Sebring 12 Hours 1964 Proposed group build thread

Gramps46 · December 23, 2022

On 12/23/2022 at 2:58 PM, absmiami said:

Gramps - did Shelby ever prep a GT40 in Viking Blue ? … ??

cobra cooper

Cobra roadster

daytona coupe

GT40 ??

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I am not aware of any GT40 painted in Viking blue at least not by Shelby.

vamach1 · December 23, 2022

While we are talking Daytona Coupes here are a few. The one Peter is standing next to is a McClusky built coupe owned by a friend. And just for fun here is Shelby next to a Cobra at Lime Rock CT in 2000.

absmiami · January 2, 2023

Merry new year

Mecum auctions Kissimmee is starting the new year off with some cool vintage racers - a Gurney Indy Eagle with a great history - a Shelby King Cobra Monaco in guardsman blue - and a Ford GT40 - Mark IV - chassis J10 - which has an interesting history - J10 did not compete at Sebring or Lemans - but had an active racing career as an open top car in Can Am - its restoration is to LeMans specs - i saw J10 years ago at a GT40 reunion at Daytona - it’s a great looking car…

Smilesperhour · January 7, 2023

An mg b aoshima kit is on its way to me so I'll likely do the red factory car from the 64 race.

absmiami · January 10, 2023

Great news - post some box pix when you’re shipment arrives …

MarkJ · January 23, 2023

Okay guys. Any updates? This is very interesting building you got going on here.

Phildaupho · January 23, 2023

On 1/23/2023 at 2:36 PM, MarkJ said:

Okay guys. Any updates? This is very interesting building you got going on here.

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Corvette Grand Sport #4

Okay you asked for it. Your post made me wonder when I last did an update as it seemed like a long time ago. It actually was over a month ago but only one page back. Because the deadline is so far off I guess no one is feeling much urgency. Since that last post I have completed two other models and started two more.

I have never been able to find the full story on why Hall & Penske decided it was better to tape over the hood louvers when they were installed to exhaust under hood heat and air pressure which caused the front to lift but I have always preferred the look. Rather than install the complex photo-etched louvers I decided to close the openings from below and then fair them in. Once painted I will cover the areas with white tape. The Hall/Penske did such a good job taping over the louvers that in most photos the taping is impossible to detect.

Edited January 27, 2023 by Phildaupho

Pierre Rivard · July 16, 2023

Don't forget this great thread fellows. We need to keep it alive while our master Andy is living the dream in Ferrari wonderland.

So far only 2 entries on the starting grid...patiently waiting for others to join.

absmiami · July 18, 2023

Sorry bout the momentary distraction - ill be back …

Phildaupho · August 3, 2023

On 7/16/2023 at 3:01 PM, Pierre Rivard said:

Don't forget this great thread fellows. We need to keep it alive while our master Andy is living the dream in Ferrari wonderland.

So far only 2 entries on the starting grid...patiently waiting for others to join.

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Pierre I am back to work on my model of the Hall/Penske Grand Sport and referred to your excellent WIP thread regarding your GS build for getting the rear of the chassis to fit properly. I likely would not have discovered the fitment issues until after painting otherwise, without your excellent tutorial. Thanks Pierre.

To summarize for others, it is necessary to trim the cut outs in the inner fender liners to give clearance for the roll bar supports otherwise the frame will not mate properly with the under floor. The gas tank needs to be reduced in height to give adequate clearance for the differential. I also filled in the slots on the bottom of the frame.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Phildaupho

Scooter757 · August 29, 2023

My build is the Accurate Miniatures 1963 Grand Sport. I’ve had it in my stash for many years and with ACME show coming up in October with the Corvette theme wanted to start it up. Started to research the #4 Corvette that was driven by Jim Hall and Roger Penske. This kit looked somewhat basic for detail but is pretty nice.
I started with the engine with plans to install throttle linkages and fuel lines.

Edited August 29, 2023 by Scooter757

Phildaupho · August 29, 2023

On 8/29/2023 at 9:55 PM, Scooter757 said:

My build is the Accurate Miniatures 1963 Grand Sport. I’ve had it in my stash for many years and with ACME show coming up in October with the Corvette theme wanted to start it up. Started to research the #4 Corvette that was driven by Jim Hall and Roger Penske. This kit looked somewhat basic for detail but is pretty nice.
I started with the engine with plans to install throttle linkages and fuel lines.

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Looks like there will be 2 #4s on the grid !!

absmiami · August 30, 2023

Oops …. Im in too good a mood a mood to commence a rules review ….
pre-fit / check EVERYTHING …

absmiami · August 30, 2023

If you check the link on page one -

i think there were 3 GSs in the 64 race - and i think the third is unclaimed - just sayin -

Big John · August 30, 2023

On 8/29/2023 at 9:55 PM, Scooter757 said:

My build is the Accurate Miniatures 1963 Grand Sport. I’ve had it in my stash for many years and with ACME show coming up in October with the Corvette theme wanted to start it up. Started to research the #4 Corvette that was driven by Jim Hall and Roger Penske. This kit looked somewhat basic for detail but is pretty nice.
I started with the engine with plans to install throttle linkages and fuel lines.

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Are the Webers an linkage stock kit parts? The carbs look to be cast metal. ?

250 Testa Rossa · August 30, 2023

On 8/30/2023 at 1:02 AM, absmiami said:

If you check the link on page one -

i think there were 3 GSs in the 64 race - and i think the third is unclaimed - just sayin -

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There were 3 cars. #s 2, 3, and 4 were all Grand Sports.

Scooter757 · August 30, 2023

Those are the carbs that came with the kit, I painted them flat aluminum and the velocity stacks Alclad 2 polished aluminum.

This kit comes with the fittings for the air jacks and oil filler on the right fender that Jim Hall installed at Chaparral after Roger sent the car to him. I do not want to cover and fill over them and since there is a #4 Penske/Hall Corvette being built, I will bow out of this build.

thanks

absmiami · August 30, 2023

Build it / post it anyway - we’ll call it a protest build …

Phildaupho · August 31, 2023

On 8/30/2023 at 5:55 PM, Scooter757 said:

Those are the carbs that came with the kit, I painted them flat aluminum and the velocity stacks Alclad 2 polished aluminum.

This kit comes with the fittings for the air jacks and oil filler on the right fender that Jim Hall installed at Chaparral after Roger sent the car to him. I do not want to cover and fill over them and since there is a #4 Penske/Hall Corvette being built, I will bow out of this build.

thanks

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On 8/30/2023 at 6:11 PM, absmiami said:

Build it / post it anyway - we’ll call it a protest build …

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Hey Scott - Like Andrews says "build it and post it". The more the merrier !! Or ay least do your own On The Workbench WIP thread as I have. I am certainly curious about your build as you have obviously well researched the Hall/Penske Grand Sport.

Edited August 31, 2023 by Phildaupho

Scooter757 · September 3, 2023

Ok, I apologize about the Grand Sport, I didn’t read all the rules. What cobras have not been selected yet.

250 Testa Rossa · September 3, 2023

I want to do the #11 Cobra, but the version I really want to do is the restored car. It has been restored to its Daytona livery and has been a frequent sight at the Monterey Historic Races each year.

Scooter757 · September 16, 2023

Plan on starting the #80 Cobra 289 CSX2127, is this one still available? I need some help on where to find some accurate information about the engine detail, interior and overall car that ran in the 64 Sebring race. I found some current info on CSX2127 it now has a roof added and still runs events.

Gramps46 · September 16, 2023

FWIW - CSX 2127 1964 Sebring

Edited September 16, 2023 by Gramps46

Scooter757 · September 16, 2023

I finished the unofficial #4 Corvette Grand Sport. I changed up the seatbelts, didn't add the extra coolers to the rear fenders and kept the original single cooler. I cut the trunk and the service door for the brake booster open, moved the battery from the front of the car to the correct trunk area. filled in the bottom of the frame, added brake and fuel lines to the dual fuel pumps. made the knock off hubs and added alignment pins for the rims that also have holes for the pins and valve stems. I first added braided fuel lines to the engine but didn't like them and went to smaller black braided fuel lines that come off the fuel pressure regulator.