Rob Hall Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) In '03, Walmart might have been a big deal to Revell...now days, Hobby Lobby is probably the single biggest NA retailer (in terms of volume) Revell or Round 2 would deal with.. Edited August 20, 2018 by Rob Hall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dshue76 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Pre Walmart there was very little in the way of internet sales or even mail order. Internet sales went up substantially in the Walmart era. Post Walmart there was a recession. I fail to see what effect losing Walmart had on Revell. I'm willing to bet that a lot of manufacturers wish for Walmart to drop sales of their product type across the board. As a manufacturer would you rather the market dictate your product range, quality, and retail price or would you rather one single retailer dictate your product range, product quality, wholesale price etc..? Yes if a Revell employee only knew of the product quantities shipped to Walmart as compared to quantities shipped to other retailers then they would "think" losing Walmart would devastate the company. But Walmart isn't an end user, therefore, the demand is still there for the product. It would be interesting to me to see a complete list of New Revell tooling(only of the type carried by Walmart) released in the 10 years prior to the Walmart era, new tooling released during the Walmart era as well as new tooling released post-Walmart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 9 hours ago, SfanGoch said: Steve, I attempted to PM you but keep getting a "404" error. I'll try to PM you and see if you can respond. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Nope. Same result attempting to respond as with trying to send one to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) I'll toss another stick in here.... US model kit pricing Edited August 21, 2018 by Luc Janssens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, SfanGoch said: Nope. Same result attempting to respond as with trying to send one to you. Just did a test with another member. He sent me a PM. I received his & responded minutes ago, but have yet to hear back. Feel free to email me if necessary Joe. Steve Edited August 21, 2018 by StevenGuthmiller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smhardesty Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Just did a test with another member. He sent me a PM. I received his & responded minutes ago, but have yet to hear back. Steve Yep, I got it just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 11 hours ago, Luc Janssens said: I'll toss another stick in here.... US model kit pricing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bert Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 yea the foose truck was so unwanted it was going for 100-150 on ebay as far as the caddy, what can I say,hmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, Bert said: yea the foose truck was so unwanted it was going for 100-150 on ebay as far as the caddy, what can I say,hmmm. I've been hearing the price thing about the Foose truck for a while. I think that we all realize that the reasoning for that is because Revell has basically stopped production at the moment and speculators are hoping that they do not resume so that they can get ridiculous prices for a kit which would then be considered rare. Those prices have very little to do with the popularity of the kit. It's pretty obvious that once Revell resumes production of that kit, which is highly likely if they get back on their feet, the prices will return to normal. Prices of a lot of Revell kits have taken a jump lately, it's not just the truck. Anybody that paid $150.00 for that kit will be taking a pretty big loss when they start selling for twenty some dollars again. The price you pay for taking a gamble. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Againmikewins Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 2 hours ago, StevenGuthmiller said: I've been hearing the price thing about the Foose truck for a while. I think that we all realize that the reasoning for that is because Revell has basically stopped production at the moment and speculators are hoping that they do not resume so that they can get ridiculous prices for a kit which would then be considered rare. Those prices have very little to do with the popularity of the kit. It's pretty obvious that once Revell resumes production of that kit, which is highly likely if they get back on their feet, the prices will return to normal. Prices of a lot of Revell kits have taken a jump lately, it's not just the truck. Anybody that paid $150.00 for that kit will be taking a pretty big loss when they start selling for twenty some dollars again. The price you pay for taking a gamble. Steve I just recently paid $80 for the '30 Ford Model A Coupe. I didn't realize how awesome of a kit it was until they were impossible to buy for a regular price. I searched for 18 months and finally found a brand new sealed kit (from China of course). It was WAYYYY more than I wanted to pay for it, but this was a couple months ago before any talk of possible production starting again in the future. I made up for it by selling a couple other "rare" Revell kits. The '29 Ford and the Caddy Lowrider made up for it. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
om617 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 On 20.8.2018 at 5:25 PM, dino246gt said: That old kit does have some funky proportions and no chassis, no open hood. I lengthened the front and since the body is multi-piece, I chose to add to the fender tops above the wheel opening, but to keep that opening in tact, I lengthened the lower body at the door to fender seam. I opened the hood and hinged it to flip forward, had to lengthen the hood as well, then added the Foose underhood stuff. I cut away the bottom and added the Foose floor pan, so the Foose chassis fits perfectly. Thanks for sharing pictures. Fantastic work. Curious but did you add between the door and fender also to lenghten the fender? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, Againmikewins said: I just recently paid $80 for the '30 Ford Model A Coupe. I didn't realize how awesome of a kit it was until they were impossible to buy for a regular price. I searched for 18 months and finally found a brand new sealed kit (from China of course). It was WAYYYY more than I wanted to pay for it, but this was a couple months ago before any talk of possible production starting again in the future. I made up for it by selling a couple other "rare" Revell kits. The '29 Ford and the Caddy Lowrider made up for it. ? Yup, there are a couple of the '30 Ford kits listed on ebay right now for well over $200.00! Another perfect example of people trying to get in a good "gouge" before Revell resumes production. I really hope that nobody is falling for this scam! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 58 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: Yup, there are a couple of the '30 Ford kits listed on ebay right now for well over $200.00! Another perfect example of people trying to get in a good "gouge" before Revell resumes production. I really hope that nobody is falling for this scam! Steve Good thing I got my copy when they were available at retail prices.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, Luc Janssens said: Good thing I got my copy when they were available at retail prices.. Some real gems there Luc! I have one of the '66 Bonnevilles & the '67 Ford. I also have a convertible version of the '66 Plymouth. Models that might actually be worth $200.00! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Just now, StevenGuthmiller said: Some real gems there Luc! I have one of the '66 Bonnevilles & the '67 Ford. I also have a convertible version of the '66 Plymouth. Models that might actually be worth $200.00! Steve Thanks, and yes indeed some of the annuals are getting way up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Againmikewins Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, Luc Janssens said: Good thing I got my copy when they were available at retail prices.. You've got some cool kits there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Luc Janssens said: Thanks, and yes indeed some of the annuals are getting way up there. And rightfully so. But to spend $200.00 on a new kit is just sheer stupidity! Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 1 hour ago, StevenGuthmiller said: And rightfully so. But to spend $200.00 on a new kit is just sheer stupidity! Steve People on the group like to gripe about how cheap car modelers are. I guess this the mark of a "real modeler" Personally, that's a little too real for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfanGoch Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I'm one of those gripers. I have no problem shelling out mazooma for a super detailed car kit with loads o' parts a la armor kits. However, I ain't dumping 200 bucks on what amounts to an unassembled promo, no matter how rare it is. I might like to own one; but, not at that kind of price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenGuthmiller Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 28 minutes ago, SfanGoch said: I'm one of those gripers. I have no problem shelling out mazooma for a super detailed car kit with loads o' parts a la armor kits. However, I ain't dumping 200 bucks on what amounts to an unassembled promo, no matter how rare it is. I might like to own one; but, not at that kind of price. I'm the opposite. I have no problem plunking down a fair amount of cash for a rare old kit if it is subject matter that I am interested in & something that is not available in a newer kit & probably never will be. For example, I'm not spending $150.00 on a vintage AMT '60 Ford Starliner because I can get the new one for $20.00. But I will, and have paid good money for a Johan '65 Chrysler 300 because if you want one, it's the only opportunity to build one, and chances are extremely high that there will never be another. I too will spend a "fair price" for a new kit if the kit warrants it, but to spend $100.00 to $200.00 on a kit that has just been released like the Foose '56 Ford is just pure foolishness! The amount of detail, or the parts count is of little interest to me. It's all about subject matter. You can always add as much detail as you would like. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Can-Con Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 42 minutes ago, StevenGuthmiller said: I'm the opposite. I have no problem plunking down a fair amount of cash for a rare old kit if it is subject matter that I am interested in & something that is not available in a newer kit & probably never will be. For example, I'm not spending $150.00 on a vintage AMT '60 Ford Starliner because I can get the new one for $20.00. But I will, and have paid good money for a Johan '65 Chrysler 300 because if you want one, it's the only opportunity to build one, and chances are extremely high that there will never be another. I too will spend a "fair price" for a new kit if the kit warrants it, but to spend $100.00 to $200.00 on a kit that has just been released like the Foose '56 Ford is just pure foolishness! The amount of detail, or the parts count is of little interest to me. It's all about subject matter. You can always add as much detail as you would like. Steve My thinking exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brett Barrow Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 18 hours ago, Luc Janssens said: Good thing I got my copy when they were available at retail prices.. Buy it when you see it because it might not be there tomorrow is my motto. Unfortunately I didn't get a Foose FD-100 when I had the chance and I'm not paying $70 on eBay. Heck, I don't pay retail anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brett Barrow said: Heck, I don't pay retail anyway Yeah rub it in Brett Edited August 22, 2018 by Luc Janssens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Handley Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 31 minutes ago, Luc Janssens said: Yeah rub it in Brett I used to have that ability for a long time too! Now it only happens if I go to Michaels or Hobby Lobby.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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