I think it all boils down to ones ability and resources. Many of us older or younger ones are still learning and many have budget issues too. I am sure all of us wish we could do better with them than the last one...I know I do its like we think there never meet our expectations or wishes always wanting them to be more. I am amazed at some of our handicap builders here that have issues with their hands...some of them are outstanding looking. I have been building all my life and still need to learn many things myself....black washing grilles...foiling...flocking..etc. We all strive for better.