Yes, AI and robots will replace humans.

[Ace-Garageguy]

[LennyB]

That’s bad new for McDonalds and Burger King

[1972coronet]

I fixed it :

[Brutalform]

Stop the planet! I want to get off! 

[slusher]

I can’t see complex robots being around for many years.   

[NOBLNG]

  On 11/12/2024 at 12:00 PM, slusher said:

I can’t see complex robots being around for many years.   

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They’re already here.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhND7Mvp3f4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azXBjyE9dOI

Edited November 12, 2024 by NOBLNG

[MeatMan]

  On 11/12/2024 at 1:02 PM, NOBLNG said:

They’re already here.?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhND7Mvp3f4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azXBjyE9dOI

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The agile robot is impressive! I would have been even more impressed if it had slapped the clown that pushed it down. ?
As for the Tesla bot, if it is as good as the driverless feature in Tesla cars, we will all be dead in a decade as they start to go out of control.

As for the original post with the bots reading iPads, I'd as why, since they're all networked any way (like modern cars) and don't need to read, just download.

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 11/12/2024 at 3:52 PM, MeatMan said:

...As for the original post with the bots reading iPads, I'd as why, since they're all networked any way (like modern cars) and don't need to read, just download.

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Simply to closely emulate human behavior to appear less threatening and self-possessed to the average pleb.

And...ummmm...it's a joke. 

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 11/12/2024 at 3:52 PM, MeatMan said:

...As for the Tesla bot, if it is as good as the driverless feature in Tesla cars, we will all be dead in a decade as they start to go out of control.

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Yeah, there is that.

On the other hand, it's hard to fault the engineering capability demonstrated by SpaceX's self-parking rockets.

Operating a vehicle in the real world is a vastly complex undertaking, much more difficult to achieve than researchers originally thought, and frankly, I'm amazed there aren't piles of smoking wreckage everywhere with typical humans being in control.

If I'm not mistaken, the failures of the driverless features of Teslas have all been due to drivers assuming it was a fully developed technology, and treating it as such, abdicating their part of responsible overwatch of a system that specifically warns operators it's not yet fully autonomous.

"Level 5" is fully autonomous (even though the definition is a little muddy), and with everything working perfectly, nobody's really delivered fully-capable "Level 4" yet.

EDIT: Both Waymo and Zoox vehicles have have exhibited erratic behavior and crashes when in autonomous mode too.

It would probably be smarter if all the competing companies trying to get self-driving bug-free would work together to develop ONE standard that was as close to 100% reliable under aby conditions as "humanly" possible, but the world just doesn't seem to work that rationally.

Edited November 13, 2024 by Ace-Garageguy
CLARITY

[Matt Bacon]

Never mind the humanoid ones… the REALLY creepy ones are the Boston Dynamics snake-headed dogs with tentacles that can open doors…

best,

M.

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 11/12/2024 at 5:20 PM, Matt Bacon said:

Never mind the humanoid ones… the REALLY creepy ones are the Boston Dynamics snake-headed dogs with tentacles that can open doors…

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Well, I might have to disagree...  

 

Edited November 12, 2024 by Ace-Garageguy

[MeatMan]

  On 11/12/2024 at 4:11 PM, Ace-Garageguy said:

Yeah, there is that.

On the other hand, it's hard to fault the engineering capability demonstrated by SpaceX's self-parking rockets.

Operating a vehicle in the real world is a vastly complex undertaking, much more difficult to achieve than researchers originally thought, and frankly, I'm amazed there aren't piles of smoking wreckage everywhere with typical humans being in control.

If I'm not mistaken, the failures of the driverless features of Teslas have all been due to drivers assuming it was a fully developed technology, and treating it as such, abdicating their part of responsible overwatch of a system that specifically warns operators it's not yet fully autonomous.

"Level 5" is fully autonomous (even though the definition is a little muddy), and with everything working perfectly, nobody's really delivered fully-capable "Level 4" yet.

EDIT: Both Waymo and Zoox vehicles have have exhibited erratic behavior and crashes when in autonomous mode too.

It would probably be smarter if all the competing companies trying to get self-driving bug-free would work together to develop ONE standard that was as close to 100% reliable under aby conditions as "humanly" possible, but the world just doesn't seem to work that rationally.

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Perhaps so, but this is one basis for my comment. To keep the feature (relatively) cost effective they cut corners. As for Space X, I've always been impressed with them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/09/30/how-bad-is-teslas-self-driving-feature/75411449007/

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 11/14/2024 at 1:12 PM, MeatMan said:

Perhaps so, but this is one basis for my comment. To keep the feature (relatively) cost effective they cut corners. As for Space X, I've always been impressed with them.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2024/09/30/how-bad-is-teslas-self-driving-feature/75411449007/

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It's possible to spin that article and miss the point of the most important lines:

"It's worth noting that Tesla claims FSD is still in "beta," so it's incomplete, but it also sells the feature as a five-figure option on its current lineup of EVs, allowing owners to opt into being, essentially, real-world test dummies for the system. They must acknowledge that the system requires driver oversight and is not, as its name implies, a fully self-driving system today."

While there is a question in my mind as to the wisdom of offering a system that requires active driver oversight into a world where vehicle owner's manuals are jokingly referred to as "the least-read books ever published", the facts remain that not fully-developed vehicle technologies have been put in real-world use by consumers before, and anyone relying on a level-3 system to perform at level-4 or -5 is an idiot.

Real-world beta testing where the owners are advised of their responsibilities and to NOT rely on the system to be fully autonomous has the potential to generate much more data useful in further developing the system than could be possible with just a few professionally driven prototypes.

Mr Musk, however, much as I admire him, does seem to occasionally overestimate the intelligence of the typical human, and to forget that they often hear what they want to hear rather than what is specifically stated (or written).

Edited November 14, 2024 by Ace-Garageguy

[Bugatti Fan]

I heard a really brilliant bit of AI being used on the UK BBC Radio 2 programme today.

It was featured on a show by Jeremy Vine at about mid day. Anyone interested may be able to pick it up on BBC Sounds.

Looks like one or more of the phone companies has developed an AI program to replicate a little old lady to keep scammers on the line for hours by pretending to be a bit doddery whilst not giving anything away, butting in to ask the scammer odd questions to interrupt their flow, like saying that they had hit the wrong key etc etc. It is deliberately programmed to really waste hours of the scammers time as they are incentivised per con achieved.

I heard some of the transcript and it was hilarious. There was a recording played of this thing in action against a scammer (possibly in India judging by the accent). You could hear the scammer getting more and more frustrated believing that he was talking to a real person they were trying to con.  And the beauty is that the AI could be used thousand fold at the same time against scammers on the phone.

Edited November 14, 2024 by Bugatti Fan

[bbowser]

  On 11/12/2024 at 4:11 PM, Ace-Garageguy said:

Operating a vehicle in the real world is a vastly complex undertaking, much more difficult to achieve than researchers originally thought, and frankly, I'm amazed there aren't piles of smoking wreckage everywhere with typical humans being in control.

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I think future generations will look back at us flying past each other in 2 ton masses of metal, glass, and rubber and wonder what the h*ll were they thinking!

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 11/14/2024 at 11:35 PM, bbowser said:

I think future generations will look back at us flying past each other in 2 ton masses of metal, glass, and rubber and wonder what the h*ll were they thinking!

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Frankly, I wonder about that every day...and all the while carrying around 20 gallons of highly flammable liquid in a thin-skinned metal or plastic container.

If somebody proposed that idea today, everyone would run screaming.  

[Rodent]

  On 11/15/2024 at 12:00 AM, Ace-Garageguy said:

20 gallons of highly flammable liquid in a thin-skinned metal or plastic container.

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At least it's not under your butt, over your legs, or in the pickup cab with you anymore. I survived 5 years in a Squarebody GMC with dual sidesaddle tanks without blowing up and burning to death, but that was probably because no news network planted pyrotechnic devices when I wasn't looking.

[JollySipper]

  On 11/15/2024 at 1:09 AM, Rodent said:

At least it's not under your butt, over your legs, or in the pickup cab with you anymore.

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The D100 I used to own, the fuel tank was right behind the seat! You could hear it sloshing around behind you..........

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 11/15/2024 at 2:27 AM, JollySipper said:

The D100 I used to own, the fuel tank was right behind the seat! You could hear it sloshing around behind you..........

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And of course in a VW Bug or early Porsche and even 911s the fuel tank is directly over your feet. 

[bobss396]

Heck.. I'm holding out for one that would serve as a drinking buddy that could also drive me around.

Options would be that it would have to laugh at all of my jokes... and if it could pass gas, all the better.

[JollySipper]

  On 11/15/2024 at 1:19 PM, bobss396 said:

Heck.. I'm holding out for one that would serve as a drinking buddy that could also drive me around.

Options would be that it would have to laugh at all of my jokes... and if it could pass gas, all the better.

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Sounds like Bender from the show Futurama............ 

[Rodent]

  On 11/15/2024 at 1:19 PM, bobss396 said:

and if it could pass gas, all the better.

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Its farts would probably smell like burning wires.

[thatz4u]

End result of AI robots

[Ace-Garageguy]

  On 11/15/2024 at 7:06 PM, thatz4u said:

End result of AI robots...

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I prefer this version.   

[Bugatti Fan]

'' I'll be back !''