What are the chances that we could see an all new kit of the AMT 67 Ford Galaxy?

[rickcaps55]

7 hours ago, earlleecliffton1 said:

3D printers could make a lot of money here!

I have bought 4 really nice 3D kits now and they are very detailed but until someone can come up with a way to 3D print or add clear glass for the windows i am done with any 3d kits i have wasted so much material cutting and trying to fit and shape windows it's not worth it anymore the more modern cars the glass is flatter it's not to bad but the older body styles what a pain i have spent more time with the windows then with the hole kit.! On the other hand, 3D motors and wheels and body parts are great i love them.

[Erik Solie]

Any company doing a 3D print of a kit should be including a buck for both the front and back glass with instructions on how to heat & smash clear sheet over.  Two simple parts, and the builder can make as many windshields as it takes to get it right.

[RomanII]

 

"What are the chances that we could see an all new kit of the AMT 67 Ford Galaxy?"

Absolutely zero.

 

 

 

[Mark C.]

13 hours ago, RomanII said:

 

"What are the chances that we could see an all new kit of the AMT 67 Ford Galaxy?"

Absolutely zero.

 

 

 

How about a cloned, remastered, and improved kit?

Absolutely not zero.  

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[stavanzer]

I think that we will not see very many 58 year old cars, remastered, cloned, or improved.

The Galaxie, doesn't seem to rank high on the list of cars.

Yes, there very driven fans, but I don't think the Vocal fringe are enough to make a cloned kit worthwhile in the long run.

[fairlane1320]

The 1967 isn't my favorite Galaxie, but I'd buy a kit. It's the only 60s Galaxie I don't have in my stash.

 

A 427 LTD would be really cool....😎

[Justin Porter]

I could see a '67 Galaxie 500XL kit especially if it included a good quality lowrider option. Probably the biggest hurdle to such a kit is that the two groups of non-replica stock builders who would be most interested in the kit - lowrider builders and modern restomod/pro touring builders - would almost need a more detailed chassis than you would find under a Craftsman Plus clone. 

Could it be a modest success? Probably. If I were going to wager on what would be a smart tooling investment, though, it would be a modern replacement for the old '63 Galaxie 500 kit. The big '63 Ford Galaxies have a worldwide appeal that a 2n1 kit with reasonable parts to create a touring car racing version would be a hit. Seeing the Galaxies sliding around at the Goodwood Revival surely is all the sales push the kit would need.

[Junkman]

There are but five Galaxie reissues missing. 1958, 1959, 1962, 1967, and 1968.
I do wonder what the bloody holdup is.

[Can-Con]

1 hour ago, Justin Porter said:

I could see a '67 Galaxie 500XL kit especially if it included a good quality lowrider option. Probably the biggest hurdle to such a kit is that the two groups of non-replica stock builders who would be most interested in the kit - lowrider builders and modern restomod/pro touring builders - would almost need a more detailed chassis than you would find under a Craftsman Plus clone. 

Could it be a modest success? Probably. If I were going to wager on what would be a smart tooling investment, though, it would be a modern replacement for the old '63 Galaxie 500 kit. The big '63 Ford Galaxies have a worldwide appeal that a 2n1 kit with reasonable parts to create a touring car racing version would be a hit. Seeing the Galaxies sliding around at the Goodwood Revival surely is all the sales push the kit would need.

 , , and for those who don't know what insanity Justin's last sentence is referring too , , , 

[Edsel-Dan]

59 was the year Ford introduced the Galaxie nameplate

The 58 would be a Fairlane 500, Fairlane or Custom.

I too would love to see those Fullbody Fords offered again, but.......

[stavanzer]

3 hours ago, Junkman said:

There are but five Galaxie reissues missing. 1958, 1959, 1962, 1967, and 1968.
I do wonder what the bloody holdup is.

Tooling Costs, and R.O.I.

And the Sales Factor. (as in Not enough sales)

[Mark C.]

In the end, it doesn’t matter much to me whether this subject is reissued or not.  I like the ‘67 Fords, and would buy one if it were available as a plastic kit (for the subject matter only, so I don’t care if it’s full detail or Craftsman style).  There are ‘67 Fords available as 3D print kits, but I have not bought one as there are so many subjects available that I like better… if that says anything about anything (hint: it doesn’t).

Unlike others, I am not going to pretend that I know anything about what makes a viable business case for Round 2, especially in this challenging world economy where drastic changes happen almost daily and right out of the blue, without a hint of logic or predictability.  So I am going to say that if Round 2 sees fit to clone or reissue this kit, I’ll buy one.  If they don’t, so be it.  

In the meantime I will continue to enjoy the debate…. Carry on!

[GMP440]

If Round 2 took the same approach as they did with the 68 Coronet convertible and hardtop kits, whereby improvements were made, then I beleive the 67 Galaxie kit  can be a success and sell well.  This is just an opinion and nothing else.  Maybe Steve G can chime in on this subject.  Would love to see what his thoughts are.  

 

[Mark]

The '67 Galaxie is pretty much in the same column as the Jo-Han '66 Fury being talked about lately.  Probably not enough potential sales to justify tooling a new one, yet popular enough that a resin caster or 3D printer could crank out a bunch of them.  Even limiting the conversation to big Fords, there are others that would sell better ('61 Starliner for one, the NASCAR guys would be all over it).

[CapSat 6]

Ok…can of worms time! 

I’ll try to be as objective as possible. 

I’d say this one is somewhere in the middle of the list. That gives us a very, very wide space. It’s sort of like answering with: we could have any kit become available- it’s a “somebody who has never been in my kitchen” answer 😁

But seriously- I do see people comment about this subject once in awhile. It does come up. I wouldn’t say there is universal clamor for this subject, but many people think it would be nice to have it. I usually see more buzz about the ‘70 Cyclone or ‘71 Road Runner than something like this one. 

As far as Ford products go: would the ‘67 Galaxie rank higher than a ‘70-‘71 Cyclone? Probably not. Would it rank above a ‘69 Cyclone Spoiler? Maybe? Maybe not. Higher than a ‘68 or ‘69 Torino formal sedan? Maybe, maybe not. What about full size Mercuries? They stopped right around 1964, I think. Many people would like to see a Hawaii 5-0 special, or ANY full size Mercury. I knew a guy who had a ‘68 Mercury Monterey Convertible. That was a really neat car, a rare bird. They have almost no following. The very few that survive made it by pure dumb luck. 

Casting wider: would the ‘67 Galaxie rank higher than a ‘69 Impala? Or ‘71 Impala? I think full size Chevies usually have more demand for them than full size Fords. We have a lot of those and have gotten a lot of those kits within the past 25 years. There are a few gaps, but man- full size Chevies are covered pretty well. They seem to get customized a lot in 1:1, and the Lowrider crowd like them, too. 

Would the ‘67 Galaxie rank higher than a ‘69 Pontiac Grand Prix? Dunno. Maybe? Maybe not. I have my own preference here, but everybody will feel a little differently. 

Lastly: what about full size Mopars? ‘67 Galaxie vs. ‘66 Plymouth, for instance? Maybe the Galaxie by a nose. I’m a Mopar guy, and the ‘65-‘66 C Bodies leave me a little cold, although people seem to be nuts about them. What about vs. a ‘70 Chrysler 300 Hurst? Well…the 300 might have the nod there. I might see an all new (as in: ‘69-‘72 C Body) full size Chrysler having some real market impact (or maybe not. There could be a “Mopar Mirage” effect going on there)…

These are just my guesses. The ‘67 Galaxie would be aimed squarely at us- I’m not sure that would be a mass-market thing. Sure, they might get a few sales at Wal Mart or the LHS, but really, this would be for US, and we don’t all really agree on this kind of thing 100%. 

Does the ‘67 Galaxie have a racing history? I think Ford shifted right to intermediates before the ‘67’s, but there there could have been a few campaigned in NASCAR. I want to say Wendell Scott rebodied an old Holman Moody castoff as a ‘67 at some point. I’m pretty sure the original AMT kit had a NASCAR option, but when the ‘67 kit was being developed, it was probably Conventional Wisdom that they would be campaigned in NASCAR, until they weren’t. Drag history? Not really. Customs? Low riders? I don’t think I have ever seen one of these in person at any kind of small or medium cruise. I would imagine they’re only really seen now at larger Ford shows (not that they don’t deserve love- they are neat cars, they just don’t seem to have a real hold on the 1:1 hobby crowd). I’m just not sure this subject has as much of that universal appeal that many other subjects of the time have. 

So…yeah…I’d say this one is squarely in the middle. There are probably a bunch of subjects that are similar that would probably get the greenlight before this one…it’s a nice enough car, but I think the more significant full size Fords have more or less been covered. It’s a shame the tooling didn’t survive (I think it didn’t survive). 

If Round 2 does have the most of the tooling for this one though, it would definitely be worth investing a little in it and firing it up. It could be worth tooling up a few small things to get it back on the market. 

Would I buy one? Not really. I would probably buy all of the cars I mentioned above first. If I had to pick a Galaxie, mine would probably be a ‘64 (which I can get). 

 

Edited Saturday at 09:17 PM by CapSat 6
Too many words!

[Can-Con]

Personally, as I've said before, alI really want to do is build the custom version on the box. so I don't really need a new kit. A used one even with all the scripts and door handles removed would work for me but I do see why some would want a squeaky new kit. 

[and sorry, I don't believe George Barris had anything to do with the custom version of that kit even fore a minute. No gold lame or leopard skin roof covering anywhere 😉]

[Sledsel]

When it comes to the 67 Galaxie, Round 2 has a decent start already. The chassis from the 66 Galaxie kit is correct for a 67.

[slusher]

I for some reason don’t see one happening!".

[tim boyd]

14 hours ago, CapSat 6 said:

Ok…can of worms time! 

I’ll try to be as objective as possible. 

I’d say this one is somewhere in the middle of the list. That gives us a very, very wide space. It’s sort of like answering with: we could have any kit become available- it’s a “somebody who has never been in my kitchen” answer 😁

But seriously- I do see people comment about this subject once in awhile. It does come up. I wouldn’t say there is universal clamor for this subject, but many people think it would be nice to have it. I usually see more buzz about the ‘70 Cyclone or ‘71 Road Runner than something like this one. 

As far as Ford products go: would the ‘67 Galaxie rank higher than a ‘70-‘71 Cyclone? Probably not. Would it rank above a ‘69 Cyclone Spoiler? Maybe? Maybe not. Higher than a ‘68 or ‘69 Torino formal sedan? Maybe, maybe not. What about full size Mercuries? They stopped right around 1964, I think. Many people would like to see a Hawaii 5-0 special, or ANY full size Mercury. I knew a guy who had a ‘68 Mercury Monterey Convertible. That was a really neat car, a rare bird. They have almost no following. The very few that survive made it by pure dumb luck. 

Casting wider: would the ‘67 Galaxie rank higher than a ‘69 Impala? Or ‘71 Impala? I think full size Chevies usually have more demand for them than full size Fords. We have a lot of those and have gotten a lot of those kits within the past 25 years. There are a few gaps, but man- full size Chevies are covered pretty well. They seem to get customized a lot in 1:1, and the Lowrider crowd like them, too. 

Would the ‘67 Galaxie rank higher than a ‘69 Pontiac Grand Prix? Dunno. Maybe? Maybe not. I have my own preference here, but everybody will feel a little differently. 

Lastly: what about full size Mopars? ‘67 Galaxie vs. ‘66 Plymouth, for instance? Maybe the Galaxie by a nose. I’m a Mopar guy, and the ‘65-‘66 C Bodies leave me a little cold, although people seem to be nuts about them. What about vs. a ‘70 Chrysler 300 Hurst? Well…the 300 might have the nod there. I might see an all new (as in: ‘69-‘72 C Body) full size Chrysler having some real market impact (or maybe not. There could be a “Mopar Mirage” effect going on there)…

These are just my guesses. The ‘67 Galaxie would be aimed squarely at us- I’m not sure that would be a mass-market thing. Sure, they might get a few sales at Wal Mart or the LHS, but really, this would be for US, and we don’t all really agree on this kind of thing 100%. 

Does the ‘67 Galaxie have a racing history? I think Ford shifted right to intermediates before the ‘67’s, but there there could have been a few campaigned in NASCAR. I want to say Wendell Scott rebodied an old Holman Moody castoff as a ‘67 at some point. I’m pretty sure the original AMT kit had a NASCAR option, but when the ‘67 kit was being developed, it was probably Conventional Wisdom that they would be campaigned in NASCAR, until they weren’t. Drag history? Not really. Customs? Low riders? I don’t think I have ever seen one of these in person at any kind of small or medium cruise. I would imagine they’re only really seen now at larger Ford shows (not that they don’t deserve love- they are neat cars, they just don’t seem to have a real hold on the 1:1 hobby crowd). I’m just not sure this subject has as much of that universal appeal that many other subjects of the time have. 

So…yeah…I’d say this one is squarely in the middle. There are probably a bunch of subjects that are similar that would probably get the greenlight before this one…it’s a nice enough car, but I think the more significant full size Fords have more or less been covered. It’s a shame the tooling didn’t survive (I think it didn’t survive). 

If Round 2 does h6ave the most of the tooling for this one though, it would definitely be worth investing a little in it and firing it up. It could be worth tooling up a few small things to get it back on the market. 

Would I buy one? Not really. I would probably buy all of the cars I mentioned above first. If I had to pick a Galaxie, mine would probably be a ‘64 (which I can get). 

 

Bill makes some excellent points here. 

Given the other kit topics that are already on Round 2's "clone" possibles list, as much as I might personally like to see a '67 Galaxie make it to the top of the list, the other possibilities would have a much higher chance of business success in the marketplace.   TB

[CapSat 6]

15 hours ago, Can-Con said:

Personally, as I've said before, alI really want to do is build the custom version on the box. so I don't really need a new kit. A used one even with all the scripts and door handles removed would work for me but I do see why some would want a squeaky new kit. 

[and sorry, I don't believe George Barris had anything to do with the custom version of that kit even fore a minute. No gold lame or leopard skin roof covering anywhere 😉]

It does look like there was a Barris connection there. He was evidently capable of restraint He was probably just following orders for a mildly restyled ‘67 for the new car season: 

https://macsmotorcitygarage.com/george-barris-presents-the-ford-custom-cruisers/

It looks like the Barris car built for the new car show circuit was a coupe/ wagon concept. Ford seemed to be fixated on this type of thing for several years. The coupe/ wagon thing really was cool 😎!!!
 
IF this were to be cloned, Round 2 could try to bake in some of the traits of the show car, although it probably wouldn’t be practical to accurately recreate all of the modifications to the roof and hatch, but perhaps they could include a hatch piece for “advanced modelers”, engrave cut lines in the inside of the rear of the body and call the Barris connection out on the box (with the proper licensing, if it’s not too costly). 

A quick internet search did bring up a tasty modern custom, too. 

Again, I think this one resides squarely in the middle, but IF Round 2 has some of this tool to work with (perhaps they have the ‘67 body somewhere) then I think the chances increase. An all new clone might make it less attractive; it seems like this one is getting a bit of a mixed response from the crowd. 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by CapSat 6