Mark Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Studebaker Packard discontinued the Packard V8 (first introduced at Packard in 1955) and sold the tooling and rights to AMC, leaving Studebaker with their original small block V8, which started out at 239cid, ultimately to be poked out to 289 cubic inches. The first-generation AMC V8 is unrelated to the Packard V8, which was produced only in '55 and '56. They were all built at the Packard plant in Detroit, never in South Bend or Kenosha. ('57 and '58 Packards used Stude engines.) AMC buying the Packard engines was supposed to be the start of a mutual purchasing deal where the two companies would buy parts from one another. Packard's half of the deal (buying parts from AMC) didn't materialize, at least to the satisfaction of AMC's leadership. So they set out on a crash program to develop their own V8 engine. The AMC engine is often said to be based on a stillborn Kaiser-Frazer V8 design. A couple of ex-Kaiser engineers were working for AMC at the time the engine appeared, so that may or may not be true.
Mark Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 There is a very good reason why we went with the big block. Probably has something to do with its resemblance to the 426 Hemi block...
High octane Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 The poly-head engines were never that popular as I 've seen a lot of Mopars, but no poly-head engines. I even shied away from buying a beautiful '64 Polara hardtop because it had a poly motor, and where would I get parts for it? And were would I get aluminum heads and intake manifolds for it also? No thanks.
Funkster Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 High Octane, In the last ten years the poly engine have become quite popular In the land down they make alot of parts for the poly engines with some makeing as much as 500 hp.. Not an egine to shy away from any more.just like the early Hemi's and a place called Hot Heads making parts for them too.
Rob Hall Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) There is a very good reason why we went with the big block. No doubt for doing subsequent Super Stock drag versions.. The '65 Satellite and Comet will both be welcome kits, as neither have been kitted before..good 'gap fillers'.. Edited July 23, 2014 by Rob Hall
69NovaYenko Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 (edited) The comet and the Satellite for sure, and maybe even the new Hudson. Now lets hope they do something like some 60's and 70's era AMC cars. Imagine a Javelin or Rebel Machine kit with the quality that comes out of Moebius. Now thats one exciting though...a new reissue of AMC cars!!! NO ONE attempted to release any replicas of these cars since the demise of Jo-Han. A fresh reissue of the `68 Javelin and `70 Javelin is long over due. Possible a Mark Donohue special edition build option could be included in the `70 Javelin kit. Edited July 23, 2014 by 69NovaYenko
johnbuzzed Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 There is a very good reason why we went with the big block. I will be getting the '65; now, I'm wondering what else you guys might have in the works...
Brett Barrow Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 There is a very good reason why we went with the big block. No doubt for doing subsequent Super Stock drag versions.. The '65 Satellite and Comet will both be welcome kits, as neither have been kitted before..good 'gap fillers'.. Fingers crossed... Fingers also crossed for a sedan...
1972coronet Posted July 23, 2014 Posted July 23, 2014 Check out that wrinkled quarter panel (just-forward of the wheel arch) ! Chemical Milling has its merits ... and its downfalls .
72 Charger Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 I think its great news that there is some new models coming out . Who distributes Moebius kits in the UK?
High octane Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 Terry, I just may be at a Mopar show this Sunday and I'll see if there's any poly-head motors in the bunch.
LVZ2881 Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 I'd be in for some AMC's. Amx, Javelin, and Machine!!!
mangodart Posted July 24, 2014 Posted July 24, 2014 The poly-head engines were never that popular as I 've seen a lot of Mopars, but no poly-head engines. I even shied away from buying a beautiful '64 Polara hardtop because it had a poly motor, and where would I get parts for it? And were would I get aluminum heads and intake manifolds for it also? No thanks. The Polyhead engine was the main engine choice in popular Mopar from 57 to 66, on the 58 Fury, they put 290hp out of it with the dual carb manifold which is not that bad, also, as we have plenty of big block engine in scale, it would be a great addition to have the Polyhead, anyway I understand why they choose the RB engine, full off drag racing possibilities
chopper430 Posted July 25, 2014 Posted July 25, 2014 I saw these at nnl this year and by the looks of them there going to be good sellers ,now all they need to do is to make some 50's buicks and caddys.
Art Anderson Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 Where is this kit now? From what I'm told, just now going to tooling--it won't be long! Art
Dave Metzner Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 We are reviewing 3D files- Tooling could start in the next week - 10 days. Dave
1972coronet Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 We are reviewing 3D files- Tooling could start in the next week - 10 days. Dave "Excellent ... ha ha ha ... excellent ..."
mike 51 Posted July 26, 2014 Posted July 26, 2014 how are the 54 hudsons coming along? release date yet?
Art Anderson Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 how are the 54 hudsons coming along? release date yet? Coming along--a couple of issues with the body shells still to be resolved.
charlie8575 Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 The poly-head engines were never that popular as I 've seen a lot of Mopars, but no poly-head engines. I even shied away from buying a beautiful '64 Polara hardtop because it had a poly motor, and where would I get parts for it? And were would I get aluminum heads and intake manifolds for it also? No thanks. While it might be true that you can't get a lot of performance parts for them (at least now,) there are plenty of internals available from specialized shops like Egge Machine in California. You don't see a lot of poly-heads now because too many people ripped them out and shoved in B-blocks and Hemis. For most of the cars they appeared in, the polyhead 318 was, by far, the most common engine choice. Although I don't have numbers, I would suspect, based on what I've read, they were at least as common as the Slant Six, and probably more so in the big cars. The 1962-64 downsized big cars, and the 1965-66 B-bodies had Slants and Polys in almost equal proliferation. The B engines were actually not all that common. Charlie Larkin
ChrisBcritter Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Isn't this a Poly engine? Danbury Mint '57 Dodge Sweptline parts. Just sold for ten bucks on eBay:
sak Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 Shirley..performance parts were available back in the day. Rather recently at a swap meet I saw a weind aluminum intake for poly v8. I always thought they made respectable power right from the factory ...far more than the two-barrel , small valve 318 that replaced it anyway.
Randytheroadrunner Posted July 27, 2014 Posted July 27, 2014 (edited) Isn't this a Poly engine? Danbury Mint '57 Dodge Sweptline parts. Just sold for ten bucks on eBay: Isn't this a Poly engine? Danbury Mint '57 Dodge Sweptline parts. Just sold for ten bucks on eBay: Looks like a Poly to me. Somebody needs to cast one. Edited July 27, 2014 by Randytheroadrunner
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