Greg Myers Posted March 1, 2018 Author Posted March 1, 2018 What does this have to do with Crosleys ?
Art Anderson Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Greg Myers said: The Shelby Connection https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2011/12/21/ask-a-hemmings-editor-did-carroll-shelby-buy-the-cobra-name-and-logo-from-crosley-for-1/ Uh, why? The Cobra name, as used by Crosley, disappeared from commerce with the closing of Crosley's automotive production in the very early 1950's, meaning that the name "Cobra" was no longer "in commerce", and in fact, Crosley had, by 1962, gotten pretty much out of all their businesses by then. FWIW, "COBRA" as used by Crosley, referred to the original 4-cyl engine used in Crosley cars, which cylinder block was fabricated from heavy sheet steel, as opposed to being cast iron (as in later Crosleys), which was Copper Brazed, hence the name "COBRA" being a company acronym for that earlier, and rather unreliable sheet-metal unit, derived from a WW-II pilotless target drone for training anti-aircraft gunners. At any rate, by the time Shelby got going with his Cobra sports car, the term COBRA as used by Crosley, was long "out of commerce". Art Edited March 1, 2018 by Art Anderson
unclescott58 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) I'm sure I've mentioned this before. But here is a little Crosley club humor. Looking at Crosley's emblem, you'll notice four birds. Do you know what those birds represent? The pigeons who were suckered in to buying Crosleys when they were brand new. Edited March 1, 2018 by unclescott58
unclescott58 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 (edited) And let's not forget, it's "A Fine Car." Fine for what? We don't know? Edited March 1, 2018 by unclescott58
Mike999 Posted March 1, 2018 Posted March 1, 2018 On 2/28/2018 at 1:27 PM, Ace-Garageguy said: PS: In a somewhat similar vein, does anybody know how well the Revell Offy and V8-60-powered midget race cars did? I'd think the Crosley would find its widest market with the guys who bought those. Here's a 2016 thread about the Midgets, with some interesting back-and-forth. It mentions that the kits didn't sell very well, and the people who pushed for them left Revell shortly after their release.
Maindrian Pace Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 Ever see one in real life? A 1:25 scale kit would look like a 1:32 scale kit.
Rob Hall Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 I saw a couple of them in Winslow, Az a few years ago. Very tiny...
Mercuryman54 Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Rob Hall said: I saw a couple of them in Winslow, Az a few years ago. Very tiny... I just heard a Eagles tune in my head!!! Dennis
Rob Hall Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 31 minutes ago, Mercuryman54 said: I just heard a Eagles tune in my head!!! Dennis I did see the flatbed Ford when I was there (though it's a stakebed Ford). Now that would make a great kit...
Mercuryman54 Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Rob Hall said: I did see the flatbed Ford when I was there (though it's a stakebed Ford). Now that would make a great kit... Yes would love to have a kit of that!!! Dennis
Greg Myers Posted March 2, 2018 Author Posted March 2, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, Art Anderson said: Uh, why? The Cobra name, as used by Crosley, disappeared from commerce with the closing of Crosley's automotive production in the very early 1950's, meaning that the name "Cobra" was no longer "in commerce", and in fact, Crosley had, by 1962, gotten pretty much out of all their businesses by then. FWIW, "COBRA" as used by Crosley, referred to the original 4-cyl engine used in Crosley cars, which cylinder block was fabricated from heavy sheet steel, as opposed to being cast iron (as in later Crosleys), which was Copper Brazed, hence the name "COBRA" being a company acronym for that earlier, and rather unreliable sheet-metal unit, derived from a WW-II pilotless target drone for training anti-aircraft gunners. At any rate, by the time Shelby got going with his Cobra sports car, the term COBRA as used by Crosley, was long "out of commerce". Art Tell that to the lawyers and by the way Art, very nice paraphrasing of the article i posted. Edited March 2, 2018 by Greg Myers
Casey Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 14 hours ago, Mercuryman54 said: Yes would love to have a kit of that!!! Me, too. Just the wheels, tires, and suspension pieces alone would be great to have in kit form. I've always liked the trucks with "work" level painted trim, too.
Ace-Garageguy Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Casey said: ... Just the wheels, tires, and suspension pieces alone would be great to have in kit form... Me three. I finally scored a set of unobtanium Modelhaus "medium duty" truck wheels and tires, and though very nice, they appear to be repops of larger OTR-truck parts originally tooled in 1/32. It would be nice to have a choice of heavier wheels, tires, axles, brakes, diffs and springs.
Casey Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Ace-Garageguy said: It would be nice to have a choice of heavier wheels, tires, axles, brakes, diffs and springs. I can't honestly tell if those are true vintage tires or re-pops of some sort ( I think the former?), but that truck has "it". You could fit at least, what, three Crosleys sideways on that bed?
misterNNL Posted March 2, 2018 Posted March 2, 2018 When I was in high school in the '50's one of my classmates father drove a Crosley wagon as a work car simply because it was small,cheap and got great gas mileage. My classmate Fred used the Crosley engines in race cars. I know of three parked togeather about 30 miles from here and easily visible from the road. I would build some of them simply because they're kind of neat and unique.
Tom Geiger Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 23 hours ago, Mercuryman54 said: Yes, Ray could be quite abrasive!! But at times I had talked at length with him and was perfectly cordial and pleasant. Dennis Ray was a character. He never had prices on his kits at shows. He had tables full of different kits, with the cars sitting in plastic bags on top of their boxes. So you had to ask how much for a specific model. By the third model you could see he was getting upset! Then one year he said he couldn't be a vendor at NNL East. Day of show, here comes Ray as a spectator. He had an armload of kits he gave us to use as door prizes and insisted on paying the admission fee. He was happy like he didn't have a care in the world. He told me he was concentrating on the eBay sales through his designated dealers, and that he could pour resin all day long and liked it, but it was the grind of traveling to shows and staying in hotels that wore him out. And unfortunately, he died shortly after that.
ChrisBcritter Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 (edited) From an old Craigslist ad. Cute as a bug's ear and almost as spacious : Break-in instructions: Hopefully some help for intrepid scratchbuilders! One of the prewar Crosleys showed up in Cuba, of all places, a couple years ago on revolico.com, but the ad didn't have pictures. Edited March 3, 2018 by ChrisBcritter
Chuck Most Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 My father owns a '47 Crosley, so I might buy one, but would 9,999 other modelers also want to buy one? Probably not. I wouldn't even hold out much hope for a less-obscure early American compact like a Nash Rambler, or a stock (or at least stock-ish) Henry J... or what about a Bantam? I mean I'd love to be proven wrong but I'm not holding my breath either.
misterNNL Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 15 hours ago, misterNNL said: When I was in high school in the '50's one of my classmates father drove a Crosley wagon as a work car simply because it was small,cheap and got great gas mileage. My classmate Fred used the Crosley engines in race cars. I know of three parked togeather about 30 miles from here and easily visible from the road. I would build some of them simply because they're kind of neat and unique. I dug around on the net and found a photo of a resin cast two door sedan body and hood so someone is offering one. Anyone know who ??
Casey Posted March 3, 2018 Posted March 3, 2018 2 hours ago, misterNNL said: I dug around on the net and found a photo of a resin cast two door sedan body and hood so someone is offering one. Anyone know who ?? Probably Fremont Racing Specialties? This pic is old, but IIRC Fremont has many/most of it's bodies back in production for at least a year or two now:
misterNNL Posted March 4, 2018 Posted March 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Casey said: Probably Fremont Racing Specialties? This pic is old, but IIRC Fremont has many/most of it's bodies back in production for at least a year or two now: That's the one I saw. Thanks for posting the source !
Oldcarfan27 Posted March 5, 2018 Posted March 5, 2018 On 3/3/2018 at 7:30 PM, Jon Cole said: This is the basic Crosley. IMHO. That's a kit? I had no idea. I saw 5 pounds of those models at my grocery store for 4 bucks! Anybody want to trade? LOL
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