterpoint and then all heck breaks loose. Then when we ban folks or put them on moderation, we have to go through 20 rounds of messages about how their post wasn't this or that, and how we are out to get them. So really, we are tired of the same old, same old and stop it sooner rather than later. Some of you have been here long enough to know what the rules are, but you still like to test the boundaries. 

This area is provided for your use so that you may possibly connect with other members on something other than models. There are rules associated with this area, follow them. We don't have to provide it and honestly, our jobs would be so much easier if we didn't have to constantly police it.

[Cool Hand]

8 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

If endless posts about celebrities dying and friendly squirrels and what somebody had for dinner and what griped or pleased everyone don't interest you and all you want to be exposed to is model car talk, there's a pretty simple solution.

Don't scroll down this far.

Me personally I would rather direct most my spare time to being at my bench being productive and getting results. Thats why I prefer to view the wips and underglass sections as thats whats provides me with inspiration and motivation to build.

The off topic basement section is nothing more than a distraction that I really dont need to view, but I do just for 5mins of amusement.

Edited 9 hours ago by Cool Hand

[sidcharles]

3 hours ago, Cool Hand said:

. . . .  I really dont need to view, but I do just for 5mins of amusement.

that's what Little Johnny told the principal after being expelled from 5th grade for viewing X-rated sites on the school library's computer.*

*yes; it was the first day of school, and someone forgot to block "those" sites' access.

[Volzfan59]

I was going to leave this alone as I had already said what I had to say. However, @Xingu, the reason that I originally titled my post “9/11 not political” was A. Because it wasn’t and  B. I didn’t want anyone, including the moderators, to think that it was.

Not directed at anyone in particular. The fact that some people want to make a post remembering the innocent lives lost that day and the lost lives of my fellow veterans and law enforcement brothers and sisters to this very day into some political gotcha, conspiracy theory or anything else for that matter is asinine to me. But, that’s just me. 
 

As I mentioned, I am one of the OP’s. @stitchdup was in communication with me and I fully support all of his decisions.