Bill I'm a learner I love to learn! In fact there are a lot of guys on here you included Bill that I look for your responses to questions because I know you have done your research. Please correct my if I am wrong!! I look forward to getting the right info. A bit off subject but today I spent well over an hour on wiki and other sources reading about fisher bodies and how they became a part of GM. Then that leads me another subject and etc. etc. etc. I guess it all comes down to the type of person the info is coming from.