martinfan5 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 Another new tool from Tamiya this year is the Toyota AA Type from the mid 1930's , release date is set for June, and the price is around 3000yen, you can pre order now from Hobby Search, HLJ has not listed it yet. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10321831
charlie8575 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 I'm in for one of these. Very cool. Charlie Larkin
niteowl7710 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 1936 Toyota AA, the first production automobile for the company. I see a pattern developing here -- S600 the first mass produced Honda, now this car. Parts of this kit will probably be "blown up" from the 1/35 Toyota "Phaeton" AB military kit they did a few years back, as the main difference between the two is the AA is a steel roofed car vs. the open top of the AB. Also now available for HLJ pre-order -- http://www.hlj.com/product/TAM24339/Aut
mike 51 Posted April 15, 2015 Posted April 15, 2015 YES! I want one of those...too. There's a brief report on the "new" one that Toyota made on Leno's site.
Bennyg Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Wow. Tamiya is doing more this year for car people than they have in the last few years. Great stuff. Ben
Joe Handley Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Are Dad and I seeing things, or does that look like a Chrysler Airflow? And this would be why........ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AA Edited April 16, 2015 by Joe Handley
unclescott58 Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Are Dad and I seeing things, or does that look like a Chrysler Airflow? And this would be why........http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AA I have a book put out by Toyota talking about the cars in their museum. One of the cars there is a reproduction of Toyota AA. They could not find an original, so they decided built a new one using the original blueprints. They do have an original AB in their colletion. But back to the AA. Toyota openly admits the chassis and engine are copies of the contemporary Chevrolet of the time. And the body design was copied from the Chrysler Airflow. Scott
johnbuzzed Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Does that "AA" come with batteries... (you know, AA's...)
Foxer Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Looks like a great one here .. thou I'm a bit disappointed there seems to be an engine missing. What's with the Japanese and no engines .. outside looks are all that matters I guess.
blubaja Posted April 16, 2015 Posted April 16, 2015 Looks like a great one here .. thou I'm a bit disappointed there seems to be an engine missing. What's with the Japanese and no engines .. outside looks are all that matters I guess. Generally, yes. Most model companies that aren't in the U.S., are more concerned with the car/truck actually looking like the subject than other mechanicals not as noticeable.
martinfan5 Posted April 16, 2015 Author Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Generally, yes. Most model companies that aren't in the U.S., are more concerned with the car/truck actually looking like the subject than other mechanicals not as noticeable. I have to agree with this, and I would rather a model company focus more on the actual subject and getting it correct , I mean, sure, engines are nice, but if the rest of the model is not accurate. Edited April 16, 2015 by martinfan5
MPi-KM Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 Would make a cool street rod using Tamiya's Supra twin turbo 6 cyl .IMWO anyway.
ZTony8 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 HMMM-conversion material for an Airflow or perhaps a circa 1935 Nash Lafayette . If it's indeed true about the mechanicals copied from a contemporary Chevy,the AMT '37 Chevy can provide a close appearing drive train.
Longbox55 Posted April 17, 2015 Posted April 17, 2015 You would actually need the MPC/AMT '32 Chevy to convert the engine from. The "207" engine mentioned in the article would be the first generation Chevrolet 6, 1928-1936, and is completely different from the 1937-1953 engine.
lordairgtar Posted April 18, 2015 Posted April 18, 2015 (edited) HMMM-conversion material for an Airflow or perhaps a circa 1935 Nash Lafayette . If it's indeed true about the mechanicals copied from a contemporary Chevy,the AMT '37 Chevy can provide a close appearing drive train. I don't know about that Nash. Maybe from the cowl back but the front is way different. Now about that first Datsun, Tamiya? Edited April 18, 2015 by lordairgtar
ChrisBcritter Posted April 19, 2015 Posted April 19, 2015 I don't know about that Nash. Maybe from the cowl back but the front is way different. Now about that first Datsun, Tamiya? You mean the Nissan 70 aka Graham Crusader?
ZTony8 Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 Hmmm-maybe the '36 Lafayette.One of the two years is close.
khier Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) Are Dad and I seeing things, or does that look like a Chrysler Airflow? And this would be why........ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AA IIRC Toyota built Chrysler cars under license. Therefoe there is a very good chance that the AA was based on one of Chrysler's Airflow models. But as far as we, modelers, are concerned, it does not make difference whether they copied them legally or not, rather, our primary concern is they copied them accurately to do our conversion :P Edited April 20, 2015 by khier
lordairgtar Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 (edited) There was an AA found in Eastern Russia. It was quite cobbled up with parts from various Russian and European cars. People were wondering if it was indeed an AA. A lot of people said it was an Airflow, others said an Opel Admiral. It did look like some of the body resembled an Airflow. I myself studied the pictures and decided it was an actual AA from Toyoda that someone had modified with other cars to keep it running and in use. It had some kind of truck frame under it, but that body sure held some of the lines of the AA which are slightly different from an Airflow. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/10/1936_Toyota_Model_AA.jpg?download You mean the Nissan 70 aka Graham Crusader? Yes, that's the one. Edited April 20, 2015 by lordairgtar
lordairgtar Posted April 20, 2015 Posted April 20, 2015 I have a book put out by Toyota talking about the cars in their museum. One of the cars there is a reproduction of Toyota AA. They could not find an original, so they decided built a new one using the original blueprints. They do have an original AB in their colletion. But back to the AA. Toyota openly admits the chassis and engine are copies of the contemporary Chevrolet of the time. And the body design was copied from the Chrysler Airflow. Scott The engine was indeed copied from the Chevrolet 6, but I believe the chassis copied the Ford type of the day. Remember that Ford had no IFS like Chevy did in 1934. (Top line Chevy used a solid front axle) The pic from Tamiya clearly shows a solid front axle.
Longbox55 Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) Remember that Ford had no IFS like Chevy did in 1934. (Top line Chevy used a solid front axle) Other way around. The Standard Passenger and Master Trucks were solid axle, the Master Passenger cars were Knee Action IFS. Also, note that the Toyota has parallel leaf springs, like the Chevrolet. Ford used a transverse leaf spring. Edited April 21, 2015 by Longbox55
lordairgtar Posted April 21, 2015 Posted April 21, 2015 Thanks for the clarification, longbox55. The old brain is getting tired and is confused sometimes. I usually verify with a quick Google but I relied on my memory instead.
Mark Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 The engine was indeed copied from the Chevrolet 6, but I believe the chassis copied the Ford type of the day. Remember that Ford had no IFS like Chevy did in 1934. (Top line Chevy used a solid front axle) The pic from Tamiya clearly shows a solid front axle. But the Toyoda chassis has parallel leaf springs front and rear. Ford never used a setup like that on its cars. Chevrolet used solid front axles on their lower-line cars well into the Thirties.
lordairgtar Posted May 17, 2015 Posted May 17, 2015 But the Toyoda chassis has parallel leaf springs front and rear. Ford never used a setup like that on its cars. Chevrolet used solid front axles on their lower-line cars well into the Thirties. Longbox55 already corrected my post and I responded to it. No need to hit me again.
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