blunc Posted January 3, 2021 Posted January 3, 2021 I commend you on a very thought-provoking build as well as your skills in metalwork and design vision. I look forward to seeing your choice of windscreen... single, dual, full windshield laid back at just the right angle... I would like to suggest Woodlite headlights to further add to the uniqueness of this build, I think they would compliment the lines of the body.
Ace-Garageguy Posted January 3, 2021 Posted January 3, 2021 Ho baby...smokin' hot design. Fine proportions, yes indeed. VERY nice work here...
foghorn62 Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 6 hours ago, blunc said: I commend you on a very thought-provoking build as well as your skills in metalwork and design vision. I look forward to seeing your choice of windscreen... single, dual, full windshield laid back at just the right angle... I would like to suggest Woodlite headlights to further add to the uniqueness of this build, I think they would compliment the lines of the body. Thank you Mike! Those are excellent suggestions all! I’ve been pondering them all, and I have not made a decision on either the windshield or the headlights yet. 2 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said: Ho baby...smokin' hot design. Fine proportions, yes indeed. VERY nice work here... Thank you very much Bill!
foghorn62 Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Art Laski said: Tim, thank you for bringing your thread to my attention. I have some panels, much less complex than yours, that I will need to do in brass, so I might pick up a thing or two here , for sure. Outstanding work! Thanks for stopping by Art, and also for your kind words! Anything I can do to help, just let me know> 7 hours ago, Dennis Lacy said: Excuse me while I pick my jaw up of the floor! Thanks Dennis!
Bainford Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/3/2021 at 8:29 AM, foghorn62 said: Thanks Trevor! That is an interesting observation. I have not seen that configuration. What is that based on? Well, as I say, it's a nit-pick. Minor stuff, and unnoticeable to most. The cylinders on each cylinder bank of the Ardun are arranged in pairs, the cylinders in each pair being a mirror image of each other in terms of valve train/rocker arm configuration. A v-8 engine will have two of these 'pairs' on each side of course, and a v'12 would have three of these 'pairs'. For a v-12 such a configuration would have spark plugs arranged thus; oo oo oo. With significant and unnecessary re-working of the valve train you could possibly have a plug arrangement of oo o o oo, but in the real world no one would do this. The spark plug configuration on the 3D printed v-12 Ardun is ooo ooo. If numbering the cylinders on one side 1-6 from front to back, cylinder 1 would have one plug, cylinder 2 would have two plugs, cylinders 3 & 4 would have no plugs, 5 would have two and 6 would have one. It's all a bit pedantic, really, but I noticed when viewing the photos. The vast majority will likely not know the difference. By no means do I wish to detract from your stellar build. Cheers.
Straightliner59 Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 36 minutes ago, Bainford said: It's all a bit pedantic, really, but I noticed when viewing the photos. The vast majority will likely not know the difference. I don't think that's pedantic, at all. You're right that most folks won't know the difference, but, why excuse it, when research is so easy to come by, these days?
absmiami Posted January 4, 2021 Posted January 4, 2021 This is really turning out nicely. Could I impose upon you to replace the fuel injector pipes with some polished alu ?? ??
foghorn62 Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Straightliner59 said: I don't think that's pedantic, at all. You're right that most folks won't know the difference, but, why excuse it, when research is so easy to come by, these days? Well, one reason could be that Arden never made a head for a V12, so we have to assume that if they did, it would be configured like the V8. That being said, after seeing the pics that Trevor posted of the open head, I agree that it is logical, and three sets of two would be a more likely design than two sets of three. The 3D designer on the other hand was probably more interested in capturing the familiar Arden name plate between the spark plug sets, and it would look funny to have it twice on each valve cover. If I were planning to compete in the GSL with this model, I’d probably try to figure out a work around, but since the only competition this build will ever see is for space on my own display shelf, I probably won’t. I doubt it would stand much of a chance against the likes of Randy D. or Mark J. anyway. Edited January 4, 2021 by foghorn62 Spelling
foghorn62 Posted January 4, 2021 Author Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, absmiami said: This is really turning out nicely. Could I impose upon you to replace the fuel injector pipes with some polished alu ?? ?? Thank you for your input Andrew! I agree, aluminum injector stacks would look much better! I may do that. None of the fuel system is permanently in place yet.
foghorn62 Posted January 5, 2021 Author Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) On 1/4/2021 at 12:55 PM, Bainford said: It's all a bit pedantic, really, but I noticed when viewing the photos. The vast majority will likely not know the difference. By no means do I wish to detract from your stellar build. Cheers. Thank you very much for this Trevor! I learned something here today. I’ll be the first to admit that I am not well schooled in the nuts and bolts of engine design, but the way you laid it out makes good sense. As I mentioned earlier, I suspect that the 3D designer was more interested in featuring the Arden script than in accuracy of the head design. It’s not pedantic at all, because it taught me something, but in all likelihood, I’ll leave it alone. Here is a pic of a Lincoln block that supports you statement. TS Edited January 5, 2021 by foghorn62 Added pic
Bainford Posted January 5, 2021 Posted January 5, 2021 Cheers Tim. Your photo of the v-12 block illustrates things nicely. I generally keep my mouth shut on such issues. Some people are interested to know while others view it as criticism, and I do not wish to criticize. Looking forward to more of your excellent build. I'm quite envious of your brass panel skills.
foghorn62 Posted January 5, 2021 Author Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Bainford said: Some people are interested to know while others view it as criticism, and I do not wish to criticize. Looking forward to more of your excellent build. I'm quite envious of your brass panel skills. Personally, I don’t post my work fishing for compliments. There are always lots of them, but observations, suggestions, and yes even constructive criticism, are all ways for us to learn, and become better model builders. Bring it on I say! I have pretty thick skin. I can handle it. Thanks again Trevor. A day when I learn something is a great day indeed! TS
Mike Williams Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, foghorn62 said: Personally, I don’t post my work fishing for compliments. There are always lots of them, but observations, suggestions, and yes even constructive criticism, are all ways for us to learn, and become better model builders. Bring it on I say! I have pretty thick skin. I can handle it. Thanks again Trevor. A day when I learn something is a great day indeed! TS Great that you have thick skin, Tim! Actually kind of amazing that your caliber still goofs up! Laughing now, it’s great to see you here, lots of good guys have chimed in. My word, this is truly a great hotrod creation! Smooth lines in brass, rounded body panels are not easy to do, and you've done well. I enjoy as always your work, being an inspiring addition to this forum. Greetings, Mike.. Edited January 6, 2021 by Mike Williams
foghorn62 Posted January 6, 2021 Author Posted January 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Mike Williams said: Great that you have thick skin, Tim! Actually kind of amazing that your caliber still goofs up! Laughing now, it’s great to see you here, lots of good guys have chimed in. My word, this is truly a great hotrod creation! Smooth lines in brass, rounded body panels are not easy to do, and you've done well. I enjoy as always your work, being an inspiring addition to this forum. Greetings, Mike.. Hi Mike, it’s great to see you here my friend! And thank you very much for the good words. I’m not sure about my caliber, because I goof up a lot. Then I have to make the decision as to whether or not I need or want to go back and fix it. My models are not built to compete in contests, so it’s only about how I want it to come across on forums like this one. Sometimes it becomes a great opportunity to learn something.
OldNYJim Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Wow, what an impressive build! And aside from the obvious craftsmanship displayed here, the overall look of the car is GREAT. Love it!
misterNNL Posted January 6, 2021 Posted January 6, 2021 Thanks for posting your progress, This is type of work that inspires a lot of us turn things up a notch of three.
foghorn62 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Posted January 7, 2021 21 hours ago, misterNNL said: Thanks for posting your progress, This is type of work that inspires a lot of us turn things up a notch of three. Well hello Tom! Do you remember me? It’s been many years. I dropped out of the hobby about the time you had that now I’m famous picnic in your garage. I’m glad to be back in it these days, and especially glad that you stopped by and enjoyed what I have posted. I have a couple of other topics posted in the Model Cars forum, and if you’d like to take a look at my Fotki page, here is the link. https://public.fotki.com/Tallboy6241/ I have already made a few good friends on this forum, and I look forward to meeting, and sharing ideas, and inspirations with many more.
foghorn62 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Posted January 7, 2021 22 hours ago, larman said: Super job! Love the stance and design! Thanks Larry! 22 hours ago, CabDriver said: Wow, what an impressive build! And aside from the obvious craftsmanship displayed here, the overall look of the car is GREAT. Love it! Thanks for stopping by Jim, and your kind words!
misterNNL Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 7 hours ago, foghorn62 said: Well hello Tom! Do you remember me? It’s been many years. I dropped out of the hobby about the time you had that now I’m famous picnic in your garage. I’m glad to be back in it these days, and especially glad that you stopped by and enjoyed what I have posted. I have a couple of other topics posted in the Model Cars forum, and if you’d like to take a look at my Fotki page, here is the link. https://public.fotki.com/Tallboy6241/ I have already made a few good friends on this forum, and I look forward to meeting, and sharing ideas, and inspirations with many more. Thanks for posting those links. I particularly like the of you and I shaking hands with Chuck Helppie and Tim Boyd looking on. The absolute best thing there is the huge and very genuine smiles on everyone's faces.
foghorn62 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 56 minutes ago, misterNNL said: The absolute best thing there is the huge and very genuine smiles on everyone's faces. Yup, that was #30. It was only the second (and last) NNL that I was able to attend, and I was only there as a spectator. I was living in Texas at the time, and happened to be visiting in the Detroit area that weekend. I had gotten ahold of Tim Boyd, and he suggested I try to get down to the NNL, which I did. You can tell by our facial expressions that we were all having a great time!
foghorn62 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 40 minutes ago, DrKerry said: Ummmm wow!!! Great workmanship Thanks Kerry!
DrKerry Posted January 8, 2021 Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, foghorn62 said: Thanks Kerry! You’re welcome!! Awesome work!! Never got into working with brass..
foghorn62 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Posted January 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, DrKerry said: You’re welcome!! Awesome work!! Never got into working with brass.. Never too late to start. You might find it to be a lot of fun!
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