No love for Dodge?

[Larryhagmansliver]

I'm kind of surprised that there doesn't seem to be anything forthcoming as far as models of the new Dodge designs.

Between the new Ram, Durango, and the redesign of the 2011 Charger, I would think someone would be producing some new kits to keep up.

Am I missing anything?

[59-Desoto]

Always been a short coming as far as Mopar go s after JoHan went by the way side , but Moebius has us one coming soon

[SteveG]

I say Dodge has got plenty of Love over the last 5 years. There's 4 variations of the Lindberg - Testors Charger kits. RT, Daytona, Super Bee SRT and Police Package. Don't forget the Revell Uptown SRT Charger kit.

Then there's the AMT Challenger RT and SRT Curbside kits with another 5 variations of the Promos. Also Revell's excellent full detail Challenger kit.

Back to Lindberg with the Ramanator and Rammunition Dodge Monster trucks kits, both very well done. I'll try to forgive them for the Weirdo's versions.

Not to mention re-issues of the L700 trucks and trailers, The A100 Pickup-LRW kit, 64 Dodge 330 and Super Stock versions and Dakota Pickup.

Did I miss any ?

Steve

Edited June 8, 2011 by SteveG

[SteveG]

you forgot the '68 Hemi Dart kit as well as the forgotten Revell Charger Super Bee kit

plenty of love for Dodge out there, just have a look around

I can't believe I forgot about the 68 Hemi Dart considering I have one on the shelf above my computer desk. Isn't the Revell Charger Super Bee the Uptown kit?

Steve

[Zoom Zoom]

You want models of 2011 Dodges?

Well...if recent history is anything to go by, the kit manufacturers who would be likely to do a new modern Dodge are apparently unable/unwilling to get a new plastic model car out until it's about 2-3 model years old .

If you want anything newer/sooner, you're better off looking at diecast.

Plenty of modern Dodges, but don't expect models of 2011 subjects until 2013...and that's if they decide to do them.

[Chuck Kourouklis]

Heh. No kiddin'.

[SteveG]

You want models of 2011 Dodges?

Well...if recent history is anything to go by, the kit manufacturers who would be likely to do a new modern Dodge are apparently unable/unwilling to get a new plastic model car out until it's about 2-3 model years old .

If you want anything newer/sooner, you're better off looking at diecast.

Plenty of modern Dodges, but don't expect models of 2011 subjects until 2013...and that's if they decide to do them.

The days of the 1:1 Manufacturers providing early data are long gone, that died along with the annual promos. Between the licensing issues, overseas production and the complexity of todays modern kits. A year is considered lightning speed for a new kit.

If I had to speculate, Round 2 is probably in the best position to give us a 2011 Charger as they already have two 4 dr LX platform models that they could update from either the Magnum or Chrysler 300 kits. Lindberg's status is unknown, I'd count them out for now. I'm not sure if Revell's Challenger shares enough with new Charger to make it work. Bob's right that our best bet is a new diecast piece, at least for now.

Steve

[Chuck Kourouklis]

Gone maybe, but I don't know about long-gone, Steve -

Revell was able to get us at least a nominal 2006 Mustang GT at the end of 2005, by way of f'rinstance...

[Chuck Most]

Hey, I'm still waiting for an '06 Dodge Ram 2500 Power Wagon...

[SteveG]

Gone maybe, but I don't know about long-gone, Steve -

Revell was able to get us at least a nominal 2006 Mustang GT at the end of 2005, by way of f'rinstance...

I'd chalk that one up to clever packaging then speedy production. I'm sure Revell had been working on it since the introduction of the fifth gen 2005 Mustang. I believe it was first shown to the public in early 2004. That gave them almost two years to bring us a "new" 2006 kit. Now if they had brought out a 2005 Mustang kit in late 2004 I would have been impressed !!

Steve

[SteveG]

Steve...the Magnum is Revell, not Round2/AMT.

Which is as good thing if there were going to be a modified tool...it could come from either one. Thing is, other than the basic chassis plate and some suspension bits, not a lot would translate since the new cars have different bodies and interiors. Might as well make an all-new tool...

My bad Mark, your right of course. I'll blame my memory lapse on all the recent heat wave. I guess Revell and Round 2 would have an equal shot. Even if they don't share tooling they might be able to re-use the CAD drawings for what ever parts those cars share as part of the same LX platform which could save some money.

Regardless, I'm sure not holding my breath until we get a 2011 or newer Charger.

[Zoom Zoom]

I remember the day when the '84 Corvette hit the dealerships. I went by the hobby shop, and the Monogram snap kit '84 hit the shelves the very same day.

I don't ever expect that to happen again

[Rob Hall]

The thing this interesting, though, is that diecast makers are much quicker to market w/ new designs than styrene kit makers...higher sales expectations and cheaper tooling costs, maybe?

I'd love to see the '11 Charger, 300C, Durango and Grand Cherokee tooled up in 1:25th, but I don't see it happening anytime soon. An updated '11 Challenger SRT8 392 would be easy enough for Revell, though.

[Hawk312]

I`ll just say I would really like a 2011 Charger kit, snap or otherwise, as long as it is convincing. I`d also like to see the new Gran Sport Corvettes in kit form, but that is another thread. :P

[Hawk312]

I remember the day when the '84 Corvette hit the dealerships. I went by the hobby shop, and the Monogram snap kit '84 hit the shelves the very same day.

I don't ever expect that to happen again

Siiiiiggghhhh.....memories. I remember buying an `82 Trans Am kit in `82. And then an `83 in `83. I remember them being $4.99 at Kay-Bee toys.

[sak]

No offense to those who like modern day dodge cars and trucks but I would prefer to see kits done of vintage dodges. Not even just dodges actually. I would prefer them concentrate their attention on things that have never been done at all like the hudson that is coming soon. A 64 wildcat would be cool. Something different. Newer style cars just do not inspire me at all. Just my opinion.

Edited June 9, 2011 by sak

[Rob Hall]

Siiiiiggghhhh.....memories. I remember buying an `82 Trans Am kit in `82. And then an `83 in `83. I remember them being $4.99 at Kay-Bee toys.

I remember buying the MPC '87 Mustang GT kit around the same time I got my 1:1 '87 Mustang GT new...

[Tony T]

My '85 SVO Mustang kit says copyright 1984!

Simultaneous 1:1 and kit releases are a thing of the glorious past, my friends!!

[Rob Hall]

My '85 SVO Mustang kit says copyright 1984!

Simultaneous 1:1 and kit releases are a thing of the glorious past, my friends!!

Funny thing though--the import companies seem to be able to keep up...Revell of Germany and Fujimi seem to be pretty punctual w/ their releases of new subjects..

[niteowl7710]

I think a lot more of it has to do with the helpfulness (or lack thereof) of the automobile manufacturers than the kit companies. If you'll think back a few months to the fiasco over the M-B SLS AMG and Revell USA being told to sit and spin on the idea of re-boxing that kit in a "North American" box without paying a separate licensing fee.

To the gist of this thread, the Charger kit from Lindberg (for Testors) came out in 2006 when the car did. I would like to a Durango/Grand Cherokee (since they're the same platform) kit.

I think right now there might be a good case for leader/follower for a new truck/SUV kit. Whoever leads that path is going to have good sales, whomever follows perhaps not as much. Remember the last modern day pick-up kit was the 1999 Silverado, so 12 years later I think there is a market clambering for a new kit. I don't know that there's a market for 6 of them.

[Chuck Most]

I'd agree with a new pickup kit- Dodge, Ram, or what have you. The semi-tractor kit biz has been on quite a resurgence lately, light trucks cant' be too far behind. My local shop sold out of the Linberg Dakota reissues in a week, so at least in the Central MI area (and any other part of the country which resembles the central MI area), they should do well indeed.

[Harry P.]

I sure hope we do get one. That's one fine-looking car, IMO.

They are getting closer to what the new Charger should have looked like in the first place.

[niteowl7710]

I think it was poor sales of that Silverado kit that convinced Revell that modern pickups were losing subjects sales-wise. However, I tend to believe Revell shot itself in the foot with the Waverider version of the Silverado by including that gawd-awful custom front end treatment. I think it would've sold much better without that. Still, I thought the Silverado was pretty much a "meh" subject in both 1:1 and in scale.

I guess they were desperate to attempt something to help cover the tooling costs? Same thing with the '97 F-150 kit. They picked the most baseline vanilla options...2wd, base model...how about a 4x4 F-250, or 2500HD Duramax or something interesting?

[Guest]

Remember the last modern day pick-up kit was the 1999 Silverado, so 12 years later I think there is a market clambering for a new kit. I don't know that there's a market for 6 of them.

Actually Both Revell and AMT brought out kits of the Cadillac Escalade.

[Luc Janssens]

Well, they did do the Lightning and the Harley Edition later on. And, speaking of the H-D Edition, that kit must have had a VERY limited production run because they died up in a hurry and you almost never see 'em today!

Glad that I bought two when they were new, BTW I like the way Revell did the grille with the seperate insert, too bad they didn't engineer the basic and Lightning F-150s the same way.