Ace-Garageguy Posted January 14, 2022 Share Posted January 14, 2022 Hot diggety dog! How did I miss this? Most excellent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 15, 2022 Author Share Posted January 15, 2022 A concession to scale - the front shocks are glued to the front of the chassis legs - so I’ve added small tabs to grasp the ends … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Payne Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Wonderful stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 The mount for the fr leaf spring is made fr Evergreen angle stock and bar - and a short section of plastic shrink tube - once everything was carved up and glued to the chassis leg - the bolts were added - AnyZ - and Master Club … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 17, 2022 Author Share Posted January 17, 2022 The Indy Millers used friction shocks front and back - I’m figuring out how to fabricate the angled casting used by Miller to link the bottom two shock leaves to the leaf spring - bits and pieces of Evergreen … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 awesome so far, we need more pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bainford Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 That's looking great. Nice detail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 23, 2022 Author Share Posted January 23, 2022 Alrighty then - more pichers - Evergreen strip for some flanges - the bolts on the chassis are sourced from RB Motion, Master Club, AnyZ, whatever seems to look right - that I’ve got in my stash … the cross brace w the flanges serves as a top mount for the friction shocks … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Using Scale Hardware bolts too - but I’m running low on my favorites and restocks nowhere on the Horizon - but ill reach out to the guy who created the business - but then sold it - to get his thoughts … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 This is a very interesting build Andrew. The Millers have very nice lines. Will be following this thread. Before seeing this, the only Miller kit that I am aware of is an old Auto Kits model I white metal produced over here in the UK. There are possibly others of US origin that I do not know of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 The Miller you are referring to is the 24th scale miller 91 fr Dr produced [still] by sefinecast.co.um. curbside - but they were / are the only craft kit makers I can think of that made Indy kits in 24th scale - on this side of the pond - we’ve always had 25th scale Indy resin kits …. You might not be familiar with the late Chris Etzell’s excellent 25th scale Indy kits - produced 25 - 30 years ago …. And some others by Bill Jorgenson and later - Gary Doucette …. not to mention current EBay offerings by Pennsylvania resin castor Silvercitymodels … [also very good]. Which is why I apologized at the top of this thread for persisting in creating a 24th sc Indy Miller … hope this adequately confuses things … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 The white metal Miller 91 fr Dr kit In question …. Note the rubber Tires tried their best to eat right through the bottom Of the foam packaging - yup I’ve had it a while - but the foam peels off the tires with no damage … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Photo 1 - the white metal Miller kit has a nice 2 Piece frame …. The resin kit behind is Harold’s 91 fr Dr Miller - if my recollection is correct - it was mastered years ago by Etzell but never kitted - Harold may have mastered the detail parts - anyway - it’s first rate …. photo 2. - the Miller 91 fr dr body compared to my 122 body / frame … photo 3. - comparison of Etzell’s great Miller 91 engine Casting with my 122 crankcase and Cyl heads - Etzell’s eng was 25th scale vs my 24th sc eng castings - not much difference … I’ve split and made two separate cyl head castings - so you can see the gap /opening - which is about 3/4 inch scale … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted January 26, 2022 Author Share Posted January 26, 2022 Photo 2 above - phone swallowed the text [dog ate the homework ]. Comparing my Miller 122 body to the Etzell / Bradford 91 front dr … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) The /24th scale Miller 91 in white metal as Andrew mentioned is still available. A bit of history about this kit is that it was originally made by a company named Auto Kits who way back in the 60's had a shop.in Holborn, London. The Auto Kits range was sold on to Wills Finecast at Forest Row Sussex and was added to the Wills Finecast range who's kits were more detailed than the Auto Kits Range. Wills was bought out and the company carried on from the same Forest Row address under the new name South Eastern Finecast. To bring this right up to date, Squires at Bognor Regis in Sussex has bought out South Eastern Finecast fairly recently. Squires are very well known in the UK as suppliers of extensive ranges of model making tools, material and accessories. I would imagine that they will continue to market the car kits under the Finecast and Auto Kits brand names. South Eastern (ex Wills) also made a range of Traction Engines in 1/32nd scale but are better known for their main focus in the UK, namely things for the model railway enthusiast. Requires will no doubt be marketing all those other ranges too. Edited March 11, 2022 by Bugatti Fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 Very helpful … maybe this explains why the Bugatti 59 kit had excellent detail while the Miller and others were curbside …. With the ready availablity of printed wire wheels now - any of their kits can be built and will look great …. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misterNNL Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 On 1/14/2022 at 2:13 PM, absmiami said: Over the years I’ve photographed a number of 91s and 122s. The first shot shows how the front of the shock attaches to the frame - the second photo shows the shock mount that holds the trailing end of the front leaf spring …. Going here next The spring mount bracket shown here is a study in art deco streamline design. This might just as easily have been a square-ish and uninspired piece of steel but instead it is a beautifully crafted integral component part worthy of being shown here. Thanks for posting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 You’re welcome - I’ll post some more Miller porn as i get a little farther along w this build … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The Wills Finecast range are more detailed kits than the Auto Kits. I have the Finecast Type 59 Bugatti to bui!d and plan to obtain a set of Le Mans Miniatures photo etched wire wheels for it. Also in my stash is an Auto Kits MG TD kit that is a kerb side model. However, both ranges carry some subject matter not done by any one else in 1/24th scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian McLaren Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 A really interesting project, well done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugatti Fan Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Andrew mentioned about the tyres in his Auto Kits Miller reacting with the expanded polystyrene packaging. Model kit tyres made with vinyl has a chemical reaction to polystyrene plastic. I found out the hard way when I had a kit that was stashed away for years. Upon opening it I found that the vinyl tyres that were against any of the kit parts had sort of moulded themselves into the plastic. Both tyres and parts were ruined as a result. I always now ensure that tyres are bagged or wrapped in tissue to separate them within the box before storing. Not sure if real rubber would react in the same way, but err on the side of caution . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie libby Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 looking great andrew .more pictures please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Ive been sawing away on a 98 year old Delage grand prix car on the neighboring Model Cars thread …. The moderators have been asked to slide that thead over here - but they seem to be - er - asleep at the wheel …. Ill do some work on this engine once ive made some more progress on said Delage ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pg265 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Hi, Wonderful! I love the Miller and have one from HRM to build. Your work is just amazing! Pascal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absmiami Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Pascal - i know exactly which Miller that you have from “Harold’s model factory”. As ive got two of those - Important note - the Bradford fr dr 91 duplicates the Series I 91 and not the Series II cars - the ones that carried the suoercharger at the back of The cylinder head - post me here if you want more info - or if you would like to do a tandem build thread … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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