News of Revell molding preparing in US

[jeffdeoranut]

just read on another forum that ATLANTIS MODELS have bought some of revells tooling...

[Rob Hall]

1 minute ago, jeffdeoranut said:

just read on another forum that ATLANTIS MODELS have bought some of revells tooling...

duplicate thread, covered here http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/134868-news-of-revell-molding-preparing-in-us/?page=9

Edited August 29, 2018 by Rob Hall

[jeffdeoranut]

Just now, Rob Hall said:

duplicate thread, covered here http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/topic/134868-news-of-revell-molding-preparing-in-us/?page=9

my bad

[Brett Barrow]

That’s awesome, Pete and Rick started the company I currently work for, MegaHobby, and I never worked for them directly I did work alongside them for a bit during the transition to the current owners that I work for. They sold MegaHobby in 2013 to focus exclusively on Atlantis.  They spent over a month down helping us transition here as we moved the company down from NY to NJ and taught us all the ropes of Internet retail which was something I had zero experience in. Pete knows, and I’m not exaggerating, where every piece of surviving vintage American model kit tooling is and who owns it and whether or not it’s still useable and if it is I guarantee you he’s trying to work out a deal to run it. I’m sure this is something they’ve been dreaming of for a while. 

[Phirewriter]

That's terrific news for those of us who build other subjects than cars. The most difficult part of this personally, is being patient while waiting to see what will be coming from this. Hopefully they will be able to run some of the Aurora tooled car kits is the molds still exist in serviceable shape. We've seen the Porsche 904 quite some time ago but I believe that was the last release of any of the Aurora stuff.

They did a acceptable Chaparral that's never been reissued to my knowledge. The 1/32 hot rod stuff would be cool too, again if the tooling still exists.

Edited August 29, 2018 by Phirewriter

[Mr mopar]

Dose this mean that some of the older Tom Daniel kits may come out?

[Dave Van]

Only those directly involved know what tooling was sold to Atlantis.......until they say, if they ever do, we'll not know. 

[Phirewriter]

Since Atlantis seems to be willing to run subject matter that's certainly more niche market, smaller runs, etc... I'm looking at this as a positive since I'm sure some subjects may have been passed on if the old Revell didn't see enough potential numbers by running them. The existence of tooling, their condition and the issues with licensing being the hurdles.

[GMP440]

Just read this on on Facebook.

http://culttvman.com/main/breaking-news-atlantis-buys-revell-toolings/

[ChrisBcritter]

Wow! That's gotta include the '62 Chrysler and '62 Plymouth, right? Now to find the Lancer, Valiant and Imperial...

[Brett Barrow]

A good chunk of their current product line is made from that old Revell-owned tooling, the Aurora DC-9, the Phantom & Witch Doctor,  Flash Gordon, Invaders UFO, the old Aurora T-Rex, etc. and was being produced for them by Revell through a licensing deal similar to how Model King used to do AMT/MPC models. 

[SfanGoch]

It's gonna be like 1965 again. I ain't complainin'', either.    

[stavanzer]

I am hoping Pete knows what happened to the Monogram Landrover tooling.  Chuck Most covers the kit well, on his website, but it is sad that nobody from Revell/Monogram would ever give a straight answer on the tool. Smart Money says it was scrapped, but I still hold out hope. After All, I never, ever thought I'd be able to swing by Hobbu Lobbu and purchase a Fresh, new ERTL Scout SSII Roadster kit. So, maybe there will be a surprise or two in store for Model Builders, in 2019, from Atlantis Models.

[MrObsessive]

10 hours ago, SfanGoch said:

It's gonna be like 1965 again. I ain't complainin'', either.    

Me neither!

This is way out wishful thinking, but could it be that the tooling for that '61 Chrysler Slant Six is out there? I have one, but wouldn't it be cool to see THAT back on the hobby shelves?? Problem is there aren't very many people under 45 that may even know what that is. But to us 'Boomers' that rode in Mopars that had 'em, they're unmistakable! In sound and in looks!

[Daddyfink]

Maybe this might put a rest on some of the rumors about possible long gone or existing tooling from the past. Train Wreck or not. 

[Casey]

40 minutes ago, Daddyfink said:

Maybe this might put a rest on some of the rumors about possible long gone or existing tooling from the past. Train Wreck or not. 

Ha!, not bloody likely. 

After reading Daves post...:

13 hours ago, Dave Van said:

Only those directly involved know what tooling was sold to Atlantis.......until they say, if they ever do, we'll not know. 

...I realized that while I'd love to know exactly what does and doesn't exist, maybe we're all better off not knowing. A little surprise is a nice thing to experience every now and then. 

14 hours ago, Phirewriter said:

Hopefully they will be able to run some of the Aurora tooled car kits is the molds still exist in serviceable shape. We've seen the Porsche 904 quite some time ago but I believe that was the last release of any of the Aurora stuff.

They did a acceptable Chaparral that's never been reissued to my knowledge. The 1/32 hot rod stuff would be cool too, again if the tooling still exists.

Revell-Monogram did reissue the ex-Aurora Ford GT kit in the late '90s, too.

[Phirewriter]

Yup, forgot about that one. Never picked one up since I had a couple of original kits. 

[Brett Barrow]

Some big and somewhat related news from JR/Salvino's: 

Very Big News!

You may have heard of some very big news from Atlantis Model Co. that they have purchased a considerable portion of the molds for Revell, Monogram, and some of the other Hobbico owned companies from Revell Germany that were stored in Revell’s Elk Grove, IL warehouse. Well we were fortunate enough to work out arrangements with Pete and Rick of Atlantis Model Co. and we are now the proud owners and guardians of the entire catalog of Revell and Monogram’s American made stock car molds from 1980 through the 1990s! In the very near future Salvinos J R Models will be adding these kits into our catalog with new drivers, new decals and some updated bodies to go on these platforms. Of course, these kits will not replace our original designs; we will continue to produce as many original Salvinos J R Models kits as we had previously planned, but these will be additional as we will continue to supply American made model kits to the collectors! We would very much like to thank Pete and Rick of Atlantis Model Co. for giving us this opportunity to serve the stock car model community of builders and keep this hobby growing. Don't forget we will be releasing our 1974 and 1977 original Monte Carlo designs in October and another new kit coming in December. If you haven’t yet, you should order your Donnie Allison Oldsmobile kits, we only have about 25% of the run left and we should be shipping about the third week of September. Thanks! Rick and Jim As always, like and follow us on Facebook!

Edited August 30, 2018 by Brett Barrow

[niteowl7710]

Makes sense...more stuff Blitz would have no use for in reality.  Even Revell hasn't bothered to do anything with them since doing some of those multi-kit releases, and that was what? Has to be at least 20 years ago at this point.  I mean you basically can't even give most of those kits away at shows, I saw someone try to sell 3 of them for $1 and nobody bought them.

That being said, it would be nice to have some model year specific corrections done to some of those since the base kits weren't exactly updated year to year.

2018 is the year the niche becomes...nichier?  

[Toner283]

Yeah, I have to agree with Niteowl. Unless they got that tooling for basically scrap value I cannot see it being the greatest investment. The market is still pretty much flooded with those mid 90s early 2000s NASCAR kits. Not sure how they will mold more and make any money doing it. And having seen some of their new offerings I don't have a whole lot of confidence in the Salvino's abilities to "update" these kits and have them be an accurate representation of whatever they update them to.

Edited August 30, 2018 by Toner283

[Brett Barrow]

To me the biggest drawback with old NASCAR kits is you know the decals are likey going to be trash, so having new runs with fresh, well-done decal sheets might help some. Not everybody wants to have buy a kit and a decal sheet.   Not to mention the box appeal of a NASCAR kit to collectors, I feel like the vast majority of NASCAR kits were probably bought and sat on a shelf somewhere with no intention to build just because of the driver on the box.   Probably a big reason why there's so many on the secondary market nowadays.  

I've heard it said through many sources that those 80's NASCAR kits and the subsequent craze is what saved Monogram from going under.  They were really struggling at the time. 

Edited August 30, 2018 by Brett Barrow

[Dave Van]

1 hour ago, Toner283 said:

Yeah, I have to agree with Niteowl. Unless they got that tooling for basically scrap value I cannot see it being the greatest investment. The market is still pretty much flooded with those mid 90s early 2000s NASCAR kits. Not sure how they will mold more and make any money doing it. And having seen some of their new offerings I don't have a whole lot of confidence in the Salvino's abilities to "update" these kits and have them be an accurate representation of whatever they update them to.

My understanding is they will be using the tooling with modifications to make kits never done before. The racing builders for the most part are excited about the possibilities. Folks investing in this hobby is good no matter what subject. 

[niteowl7710]

1 hour ago, Toner283 said:

Yeah, I have to agree with Niteowl. Unless they got that tooling for basically scrap value I cannot see it being the greatest investment. The market is still pretty much flooded with those mid 90s early 2000s NASCAR kits. Not sure how they will mold more and make any money doing it. And having seen some of their new offerings I don't have a whole lot of confidence in the Salvino's abilities to "update" these kits and have them be an accurate representation of whatever they update them to.

From what they have posted on FB, they only got the pre-1990s molds, but I suspect that would also cover the very early 1990s as well.  So technically the swamp off the 90s/00s over-releasing doesn't necessarily effect them. 

They should now have - 

Three generations of Buick Regals

Two generations of Oldsmobiles

The Monte Carlo tooling, and you'd have to think the Lumina tooling - since that was right in 1990 when the DoT cars came out.

Two generations of Grand Prixs, as the "rounder" one came out in 1989

The square T-Birds, the "round" 80s T-Birds, and then also possibly the really round T-Birds as the first of those kits were also released in 1990.

 

Looking at that the most obviously thing to spool up would be a G-Body Cutlass to put on the 80s GM chassis. Also a "2+2" Grand Prix.  Frankly with race car kits in general the 1980s into the extreme early 1990s is where all the action is at right now with the exception of Rally & Customer Racing (GT-3) in the hobby.  This really does open up a "once in a lifetime" chance for them to wildly expand their offerings for a very minimal investment - and put things on a established platform that is already well liked and very buildable (as were most Monogram kits) by modelers.

 

 

[niteowl7710]

[PettyKW43]

On 2018-08-17 at 8:40 AM, rickcaps55 said:

Ok I have to say this.! I'm 66 and I built my first model in 1962 it was an AMT 62 Ford Fairlane  and I have been building for 56 years and I have built just about every main kit out there SMP AMT Revell MPC JoHan and all the new ones I understand a lot of guys that like to see the model look as close to the real car as it can get and so do I but I have to tell you guys something in 56 years I have had friends and family and others look at my models and not one time in 56 years have I had anyone say ho man it's not right the chrome is wrong or the windows are wrong or the dip in the fender is not right it takes to dam long for this companys to get these kits out because everyone is telling them what to do and how to change them your model builders fix it when you build it it's not a perfect science they look great just get them out and maybe if we leave them alone they will get more of the old kits out that everyone keeps dreaming about.!!!

So agree with this , been building since 66’ and couldn’t agree more! Everyone needs to drop the negative about the old, current and future kits coming and just build what you want with what is available to you to whatever level you capable of!