Deuces Posted October 12, 2019 Share Posted October 12, 2019 Why?????...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slusher Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 On 10/4/2019 at 6:41 PM, StevieB said: The two Model A kits, (coupe & roadster), have been announced as returning in 2020, hopefully as soon as the 1st or 2nd quarter, depending on how long the tooling repair takes them. This. Is a blessing to me if it happens because I want 30 coupe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted October 21, 2019 Share Posted October 21, 2019 In one of my posts on this thread I mentioned that a San Francisco Cable Car was made by Hawk. I did not say in that thread that it was bad, but merely that I could remember Hawk making this particular kit. In fact I can remember making their little Cable Car way back in the sixties when it first came out and it was a very nice kit but cannot remember the scale. I think that it may have been re released by Testors? I have a feeling that they ran a few of the old Hawk kits as re pops. If only I could get hold of the cable car now and perhaps do it more justice as it is quite an iconic subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSNJim Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Lindberg released a 1/25 San Francisco Cable Car a few years back. I assume it's the old Hawk; I think Lindberg bought Hawk a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/9/2019 at 11:37 AM, Jon Cole said: Well, if it's a rumor, maybe you should take it up with the hobby shops? They seem to think it is credible info. I took this photo myself just about six weeks ago at a well stocked hobby shop in New England. I'm sorry, what were you folks saying about "Basically same rumors like "Testors paints pulled off market" "Hobby dying" nonsense here for years. LOL. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niteowl7710 Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 If you think that's real, then I know a "Holy Missionary" who needs to rent his beautiful home to someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I just sent a request for information to Rustoleum's help & support page, for clarification on this matter. I don't know if they will respond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drodg Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 That is sad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Porter Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I've forwarded the flyer to my primary Testors wholesale source and he's in touch with his Testors rep. Hopefully we can get some confirmation. This is the sort of thing that festers in the absence of a concrete statement from the manufacturer coupled with poor availability of product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 found on another page: “I contacted Rustoleum customer service, and here's the deal: This is *only* for international (i.e. non-US) distribution. The Testors lines remain very much operational and will continue to be distributed in the U.S. Which, for me, is very welcome news, as Testors is my go-to for enamels (I'm not a fan of acrylics).” In other news, tonight's menu consist's entirely of crow. I don't mind the embarrassment, as long as we get to the bottom of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I didn't see anything about clearance sales on my last visit to the LHS, so I'm guessing sales to Canada are still happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spruslayer Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 I read that as their only stopping international distribution. "It is with a heavy heart that we must pass along sad news regarding the discontinuance of Testors Brand Corporation product brands to all our international friends ans associates" "Rust-oleum has informed us that it will no longer accept or ship any further Testors brand orders overseas after November 2019" Not that i use a ton of their stuff, i think they will still sell in the USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Cole Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Jon Cole said: I just sent a request for information to Rustoleum's help & support page, for clarification on this matter. I don't know if they will respond. RESPONSE: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Austin Posted October 25, 2019 Share Posted October 25, 2019 The venerable Hawk cable car kit is 1:48 scale, despite what some boxes might say. It's fun to note the different box art over the years, mirroring the prototype's changing paint schemes. It builds into a nice model. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Brian, 1/48th sounds about right, as I recollect the Hawk kit that I built being a lot smaller than 1/24th scale as a previous poster thought. There is a Spanish company named OCCRE who makes a SF Cable Car kit in 1/24th scale along with a range of other tram kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trendsetta68 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I know that I'm late to this ... but I don't understand why it takes 100,000 to make a tool ... is the licensing the big part of it ? The material cost ? The overhead ? IDK I understand that some of the wish list subjects are risky and that could be a drawback from developing new tools. I'm sending out a big wish on dandelion fuzz , but I wish that some of the big car guys in the automotive industry / world could help us out some how ... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeE Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Trendsetta68 said: I know that I'm late to this ... but I don't understand why it takes 100,000 to make a tool ... is the licensing the big part of it ? The material cost ? The overhead ? IDK I understand that some of the wish list subjects are risky and that could be a drawback from developing new tools. I'm sending out a big wish on dandelion fuzz , but I wish that some of the big car guys in the automotive industry / world could help us out some how ... ??? This has literally been discussed tons of times on this forum. Try search, Boolean search is your friend. It's more than 100k, and it's the tool, the design, etc. Read the thread maybe too, if you can get thru it. Big car companies sell big cars. They. Don't. Care. They license. That's discussed tons of times too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Bartrop Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, Trendsetta68 said: I know that I'm late to this ... but I don't understand why it takes 100,000 to make a tool ... is the licensing the big part of it ? The material cost ? The overhead ? IDK Making injection moulds is a labour intensive process requiring skilled i.e. expensive labour. Just to give you some idea of what's involved, back in '95 I got involved with a friend's project to make and market a science fiction themed boardgame. The idea was that the game pieces would be cards that clip into a little plastic stand. Cutting a set of moulds for that little clip ended up costing about 12 grand in 1995 dollars, so I have no doubt that the moulds for something like a model kit will run into some serious coin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modelbuilder Mark Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, Richard Bartrop said: Making injection moulds is a labour intensive process requiring skilled i.e. expensive labour. Just to give you some idea of what's involved, back in '95 I got involved with a friend's project to make and market a science fiction themed boardgame. The idea was that the game pieces would be cards that clip into a little plastic stand. Cutting a set of moulds for that little clip ended up costing about 12 grand in 1995 dollars, so I have no doubt that the moulds for something like a model kit will run into some serious coin. Yikes, may have been more financially feasible to re-purpose already made clip stands, like those for name placards at weddings etc. Seems crazy the cost to cut something like that. I would think 3d imaging would make creating a master much easier these days, but that is indeed just speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc Janssens Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 hours ago, Trendsetta68 said: I know that I'm late to this ... but I don't understand why it takes 100,000 to make a tool ... is the licensing the big part of it ? The material cost ? The overhead ? IDK I understand that some of the wish list subjects are risky and that could be a drawback from developing new tools. I'm sending out a big wish on dandelion fuzz , but I wish that some of the big car guys in the automotive industry / world could help us out some how ... ??? Back when the tooling was still done in North America, Modern tool quoted 250K to create the tooling for the Pro-Modeler '69 Charger. Shortly after that all model companies went to China to save costs, and $100,000 is a number I've heard a few times these past years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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