Lucas van H Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 Seems to me the boss should have checked for workers better. Yeah well, it's all good after we had a talk, no hard feelings. He had a appointment so he wanted to go asap
Lucas van H Posted February 6, 2015 Posted February 6, 2015 When my ex said 'I'll be ready in 10 minutes, wait in the car', that's more or less how my car would look after '10 minutes'...
Agent G Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I've had a few cold days at work . . . Oh man does that bring back memories. I'd sit in my nice cozy car blocking an intersection watching the FF's freeze in the spray. I tipped my hat to them each and every time. G
Danno Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 And people wonder why I live in AZ now! It took three years here before the middles of my bones thawed out!
southpier Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) link to another forum deleted Edited February 9, 2015 by southpier
Pete J. Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 I am so tired of hearing people not taking some responsibility for their actions and blaming it all on someone else. Particularly the one that starts with, "I was really drunk and somebody else....." Well, heck, I'm sorry, but you got drunk. Nobody sat on you chest and poured booze down your throat. You are responsible for getting drunk in the first place and you have to accept responsibility for your own stupidity.
southpier Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 i think that's a by-product of the "everyone gets a ribbon" school of training.
chunkypeanutbutter Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Also, parents being told to not discipline their children... Jeez! Used to be that if you did something wrong, then you got slapped for it. Not abusive, it's educational: don't so it, or suffer the consequences, like, y'know, what happens in the real world.
my80malibu Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Betcha it starts! Betcha the Pump splits in half over night.
unclescott58 Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 i think that's a by-product of the "everyone gets a ribbon" school of training. Were does this come from? I been working in schools for 8 years now and have never seen anything where "everybody gets a ribbon." I hear about it all the time from people outside of education system. From the inside, I can tell you it's not true. Scott
southpier Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 https://www.google.com/search?q=everybody+gets+a+ribbon&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=785&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=9lDaVLvyAoy-ggSh74GQDg&ved=0CCsQsAQ
Monty Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Were does this come from? I been working in schools for 8 years now and have never seen anything where "everybody gets a ribbon." I hear about it all the time from people outside of education system. From the inside, I can tell you it's not true. Scott Just quoted for irony. If you're that unaware of the deleterious trends in education, I'm hoping your work there isn't teaching-related. We've been ranked behind some 3rd world countries in math and science for years, and the internet is full of young babble-monkeys who can't spell words most of us first encountered in 2nd grade. Some of this goes back a couple decades when schools adopted policies that would negatively affect students. In the 1980s, for example, many schools stopped teaching phonics, impairing many students' reading abilities. In the '90s, "social promotion" allowed schools to move a failing student on to the next grade instead of being held back until he or she had learned the required subject matter for that grade. Check the results for yourself. The average Detroit high school graduate reads below a 6th grade level. Just FYI, this info comes from friends and relatives involved in "education" at levels ranging from public grade schools & expensive charter schools to community colleges. Edited February 11, 2015 by Monty
High octane Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I hafta agree with you Monty, as the education in this country has been falling below world standards for quite some time. And the educators are making great salaries and pensions, while this goes on decade after decade.
Chuck Most Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Well, it seems like everybody wants to bring manufacturing jobs back from China. In the off chance that happens, who needs education? Who needs to be able to spell complicated words like "I" when all they're doing is sewing tags onto Pokemon plushies, right? *sarcasm font*
blunc Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Well, it seems like everybody wants to bring manufacturing jobs back from China. In the off chance that happens, who needs education? Who needs to be able to spell complicated words like "I" when all they're doing is sewing tags onto Pokemon plushies, right? *sarcasm font* I think this would be classed as "snarkasm", even if it does tend to be uncomfortably close to the truth.
Pete J. Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) For those who don't have more contact with the school systems, I would remind them that it is not the school system that is failing our children, it is the parents. A child gets as good of an education as the parents demand and contribute to. The majority of parents send their kids off to school and think they are done for the day. They treat the school system as a baby sitter service. Then they expect a brilliant kid to come home. Absolutely unreasonable! Parenting is all about being involved with your child's education. Helping with homework, seeing that it gets done, teaching at home. Going to "Back to school night". Being active in parent/teacher conferences. Here in California schools have "advanced placement" classes. These are the above the standard curriculum classes that challenge the child to work harder. We insisted that both of our children participate in that curriculum. I remember going to a back to school night at the local high school, and the teacher walked into a standing room only classroom. His first comment was, "Oh, right, this is the AP class. Everyone is here." Children will get out of the education only what the parents insist on. If the parents don't care, the kids don't care and the first rule of education is you can't teach an unmotivated student, no matter how good of a teacher you are. I grew up in the 50's and all the parents I knew believed that the only way to a better life was through education. I believe that most parents will mouth the words, but few will actually do what they have to do to make it happen. Edited February 11, 2015 by Pete J.
chunkypeanutbutter Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) For those who don't have more contact with the school systems, I would remind them that it is not the school system that is failing our children, it is the parents. And a lot of parents these days are split up, which can't help, either. Edited February 11, 2015 by chunkypeanutbutter
Monty Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 For those who don't have more contact with the school systems, I would remind them that it is not the school system that is failing our children, it is the parents. A child gets as good of an education as the parents demand and contribute to. I'll agree that parental involvement is important for optimal learning, but it's not the parents who make the types of policies I mentioned in my post. In fact, a lot of these types of things were put in place despite parental opposition. Ever tried to fight education policy you didn't feel was right? How'd that work out for you? In addition to those issues, ever hear of "Teach the test"? Schools all over the US have been caught teaching only the material covered on the assessment test. The point was to achieve as many high scores as possible because that keeps the Federal compliance funds rolling in, education be d@mned. As a parent or grandparent, are you excited to see how already poorly taught kids do under the coming CommonCore BS? Many parents are just now discovering what a horrible system this is, yet I'll bet you we'll see it federally mandated in five years unless parents really stand against it. Interesting that you mentioned California. Any comments on the new behavior-based grading system that's supposed to be implemented in your elementary schools on a wider level by next year? I used to enjoy mocking the chimps who couldn't differentiate between "are' and "our", and who tried to use "through" as the past tense of a verb, but I started wondering whether something like that might have serious consequences when I saw a shipping document that had the word "except" in place of "accept". Give a lawyer an inch... Lastly, what does it say when an internet forum like ours has members from places where English is a 2nd language, yet for the most part they have far fewer issues with spelling and grammar than many of our US-educated members? Do Europeans have better, more involved parents?
unclescott58 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 For those who don't have more contact with the school systems, I would remind them that it is not the school system that is failing our children, it is the parents. A child gets as good of an education as the parents demand and contribute to. The majority of parents send their kids off to school and think they are done for the day. They treat the school system as a baby sitter service. Then they expect a brilliant kid to come home. Absolutely unreasonable! Parenting is all about being involved with your child's education. Helping with homework, seeing that it gets done, teaching at home. Going to "Back to school night". Being active in parent/teacher conferences. Here in California schools have "advanced placement" classes. These are the above the standard curriculum classes that challenge the child to work harder. We insisted that both of our children participate in that curriculum. I remember going to a back to school night at the local high school, and the teacher walked into a standing room only classroom. His first comment was, "Oh, right, this is the AP class. Everyone is here." Children will get out of the education only what the parents insist on. If the parents don't care, the kids don't care and the first rule of education is you can't teach an unmotivated student, no matter how good of a teacher you are. I grew up in the 50's and all the parents I knew believed that the only way to a better life was through education. I believe that most parents will mouth the words, but few will actually do what they have to do to make it happen. Amen. And by the way Monty, I do work with the kids directly in a teacher related situation. Most kids are doing okay. Those that are not many times have problems coming in from outside of the schools. But, given the right attention they're for most part all good kids. Scott
Monty Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Amen. And by the way Monty, I do work with the kids directly in a teacher related situation. Most kids are doing okay. Those that are not many times have problems coming in from outside of the schools. But, given the right attention they're for most part all good kids. Scott Scott, take another look at post #3751. See where I quoted part of your post and highlighted a segment of it? Do you understand what I meant when I said "Just quoted for irony"?
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