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1936 Toyota AA, the first production automobile for the company. I see a pattern developing here -- S600 the first mass produced Honda, now this car.

Parts of this kit will probably be "blown up" from the 1/35 Toyota "Phaeton" AB military kit they did a few years back, as the main difference between the two is the AA is a steel roofed car vs. the open top of the AB.

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Are Dad and I seeing things, or does that look like a Chrysler Airflow?

And this would be why........

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AA

I have a book put out by Toyota talking about the cars in their museum. One of the cars there is a reproduction of Toyota AA. They could not find an original, so they decided built a new one using the original blueprints. They do have an original AB in their colletion. But back to the AA. Toyota openly admits the chassis and engine are copies of the contemporary Chevrolet of the time. And the body design was copied from the Chrysler Airflow.

Scott

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Looks like a great one here .. thou I'm a bit disappointed there seems to be an engine missing. What's with the Japanese and no engines .. outside looks are all that matters I guess.

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Looks like a great one here .. thou I'm a bit disappointed there seems to be an engine missing. What's with the Japanese and no engines .. outside looks are all that matters I guess.

Generally, yes. Most model companies that aren't in the U.S., are more concerned with the car/truck actually looking like the subject than other mechanicals not as noticeable.

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Generally, yes. Most model companies that aren't in the U.S., are more concerned with the car/truck actually looking like the subject than other mechanicals not as noticeable.

I have to agree with this, and I would rather a model company focus more on the actual subject and getting it correct , I mean, sure, engines are nice, but if the rest of the model is not accurate.

Edited by martinfan5
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HMMM-conversion material for an Airflow or perhaps a circa 1935 Nash Lafayette .

If it's indeed true about the mechanicals copied from a contemporary Chevy,the AMT '37 Chevy can provide a close appearing drive train.

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You would actually need the MPC/AMT '32 Chevy to convert the engine from. The "207" engine mentioned in the article would be the first generation Chevrolet 6, 1928-1936, and is completely different from the 1937-1953 engine.

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HMMM-conversion material for an Airflow or perhaps a circa 1935 Nash Lafayette .

If it's indeed true about the mechanicals copied from a contemporary Chevy,the AMT '37 Chevy can provide a close appearing drive train.

I don't know about that Nash. Maybe from the cowl back but the front is way different. Now about that first Datsun, Tamiya?

Edited by lordairgtar
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I don't know about that Nash. Maybe from the cowl back but the front is way different. Now about that first Datsun, Tamiya?

You mean the Nissan 70 aka Graham Crusader?

nissan70.jpg

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Are Dad and I seeing things, or does that look like a Chrysler Airflow?

And this would be why........

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AA

IIRC Toyota built Chrysler cars under license. Therefoe there is a very good chance that the AA was based on one of Chrysler's Airflow models. But as far as we, modelers, are concerned, it does not make difference whether they copied them legally or not, rather, our primary concern is they copied them accurately to do our conversion :P :P

Edited by khier
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There was an AA found in Eastern Russia. It was quite cobbled up with parts from various Russian and European cars. People were wondering if it was indeed an AA. A lot of people said it was an Airflow, others said an Opel Admiral. It did look like some of the body resembled an Airflow. I myself studied the pictures and decided it was an actual AA from Toyoda that someone had modified with other cars to keep it running and in use. It had some kind of truck frame under it, but that body sure held some of the lines of the AA which are slightly different from an Airflow.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/1936_Toyota_Model_AA.jpg?download

You mean the Nissan 70 aka Graham Crusader?

nissan70.jpg

Yes, that's the one.

Edited by lordairgtar
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I have a book put out by Toyota talking about the cars in their museum. One of the cars there is a reproduction of Toyota AA. They could not find an original, so they decided built a new one using the original blueprints. They do have an original AB in their colletion. But back to the AA. Toyota openly admits the chassis and engine are copies of the contemporary Chevrolet of the time. And the body design was copied from the Chrysler Airflow.

Scott

The engine was indeed copied from the Chevrolet 6, but I believe the chassis copied the Ford type of the day. Remember that Ford had no IFS like Chevy did in 1934. (Top line Chevy used a solid front axle) The pic from Tamiya clearly shows a solid front axle.

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Remember that Ford had no IFS like Chevy did in 1934. (Top line Chevy used a solid front axle)

Other way around. The Standard Passenger and Master Trucks were solid axle, the Master Passenger cars were Knee Action IFS. Also, note that the Toyota has parallel leaf springs, like the Chevrolet. Ford used a transverse leaf spring.

Edited by Longbox55
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Thanks for the clarification, longbox55. The old brain is getting tired and is confused sometimes. I usually verify with a quick Google but I relied on my memory instead.

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The engine was indeed copied from the Chevrolet 6, but I believe the chassis copied the Ford type of the day. Remember that Ford had no IFS like Chevy did in 1934. (Top line Chevy used a solid front axle) The pic from Tamiya clearly shows a solid front axle.

But the Toyoda chassis has parallel leaf springs front and rear. Ford never used a setup like that on its cars. Chevrolet used solid front axles on their lower-line cars well into the Thirties.

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But the Toyoda chassis has parallel leaf springs front and rear. Ford never used a setup like that on its cars. Chevrolet used solid front axles on their lower-line cars well into the Thirties.

Longbox55 already corrected my post and I responded to it. No need to hit me again.

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