New kid on the block ?

[Greg Myers]

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[Luc Janssens]

If the due date is March, can't final shots and a box-art build be reproduced to, swing the online PR going redline?

Just wondering...

 

 

[1930fordpickup]

One would think that if they plan on selling for a march delivery they would have test shots in house by now. 

All that being said I wish all the best. I will purchase 1 or 2. 

 

[Robberbaron]

I'm certainly intrigued, but count me as another who would much rather have a factory stock 76/77 Cutlass (which I'm convinced would be a huge seller, for similar reasons as the Revell eighties Cutlasses).  Would I/will I buy one of these?  Not sure, need to wait and see how decent the final product turns out to be and the cost.

I agree that it seems impossibly optimistic to be saying March 2018 availability if they just started cutting metal for the tooling.  But then again, if this is all happening in America and all the characters are directly working with each other, maybe the timeline can be much quicker than the usual nonsense that goes on dealing with the Chinese on the other side of the world.

Look back at how quickly MPC used to get kits tooled up back in the seventies, and make yearly updates.  So it's not that it's physically impossible, just a question of staffing and how skilled is everyone involved (getting things right the first time does wonders for expediting the whole process).  We'll see soon enough.

Now, if they've just started cutting the actual tooling, the built model shown on their website must be either a 3D printed prototype, or a resin kit.  One thing that jumps out at me is that the rear bumper is wrong for a 76/77 Cutlass coupe.  The ends are clearly the 74/75 style, though that style also has a license plate opening that the bumper on the display model doesn't have.

Bandit Resin makes a '77 Olds NASCAR body with an incorrect rear bumper that looks exactly like this, so I suspect that is what the display model actually is.  Let's hope the actual production kit has this detail correct, because that's the kind of thing that would be a deal-breaker for a lot of people.

Factory stock '77:

Factory stock '75:

Edited January 22, 2018 by Robberbaron

[Rob Hall]

10 hours ago, Robberbaron said:

 

Now, if they've just started cutting the actual tooling, the built model shown on their website must be either a 3D printed prototype, or a resin kit.  One thing that jumps out at me is that the rear bumper is wrong for a 76/77 Cutlass coupe.  The ends are clearly the 74/75 style, though that style also has a license plate opening that the bumper on the display model doesn't have.

Bandit Resin makes a '77 Olds NASCAR body with an incorrect rear bumper that looks exactly like this, so I suspect that is what the display model actually is.  Let's hope the actual production kit has this detail correct, because that's the kind of thing that would be a deal-breaker for a lot of people.

On another forum, someone speculated the prototype was a modified Franklin Mint Petty die cast..who knows, won't really know much until actual test shots are shown. 

Edited January 22, 2018 by Rob Hall

[Dave Van]

I have the Franklin Petty Olds....it is very different than the sample shown. I also have the JNJ, Bandit and SMH 77 Olds bodies.....all also different than shown. So I am not sure what they are showing......maybe a 3D print of their design files??

I really hope this come to be. But drawing to kit on shelf in 2 months would be a new record. GM signing off takes 3-4 months most of the time.....and this is after mold is finished and box art finished.  I've done work in the biz....it's a long slow process. 

These guys may have the talent and cash to pull it off.....but I feel they do not have a lot of experience navigating the biz.  

[Chris in Berwyn]

Let’s hope they know they need a GM license and approval!

[gbt216]

In the NASCAR universe (unquestionably, a valid and significant market), this is a great first salvo if done accurately (i.e. corrected rear bumper); the price point is fine - however, count me in as a factory stock fan who'd love to convert it to the Cutlass S he drove back in the day!

gt 

[Chris in Berwyn]

The owner of Spotlight Hobbi s talked to these folks and says they are legit.  Apparently they’ve offered some other plastic models before. But not cars.  So we shall see!

[Chuck Most]

On 1/16/2018 at 5:29 PM, Greg Myers said:

My first thought was , it's not something I'm interested in, however, seeing a totally new entry in  kit manufacturing has to be good for all.

This.

On the other hand... maybe I'll buy one or two just to encourage them. Come on, you KNOW some decal printer will have graphics for the 43 Petty car within a few weeks of this kit's release.  

[PettyKW43]

Mike’s Decals Powerslide line already has them ! I want several of these kits to build several noteworthy cars from the period!

[socal76]

On 1/22/2018 at 7:34 AM, Rob Hall said:

On another forum, someone speculated the prototype was a modified Franklin Mint Petty die cast..who knows, won't really know much until actual test shots are shown. 

 

[Bill J]

One thing besides the rear bumper that is incorrect is the side of the car should have a crease running from front to rear fender well just above the centerline of the wheel. The pics of the street car sort of lose that due to the striping for the 442 markings that overwhelm  the side of the car. You can see it on the Junior Johnson owned Cutlass, it is present on the stock car and all the race cars in 1:1.Hard to see in most pics due to the paint schemes or the factory striping.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=JrpGUihD&id=1FD85C80D97BF6FC23546A5E294D74CF799BF3E4&thid=OIP.JrpGUihDvEuMmJ_iEGH1SQHaE7&mediaurl=http%3a%2f%2fstatic.sgv2.com%2fimg%2f193163%2faspect%2f700x500%2fcontent%2f1%2f1301032051405328-77_olds.jpg&exph=466&expw=700&q=77+olds+nascar&simid=608001585431646114&selectedIndex=3&ajaxhist=0

Also, the early issues of the Bandit Resin body did have the 75 style, incorrect bumper as shown on the "sample" car.

Edited January 31, 2018 by Bill J

[Scott - Elm City Hobbies]

On 1/30/2018 at 9:24 PM, PettyKW43 said:

Mike’s Decals Powerslide line already has them ! I want several of these kits to build several noteworthy cars from the period!

They have them on their "Coming Soon" list, but they don't actually have any of the kits, as they aren't due out until March.

[Jhedir6]

On 1/16/2018 at 5:25 PM, highway said:

For some, if it isn't something that interests them or above the price of a normal kit, they just think it is a waste of plastic. Myself, I like the fact it's something different, and the ones that already are putting it down means that there will just be more for those that are interested in older NASCAR. 

I couldnt agree with this more. Every time an old kit gets a re release some people fall over themselves about how great the kit is and how many they're gonna buy. Where as I look at it and think " piece of BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH then, piece of BLAH_BLAH_BLAH_BLAH now". But that's me, and I know I dont have the same opinion as others. Which is fine. This kit, doesnt interest me that much, its cool, but its not for me. But I hope this company succeeds in their first endeavour as they plan to release new NASCAR kits to follow, which I might be interested in. And should they succeed maybe they'll add more products to their line that you will like. 

[Luc Janssens]

IIRC Dave Burket of the Model King, did well with reissuing vintage oval track racer kits, so maybe the sales track record, lead the way to this endeavour.

 

 

[Scott - Elm City Hobbies]

Having talked to the crew at Salvinos today in hopes of getting some of these kits for my shop, I would have to say they are legit.

They have manufactured and sold sports figures on Ebay for quite sometime. So while this will be their first foray into the model car end of the spectrum, they aren't a flash in the pan, here today, gone tomorrow outfit.

Having talked to one of the owners, I can say that I am in, and their kits will show up in shop and on my website once they become available.  Molds are being cut, apparently running about 2 weeks behind at the moment and will likely be early April before the kits are out.

According to the guy I talked to, they already have orders for roughly 2500 kits. Everything is Made in the USA with the exception of the decals, which are made by Cartograph (and why not go with the world's best decal manufacturer?!)

I look forward to this kit, along with the subsequent others when they arrive.

Edited February 5, 2018 by Scott - Elm City Hobbies

[Sledsel]

If it is all made here, I will support them by getting one, more if it is nice. With any luck, the have fixed body and bumper inaccuracies. When it comes to "new" kits, this is totally unacceptable to me.

That all being said, what would everyone think if one of these became a kit also? Just wondering.

[unclescott58]

On 1/21/2018 at 9:27 PM, Robberbaron said:

I'm certainly intrigued, but count me as another who would much rather have a factory stock 76/77 Cutlass (which I'm convinced would be a huge seller, for similar reasons as the Revell eighties Cutlasses).  Would I/will I buy one of these?  Not sure, need to wait and see how decent the final product turns out to be and the cost.

I agree that it seems impossibly optimistic to be saying March 2018 availability if they just started cutting metal for the tooling.  But then again, if this is all happening in America and all the characters are directly working with each other, maybe the timeline can be much quicker than the usual nonsense that goes on dealing with the Chinese on the other side of the world.

Look back at how quickly MPC used to get kits tooled up back in the seventies, and make yearly updates.  So it's not that it's physically impossible, just a question of staffing and how skilled is everyone involved (getting things right the first time does wonders for expediting the whole process).  We'll see soon enough.

Now, if they've just started cutting the actual tooling, the built model shown on their website must be either a 3D printed prototype, or a resin kit.  One thing that jumps out at me is that the rear bumper is wrong for a 76/77 Cutlass coupe.  The ends are clearly the 74/75 style, though that style also has a license plate opening that the bumper on the display model doesn't have.

Bandit Resin makes a '77 Olds NASCAR body with an incorrect rear bumper that looks exactly like this, so I suspect that is what the display model actually is.  Let's hope the actual production kit has this detail correct, because that's the kind of thing that would be a deal-breaker for a lot of people.

Factory stock '77:

Factory stock '75:

The more I look at the above photos, the more skeptical I get about this model. The rear bumper alone is a reason I would pass on this kit. Somehow, I have a feeling this is being done on the cheap. I'm wondering if they mastered they're prototype off of a JoHan '75? Not knowing enough to change the rear bumper? 

Again since it's a NASCAR model, I guess the rear bumper doesn't really matter to me. I'm not interest in it unless it can be built as something I could have bought from my Olds dealer and driven on the street. My gut is telling me that this maybe a legit attempt of getting a new kit to market. But at what cost? Why does their prototype have an earlier year rear bumper? For they're first car kit, I'm unimpressed. I'm not holding my breath on anything beyond this kit. I have a feeling they really don't know what they're doing. Or have the wherewithal to do it right.

Its a shame. I'm hoping I'm wrong, and the kit turns out better than what we're seeing. And sells wells. Bring farther releases of stuff I would be interested in buying. Good luck to them. 

Edited February 4, 2018 by unclescott58

[MrObsessive]

Nice looking model for a first effort, but I'd REALLY REALLY love to see a 1976-77 version of this..................

One of my favorite cars of the '70's and this exact car WAS my Driver's Ed car, so there's some nostalgia in it for me.

[Sledsel]

13 minutes ago, MrObsessive said:

Nice looking model for a first effort, but I'd REALLY REALLY love to see a 1976-77 version of this..................

One of my favorite cars of the '70's and this exact car WAS my Driver's Ed car, so there's some nostalgia in it for me.

For some reason, there is not a lot available from the mid to late 70's in kit form. I think this era could yield a variety of great kits, the Cutlass, Grand Prix. Monte Carlo, Malibu, ElCamino, Ranchero, Thunderbird, Cougar. Montego. Even Lincolns or Caddys. Tons of options and most brands share chassis and interior pieces with each other.

 

[russosborne]

First, I hope they succeed. Can't hurt to have more companies making kits.

I also hope they do some older Nascar stuff. I am not a Nascar builder, but would love some of the 60's to early 70's race cars. Personally I just have no interest in most cars period past about 1972. Especially mid/late 70's and newer GM products. Never have been a fan of those bodies. Even the later Fords aren't so hot to me.

Russ