Luc Janssens Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Here's a question for you guys, which might be of interest to Round2.... What wheels (rims) would you like to have as part packs? The catch to this question is, that they have to be in R2's back catalog (tooled up by Amt, Mpc, Ertl, Lindberg or PL in the past) and you have to list, the kit(s) they came in. Edited September 12, 2014 by Luc Janssens
ChrisBcritter Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Those sharp wire wheels from the '65 Riviera and the Radir mags from the Fireball 500, and maybe the deep two-piece chrome reverse wheels from the '57 T-bird if they still exist. Pipe dreams: the perfect '57 Plymouth wheelcovers that were in the original issue '62 Impala.
VW93 Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 The tri bar wheel covers from the original issue '49 Ford.The custom wheel covers from the original '34 Ford PU.The Moon discs from the original Trophy Series '32 & '40 Fords.Any period correct wheel covers for 50's and 60's customs.I hate to sound like a broken record but, I'd like to see the '32 Ford coupe reissued as the original Trophy kit. I know it was reissued a few years ago but it didn't have the cycle fenders, cutaway hood and several other original pieces.
Brett Barrow Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Deep & deeper Cragars from the Baldwin Motion 70 Camaro (with those great Mickey Thompsons) Vectors from the General Lee or Eckler Corvette Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Keystone Mags (40 Ford SD and others) Buick Wires mentioned above (also in the Silhouette) Chrome reverse with baby moons from 49 Merc Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Chrome reverse from 36 Ford (hey they're already on their own little mini-sprue!) Americans from 62 Bel Air (plated - or better ones from another kit) Slot mags (help me out, which kits have a decent set?) Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Edited September 12, 2014 by Brett Barrow
Greg Myers Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner
Brett Barrow Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) I have them, they're much too deep and too big in diameter, the tires are funky and no standard tire will fit them. They just don't have the look. The ones in the 60 Ford (and the "Americans" in the 69 Hurst Olds) are much closer to the real deal: I came up with a way to modify the Pegasus wheels, but it's a lot of work, and without a lathe I end up ruining 1 out of every 4 Edited September 12, 2014 by Brett Barrow
Monty Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Deep & deeper Cragars from the Baldwin Motion 70 Camaro (with those great Mickey Thompsons) Vectors from the General Lee or Eckler Corvette Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Keystone Mags (40 Ford SD and others) Buick Wires mentioned above (also in the Silhouette) Chrome reverse with baby moons from 49 Merc Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Chrome reverse from 36 Ford (hey they're already on their own little mini-sprue!) Americans from 62 Bel Air (plated - or better ones from another kit) Slot mags (help me out, which kits have a decent set?) Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Astro Supremes from 60 Ford Starliner Agreed. I'll see those and raise you these hard-to-find wheels. I think the 1:1 versions were made by ET. I don't have the AMT Starliner kit. Are the wheels on this Charger similar? I don't recall seeing these in any other MPC kit & wouldn't mind having a few sets for current projects. MPC included a set of two larger Keystone Klassics as the "front" wheels in the '68 Cuda kit issued in the mid-'70s. Why not issue them as a set of four? Lastly, I'll add the Motor Wheel Spyders from the MPC mid-'70s + Firebirds. Edited September 12, 2014 by Monty
Guest Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Agreed. I'll see those and raise you these hard-to-find wheels. I think the 1:1 versions were made by ET. I don't have the AMT Starliner kit. Are the wheels on this Charger similar? I don't recall seeing these in any other MPC kit & wouldn't mind having a few sets for current projects. MPC included a set of two larger Keystone Klassics as the "front" wheels in the '68 Cuda kit issued in the mid-'70s. Why not issue them as a set of four? Lastly, I'll add the Motor Wheel Spyders from the MPC mid-'70s + Firebirds. There is a wheel in that pic?
Harry P. Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 I don't know if I'd want to join a group where I'm called an idiot on a pretty regular basis... I don't remember you being called an idiot. Did I miss something? Because if that's a fact, I can put a stop to that very easily.
Danno Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 I don't remember you being called an idiot. Did I miss something? Because if that's a fact, I can put a stop to that very easily. I think he was referencing R2 and Revell, both of whom are regularly called 'idiots' and worse on a regular basis by about 3-4 regulars. From their (R2 and Revell) perspectives, why would you want to post someplace where they're automatically going to attract hecklers of that order?
Harry P. Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 Ok, but I don't remember anyone ever actually calling Brett an idiot. Because that stuff doesn't fly here, and if it happens I'll take care of it. Calling a corporation an "idiot" may be silly... but it doesn't break any forum rules.
Harry P. Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 From their (R2 and Revell) perspectives, why would you want to post someplace where they're automatically going to attract hecklers of that order? IMO, you have to expect hecklers. It's part of the deal when you have a forum open to the public. You have to be able to rise above that and state your case. It's like being a politician. You will have your followers, and you will have your detractors.
Danno Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 IMO, you have to expect hecklers. It's part of the deal when you have a forum open to the public. You have to be able to rise above that and state your case. It's like being a politician. You will have your followers, and you will have your detractors. I, for one, certainly don't disagree with what you're saying. I just think that's what Brett meant.
Harry P. Posted September 12, 2014 Posted September 12, 2014 I, for one, certainly don't disagree with what you're saying. I just think that's what Brett meant. Got it.
Brett Barrow Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Ok, but I don't remember anyone ever actually calling Brett an idiot. Because that stuff doesn't fly here, and if it happens I'll take care of it. Calling a corporation an "idiot" may be silly... but it doesn't break any forum rules. Corporations are people too, my friend... And no, no one has ever called me an idiot that I know of. I kinda like it better if the companies lurk and don't post. You know you're getting it honest. Sometimes those Moebius threads can turn into a love fest. Takes a lot of guts to stand up and say something looks wrong (like the side windows in the Ford pickup) instead of blowing smoke like the rest. I don't see where the animosity comes from when they screw something up. We should be thanking them they just saved us $20 on a model we now don't have to buy!
Tom Geiger Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Wow! I agree with the posts by Tim and Brett. Think about it... if you were a manufacturer with limited time, would you be spending it on a message board known to be hostile? There's a certain faction here on this board that won't give the manufacturers an inch. Especially a few Tamiya worshippers who nothing that the domestic manufacturers produce will ever be good enough for them! If indeed we want the manufacturers to come onto this board, we need to watch our manners.
Harry P. Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Moebius posted test shots of their Chrysler 300 here (and elsewhere, I assume). Kudos to them for that. And Moebius got it good here on this forum (and elsewhere, I would guess) regarding the screwed up "humped" roofline and other problems. From myself, and others. And you know what? They listened, they responded, and they fixed it. Before they released it. Kudos to them again. When a kit manufacturer acts like that, they deserve the "love fest" that follows.
1930fordpickup Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Wow! I agree with the posts by Tim and Brett. Think about it... if you were a manufacturer with limited time, would you be spending it on a message board known to be hostile? There's a certain faction here on this board that won't give the manufacturers an inch. Especially a few Tamiya worshippers who nothing that the domestic manufacturers produce will ever be good enough for them! If indeed we want the manufacturers to come onto this board, we need to watch our manners. "Tamiya worshippers" is this a new cult? LOL I agree Tom.
Ridge Rider Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Moebius posted test shots of their Chrysler 300 here (and elsewhere, I assume). Kudos to them for that. And Moebius got it good here on this forum (and elsewhere, I would guess) regarding the screwed up "humped" roofline and other problems. From myself, and others. And you know what? They listened, they responded, and they fixed it. Before they released it. Kudos to them again. When a kit manufacturer acts like that, they deserve the "love fest" that follows. I think this approach would be beneficial to all concerned as long at it stays civil. The manufactures would have an unpaid RandD department thousands deep. Sadly not all criticism is constructive.
keyser Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 (edited) I don't know if I'd want to join a group where I'm called an idiot on a pretty regular basis... Agree completely. For those who are impaired: A person, corporate representative, or magazine contributor or customer shouldn't have to be subject to abuse while in this forum. Spelling that out in forum rules for the ludicrously literal should be moot if one has any idea how to relate in business, or life in general. I think he was referencing R2 and Revell, both of whom are regularly called 'idiots' and worse on a regular basis by about 3-4 regulars. From their (R2 and Revell) perspectives, why would you want to post someplace where they're automatically going to attract hecklers of that order? Again, I agree. Yet aforementioned hecklers are passively endorsed by some here. Big difference in spotting problem and being incredulous that it went thru (57 Fury; 61 Impala; 67 442; various Cudas, Fox notchback, 57 BA convert to cover many manufacturers) versus "giving it to Moebius et al" to fix it. As is attacking people who see the problem as "negative" or taking personal umbrage. The dreaded "maroon letter" LOL Danno. Then there's the ones that diss anything they're not interested in, i.e. snap kits, as toys. Lets keep this hobby for the elite, small lunatic fringe here. Wait, what? "Calling a corporation an "idiot" may be silly... but it doesn't break any forum rules." Also, consider if someone calls MCM a bunch of idiots, that includes great guys like Gregg, Tim, a ton of contributors here, the staff that is just working their jobs there to pay bills, and even the moderators. That can't break those commandments. Geez, I hope it's spelled out that board members can't assault one another either.... Please note I saved a draft to repost if this one "mysterously disappears" Edited September 13, 2014 by keyser
Brett Barrow Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Moebius posted test shots of their Chrysler 300 here (and elsewhere, I assume). Kudos to them for that. And Moebius got it good here on this forum (and elsewhere, I would guess) regarding the screwed up "humped" roofline and other problems. From myself, and others. And you know what? They listened, they responded, and they fixed it. Before they released it. Kudos to them again. When a kit manufacturer acts like that, they deserve the "love fest" that follows. They got it from folks at iHobby when they showed the STL mockups, too. I think it would have been fixed whether they had shown it on the boards or not. And it still has some funkiness going on, the C pillars are thin and the roof kinda ramps up in the back. They made it better, though. Moebius has given us a little Inside Baseball look at the kit development process, but it looks like they're not really going to be doing that anymore, at least that's the gist I got from some things Dave has said, particularly in the Ford pickup thread. I think they're learning why the other companies keep things under wraps until they're a little further along.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 Yup, it's true, and it's the end run: calling a corporation "idiots", useless as it is, doesn't break any forum rules - so that's how you get your jab in without an explicit person-to-person attack. And i'm guessing by a similar rationale, calling groups of people "whiners", "rivet-counters", "crybabies", "no-lifers", "kit assemblers", and etc ad nauseam doesn't really break any forum rules either. Do I really need to explain where I'm going with that one? Which came first, and which still occurs with far greater regularity than the other? Look what's happening in this very discussion - even as the thread bends decisively in the direction of how inappropriate it is to call names, we get "Tamiya worshippers" slid right under our noses. Seems the doubleness of this standard could walk up and bend people hard over a barrel, and they STILL wouldn't acknowledge it. Ain't sayin' nobody would've ever leveled "idiots" at a manufacturer otherwise - but that kind of attitude sure facilitates it.
Brett Barrow Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 How about we just don't call anybody names?
Chuck Kourouklis Posted September 13, 2014 Posted September 13, 2014 1st: FUNNY. 2nd: sounds like a great idea to me...
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