Brudda Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 A friend of mine just gave me a cool kit. Is it hard to find?
Mr mopar Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Yes it's hard to find, but if you do want it you can mail it to me .........LOL I hope Round 2 finds the mold for I really would like one.
pharoah Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Yes it's hard to find, but if you do want it you can mail it to me .........LOL I hope Round 2 finds the mold for I really would like one.LOL indeed. A friend of mine has been wanting one of those for years. But he doesn't want to get a loan to buy one.
Daddyfink Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 (edited) Nope, those things are everywhere and super cheap. I will do you a favor, send it to me and I will give you $10 for it. And only because I am a nice guy! LOL! But seriously, you owe that friend some lunch! Edited February 28, 2017 by Daddyfink
High octane Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Those Indy Turbine Cars are hard to find and I've seen them go for $200+ if you're lucky to find one.
Miatatom Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Nope, those things are everywhere and super cheap. I will do you a favor, send it to me and I will give you $10 for it. And only because I am a nice guy! LOL! But seriously, you owe that friend some lunch! Daddyfink, you beat me to it but I'll give $15 and pay the shipping. It's so sad when people unload their worthless stuff onto unsuspecting hobbyists.
bbowser Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Great find! I've been looking for years for an unmolested kit in my price range (cheap ). I've picked up a couple of glue bombs to refurbish instead. I saw the real thing on the track in 1967 during time trials. It was so eerie, all you could hear were the tires on the pavement (which are surprisingly loud BTW).
kitbash1 Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Last one on Ebay sold for $120.I know, I bought it.
Dave Van Posted February 28, 2017 Posted February 28, 2017 Not only worthless but DANGEROUS.........turbine fumes are harmful.....send it to me....I'll risk it!!!!
Brudda Posted March 1, 2017 Author Posted March 1, 2017 The friend is not really into modeling. He actually gave me 2 kits and this is the other one
Brudda Posted March 1, 2017 Author Posted March 1, 2017 Thank you guys as I am only a few years into modeling and do not know the value or the rareity of old kits.
unclescott58 Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 The friend is not really into modeling. He actually gave me 2 kits and this is the other one Two treasures (3?). There are a few problems with the both the Mark IV and the trailer. But, I like them both. I never had a chance to own or built the Indy Turbine, but I've always wanted to. Have fun. I envy you. Scott
Edsel-Dan Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 I love that trailerHave 1 to finishWish they would hurry up and re-issue it!!!Wish the turbine was in 1/25 instead of 1/20!!
Phirewriter Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 (edited) Your MK IV GT40 is a great score too. It's unfortunate that it was butchered into a terrible kit car. Edited March 1, 2017 by Phirewriter
lordairgtar Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 I had that Mark IV and Trailer kit still sealed. Got it cheap myself then sold at swap meet for $100 about a year ago.
unclescott58 Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Your MK IV GT40 is a great score too. It's unfortunate that it was butchered into a terrible kit car.Butchered how? I'm assume you talking about the Hardcastle and McComick version of the kit. Did they ruin that kit in any other way, other than the body? I wonder if the dies for the Mark IV (or the J car for that matter) are still around, and we could see the kit(s) come back? Scott
Phirewriter Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 The Hardcastle and McComick car was a permanent change to the mold. In typical MPC fashion the kit started life as the J Car, was changed to the MK IV and then to the Coyote. In addition to the body numerous changes to the chassis and interior parts and glass where made to accommodate the bodywork. Unless the powers that be at Round 2 are willing to spend the coin for a retool, I don't think we'll see the MK IV out any time soon.
Art Anderson Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Back to the original topic here: I was working as the plastic model kits buyer for a very large hobby shop here in Lafayette IN, when the "Silent Sam" STP Turbine kit came out. Two issues with this kit at that time: 1) It was in what I call a "Bastard" scale, that being 1/20 scale--none of MPC's 1/20 scale attempts back then really kicked the cash registers into overdrive--most kids (the bulk of the market back then) walked right past 1/20th!), and 2) This kit is incredibly complicated, even for its day--and we had constant complaints about the hollow PVC tires being mis-shapen--and that was an issue with MPC and their hollow tires a lot back then (and MPC wasn't very polite when a modeler called them on it --I know that from personal experience!).A sidebar issue was in just how to paint the model accurately! Beginning with Bobby Unser's 1964 4WD STP Novi, the ever-flamboyant Andy Granitelli insisted on "Day-Glo Red" for the body color. Now, to paint dayglo colors and get them bright--first you paint the body panels white, then day-glo red (back then, about the only dayglo red was Krylon lacquer, which was very "hot", and would wrinkle any paint a younger builder might use, not to mention crazing the plastic!), followed by a couple of coats of gloss coear (the real STP cars were painted in this 3-step method back then, with the noses, and frequently the entire car repainted--some panels, particularly the nose cones, being stripped and repainte NIGHTLY due to both chipping from track debris and sun-fading).A very good gauge of how popular (or unpopular) any model car kit is, is if it ever made it to multiple production runs--and this one did not, apparently, as wholesalers were still trying to unload their stocks of this one into the early 1970's!IF it had been done in 1/25 scale, I suspect that there would have been multiple production runs in 1968 (when it was released) and more than likely, a few reissues over the years.Art
unclescott58 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Art, I'm sure your comments above are right on, for when the kit was new. But, how about today? The scale is still not my favorite. But, the subject is interesting enough that I would ad one to collection today. But, when this kit was first out I didn't have as much interest in as I have now. My tastes have changed. My budget has changed. I've grown up, a little. And that maybe true for the rest of the market today too. Do I think the Indy Turbine would be a big hit today? I doubt it. But, I do think there are a few of us who would go for one now. Scott
Phirewriter Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I agree with Scott, I'm no scale snob and base my purchases on subject matter. Would I like a 1/25 version to go with my wedge turbine, sure but I would love to have a reissue of the 1/20 version since I can't bring myself to dig into my MIB kit.
Art Anderson Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Art, I'm sure your comments above are right on, for when the kit was new. But, how about today? The scale is still not my favorite. But, the subject is interesting enough that I would ad one to collection today. But, when this kit was first out I didn't have as much interest in as I have now. My tastes have changed. My budget has changed. I've grown up, a little. And that maybe true for the rest of the market today too. Do I think the Indy Turbine would be a big hit today? I doubt it. But, I do think there are a few of us who would go for one now. Scott The question might be: "How obscure would this subject be today? Sure, there are hundreds of us out here who would jump on a reissue, but it takes several thousand buyers of any reissued model kit to lay out the coin, if such a reissue is to be at all profitable. Along with that, if the tooling is still viable (that is, no inserts missing, no noticeable rust damage, all that sort of thing). That would be the two biggest question marks, were I the one having to make such a decision.Art
Mr mopar Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) well for sure I would buy one ! the old tired eyes seem to like bigger scale kits these days ,so why not get a crack at it ,I never had this kit ,let a loan seen one . Edited March 6, 2017 by Mr mopar
Brett Barrow Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 Now 1/25th is the bastard scale for Indy/Formula 1 and 1/20 is the established scale. Was this the first 1/20th open wheeler?
Phirewriter Posted March 6, 2017 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) I thought Tamiya didn't start with their 1/20 F-1 kits until the mid 70's. So perhaps the Turbine is the first for this scale. It's the earliest 1/20 open wheel kit in my collection at least. The only other larger that 1/25 scale open wheel kits I have are some early Bandai, Nichimo and other odd makes but they're all bigger scale than 1/20th. Edited March 6, 2017 by Phirewriter
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