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Out of curiosity, why weren't the Grand Sport versions split windows as were the '63 production coupes?

I'm not a Grand Sport expert by any means - maybe someone who is can weigh in - but based what I've read, my guesses would be:

Zora Arkus-Duntov, who was heavily involved in the Grand Sport program, was not a fan of the split window. Maybe they already knew the split window was going away in '64? Also remember that the Grand Sport bodies were handbuilt, so they could do what they wanted with the body. Finally - and perhaps most likely and importantly, it was probably a little lighter - and they did everything possible to take weight off that car.

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I'm not a Grand Sport expert by any means - maybe someone who is can weigh in - but based what I've read, my guesses would be:

Zora Arkus-Duntov, who was heavily involved in the Grand Sport program, was not a fan of the split window. Maybe they already knew the split window was going away in '64? Also remember that the Grand Sport bodies were handbuilt, so they could do what they wanted with the body. Finally - and perhaps most likely and importantly, it was probably a little lighter - and they did everything possible to take weight off that car.

All possibilities.  

One would think though that they'd want the racing cars to be relatively similar body wise to the ones on the dealer's lots - racing success to translate into, among other things, street car sale success.

The absence of the "split window" was a significant difference - racing vs production model...

 

 

 

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According to Friedman's book: "All windows except for the front windshield were made of plexiglass as well, and Design chief Bill Mitchells prized split rear window divider was let go too - in the interest of weight savings as well as visibility."

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  • 2 weeks later...
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Have you had a chance to work on this one Steve?

Thanks for asking. I'm always got a few models going at once, so progress may seem slow. I've been working on the engine for the Grand Sport - I should have something to show pretty soon!

  • 4 weeks later...
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Some progress: the engine is finished! Mostly out of the bow with a few tweaks. I wired the distributor and added some plug boots.

299 Grand Sport engine

Made a bypass hose for the water pump. There is a fuel block and lines included in the kit but that part isn't mentioned in the instructions. Looked like it would be a tough fit anyway, so I made my own.

298 Grand Sport engine

Headers are also from HRM - supposedly they fit better that the kit items. Right side header is just temporarily pinned on.

296 Grand Sport engine

Next, I'll try to drop this into the chassis and report back soon. Fuel and oil lines will get hooked up later.

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According to Chevrolet Grand Sport, page 17: "... and Design chief Bill Mitchell's prized split rear window divider was let go too-in the interest of weight savings as well as visibility."

I would be glad to share any other info from the book if anyone needs it.  An excellent reference.

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Engine successfully fitted into the chassis and the headers attached.

377 engine in chassis

382 engine in chassis

I had to re-work the steering box a little. It's a tight fit in there, just like the real thing. Oil lines will get hooked up later.

 

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I'm not a Grand Sport expert by any means - maybe someone who is can weigh in - but based what I've read, my guesses would be:

Zora Arkus-Duntov, who was heavily involved in the Grand Sport program, was not a fan of the split window. Maybe they already knew the split window was going away in '64? Also remember that the Grand Sport bodies were handbuilt, so they could do what they wanted with the body. Finally - and perhaps most likely and importantly, it was probably a little lighter - and they did everything possible to take weight off that car.

GM killed the Grand Sport program before Zora could build enough to meet racing rules

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Wow, i just caught thtis.

This is one SERIOUS build WOW.  I have this kit after seeing yours will wait on it for good loooong time :)

 

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Just like Aurfalien, who posted above, I just clicked on this thread.  Really nice work going on here, Steve.  I'll be following along as you go.  I'm looking forward to your updates.

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This may sound like a silly question, but in your pic of the interior it looks like a tail light mounted to the rollbar.  What was this for?  Beautiful build thus far by the way.  

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This may sound like a silly question, but in your pic of the interior it looks like a tail light mounted to the rollbar.  What was this for? 

Yes, it is an early version of the "third brake light" we've all come to know. According to the instructions, this was a feature on the Grand Sport. Of course, I read the instructions only after I had carefully sanded it off (thinking it was some kind of mold tab) and so I had to re-do it with a piece of aluminum tubing and a drop of metallic red paint.

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Out of curiosity, why weren't the Grand Sport versions split windows as were the '63 production coupes?

Not a single part of the body is stock. The inner structure is aluminum and not steal. The fiberglass is thinner all to save weight and Zora hated the split window.

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