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Art Anderson

Member Since 25 Aug 2008
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In Topic: AMT Parts Pack prices

Yesterday, 11:25 PM

lets document this:

 

>from people completely without a clue.

 

whom exactly do you mean by that, Art?

 

jb

William, just exactly that.  Many people have virtually no knowledge of what is involved in the design, tooling, production of anything plastic model kit related.  Frankly, just because a parts pack is smaller, has less product in it, does not necessarily translate into a "price" at any stage of the production/distribution/retailing pipeline that is anything comensurate on the basis of "it only has X% of the raw material/parts count as a regular model car kit".

 

For example, while a parts pack of just tires is released does not translate directly into massive sales just because everyone wants tires for their model kit.  Therefore, while there will be the potential for sales, the volume of sales would not be sufficient to cover the investment in tooling, raw materials, production, packaging and distribution IF the price were to be based on "tires are X% of the cost of a model car kit.  Were that to be a valid measurement of how much a parts pack of tires should sell for, then for gosh sakes, a fret of photoetched emblems & details ought to be about the price of a 1st class postage stamp, given the miniscule amount of material present in any PE detail set compared the the sheer volume of plastic in any model car kit.  Bottom line:  It just does not work that way, never has, and never will.

 

Art


In Topic: 1933 Duesenberg Boattail

Yesterday, 07:45 PM

This is the Entex 1/16 scale Duesenberg Boattail... a very exclusive, high-end car in its day. It cost about $15-20,000 at a time when a doctor made maybe $3,000 a year. Obviously it wasn't seen in the garage of Joe Average!

 

The ebay seller was asking $100 OBO. I offered $80, and he accepted. This is the kit:

 

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I don't know what color scheme I want to go with, except that I do know I don't want to go with the black/white scheme on the box art. So any color scheme suggestions are welcome!

Well Harry, for exact accuracy, the real car is an ivory-shaded white and black.   There is one issue with the bodywork on this kit that you might want to address (I have the kit as well), and that is the demarcation line between the colors--on the model kit it's an engraved, recessed groove, where on the actual car, the sheet metal that's painted black is actually slightly raised (perhaps a half-inch or so), around that "color sweep" of white.

 

The actual car is in the National Automobile Museum in Reno, Nevada--formerly the Harrah's Automobile Collection--it was originally owned by Capt. George Whittell of Lake Tahoe and Woodland CA--and that is how Whittell (who having bought SIX Duesenberg Model J's was Duesenberg Inc's single biggest customer!) had it painted.

 

Just my .$.02 worth.

 

Art


In Topic: AMT Parts Pack prices

Yesterday, 07:39 PM

 

Rick you are indeed Krazy. You provide no facts, only your own angry opinion that things are too expensive. But you cannot provide any numbers or evidence to support your position.

 

You can rant all you want that 'big mean corporations' are picking your pocket,  it's obvious that you don't know who you are talking about.  There are those of us in the hobby who have met and know the people behind Revell, Round 2 and Moebius. All of them are real model guys who are as excited about the hobby as we are. No corporate ghouls.  Knowing the integrity of those involved, as well as their intentions to provide us with new products, I trust their judgement and support them.

 

And yes, I stand behind my statement that if we don't buy the product, there won't be more in the future. If a company cannot make a profit on a product, it's only common sense that they won't repeat the mistake. Where you guys see buying the product at closeout in the clearance bin as a win for you, you don't understand that it's a major FAIL for the hobby. It means that somewhere in the supply chain, somebody lost their shirt on the product. And business can't afford to repeat that.

 

Personally I wouldn't be in the business of providing product to this market. Overall, we are known as cheap. It seems everyone is on the band wagon demanding better, more detailed kits and accessories, but when the manufacturers listen to us, we then retract back to "oh, I didn't mean I'd spend money on it."  Quite frankly if I was Round 2, I'd be doing detail kits for military modelers. They don't seem to have a problem paying for what they want.

 

And production costs are less expensive in China.  Some of that has resulted in better product. Cleaner castings, better chrome, small items individually taped for protection... all this involves labor that wasn't being done in the US.  We seem to forget that we'd get parts slammed in a box with scratched glass and flaky chrome.  And since it's been maybe 15-20 years since we sent production off shore, who is to say what kits would cost if we had continued to make them here?  Probably a lot more than we are paying now.

VERY well said, Tom!

 

And, FWIW, I was IN the hobby shop trade back in the early-mid 1960's when the likes of Revell, AMT, and Aurora all went "head over heels" making parts packs for us model car guys.  And, guess what?  I heard, over the counter, the same grousing and griping, from people completely without a clue.

 

Art


In Topic: paint booth

Yesterday, 03:32 PM

thanks Art, that sounds easy enough ,did you make yor booth, and do you know if the rattle can fumes would be flammable ? I use them a lot on car bodys instead of my airbrush

 

Ronnie

Ronnie,

 

Ever since the banning of CFC's about 30 years ago, aerosol cans have used either butane or propane as a propellant!  Both are highly flammable.

 

Art


In Topic: paint booth

Yesterday, 10:15 AM

Ronnie, 

 

An advantage of any spray booth will be if it can push the vapors (the smell) out of your house.  If you think of it, your clothes dryer more than likely has an exterior vent to it, particularly if it's a gas dryer, if for no other reason than to eliminate the carbon monoxide from the air you breathe indoors.

 

Now, an exterior vent need not require a hole saw to cut through the side of your house.  I use a plywood panel, cut to fit in the sash window in my model room (same width as the window frame, and it gets "trapped" between the window sill and the bottom of the window sash), with a hole cut in it for a 4" clothes dryer vent, which is connected to the back of my spray booth by means of an ordinary dryer hose.  It uses ordinary furnace filters to catch the overspray from either rattle cans or my airbrush. 

 

The result is:  No paint fumes inside (my apartment is the upstairs of a house, with two other apartments downstairs, all on the same common HVAC system) and no overspray paint "dust" either.

 

Art