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I don't remember the Camaro in 1/25th (I remember a 1/16th Berlinetta), and the El Hefe custom truck is a new one to me (I wasn't paying close attention to Revell as a kid in the late 70s). 

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8 minutes ago, Rob Hall said:

I don't remember the Camaro in 1/25th (I remember a 1/16th Berlinetta), and the El Hefe custom truck is a new one to me (I wasn't paying close attention to Revell as a kid in the late 70s). 

You're right about the 1/16 Berlinetta, Rob, as well as its sister kit, the Firebird SE. Revell also did 82 and 83 1/25 Camaro kits which I thought were even better than the MPC, AMT, and Monogram kits of the time. I found this pic of the 82, but pretty sure the one I had was an 83, with a white car on the box, gold trim, and it was molded in a beautiful pearl white, IIRC. Can't find a pic right now for some reason, but this kit was amazing to build. Would love to get this one again. Hope this helps, thanks!

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8 minutes ago, Stef said:

You're right about the 1/16 Berlinetta, Rob, as well as its sister kit, the Firebird SE. Revell also did 82 and 83 1/25 Camaro kits which I thought were even better than the MPC, AMT, and Monogram kits of the time. I found this pic of the 82, but pretty sure the one I had was an 83, with a white car on the box, gold trim, and it was molded in a beautiful pearl white, IIRC. Can't find a pic right now for some reason, but this kit was amazing to build. Would love to get this one again. Hope this helps, thanks!

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I built the Revell 1/25th '83 Firebird S/E as a kid.   It was molded in a dark red.. never had any of the Camaros, decades later got the MPC, AMT and Monogram ones of that era. 

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46 minutes ago, Rob Hall said:

I don't remember the Camaro in 1/25th (I remember a 1/16th Berlinetta), and the El Hefe custom truck is a new one to me (I wasn't paying close attention to Revell as a kid in the late 70s). 

Built the blue one (as Stef shows) back when it came out, sadly it didn't survive the hands of my toddler who's almost 18 now. (Sheez when did that happen 😉 )

Maybe this version was hiding in the Z/28 tool, dunno...also don't remember this version.

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I think the Camaro is one of these. I did also have the white and gold stock Z-28. It is a very nice kit, with separate body cladding. None of these had the Berlinetta nose. 

I do seem to remember a stock Berlinetta kit in 1/25 though. Could it have come with Revell’s transporter trailer set? I seem to remember that kit came with a Firebird SE and a Berlinetta. 

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1 hour ago, Stef said:

You're right about the 1/16 Berlinetta, Rob, as well as its sister kit, the Firebird SE. Revell also did 82 and 83 1/25 Camaro kits which I thought were even better than the MPC, AMT, and Monogram kits of the time. I found this pic of the 82, but pretty sure the one I had was an 83, with a white car on the box, gold trim, and it was molded in a beautiful pearl white, IIRC. Can't find a pic right now for some reason, but this kit was amazing to build. Would love to get this one again. Hope this helps, thanks!

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Googling turned up this white one... AMT did something similar in recent years w/ a reissue of their '82/83..

 

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3 hours ago, Rob Hall said:

I don't remember the Camaro in 1/25th (I remember a 1/16th Berlinetta), and the El Hefe custom truck is a new one to me (I wasn't paying close attention to Revell as a kid in the late 70s). 

That truck was issued alongside the Captain Hook wrecker back in the day.  I don't remember what it was called, but I do recall the box art showing it from the rear which ignores that unique grille.  It looks interesting but I'll pass, having a Captain Hook in paint right now, and a Sneaky Pete (different kit altogether, but in the same "big rig" territory) in prep for paint.

Mojave Mule is neat, but either TD will get it shelved, or Revell will bring him back into the fold.  Or, maybe that one was done under a different contract which would give Revell the right to issue it without his name on it.

The early Eighties Revell Camaros weren't as good as AMT's or MPC's.  The engine is a lump with characteristics of Chevy and Pontiac V8s.  The 1:1 Trans Am was supposed to get the 301 Turbo V8 (the '80-'81 Birds had it only to get it ready for the '82) but GM cheaped out and forced Pontiac to use the Chevy (or, "GM Corporate") engine.  All three (AMT, MPC, Revell) kits had the Cease-Fire (er, "Cross-Fire") injected engine with a manual transmission.  Again, GM cheaped out and didn't do emissions testing on that setup, requiring the automatic with that engine.

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I'm definitely down for a couple of the Mojave Mule kit ! 

I, too, wonder about Mr. Daniel's potentially putting the kaibosh on its release. 

I don't care what name it's released under, so long as it's got those specific parts.

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6 minutes ago, Mark said:

That truck was issued alongside the Captain Hook wrecker back in the day.  I don't remember what it was called, but I do recall the box art showing it from the rear which ignores that unique grille.  It looks interesting but I'll pass, having a Captain Hook in paint right now, and a Sneaky Pete (different kit altogether, but in the same "big rig" territory) in prep for paint.

Mojave Mule is neat, but either TD will get it shelved, or Revell will bring him back into the fold.  Or, maybe that one was done under a different contract which would give Revell the right to issue it without his name on it.

 

Didn't TD pass a year or two ago?  Maybe Revell owns the copyright to the name 'Mohave Mule'..or they can name it 'Mohave Mole' instead.    At first glance, I thought that the custom truck was the Sneaky Pete until I realized how different the front was.   Googling I turned up these pics, apparently a couple different boxings.

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Tom Daniel is still very much alive.  It was Harry Bradley who passed.  Tom's son is doing some of the box art for the Atlantis reissues, perhaps TD is overseeing the business end of any agreements he presently has.

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5 minutes ago, Mark said:

Tom Daniel is still very much alive.  It was Harry Bradley who passed.  Tom's son is doing some of the box art for the Atlantis reissues, perhaps TD is overseeing the business end of any agreements he presently has.

Ah, it's Steve Scott of Uncertain T fame I was thinking of.  He passed last year I've read. 

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4 hours ago, Rob Hall said:

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Yes yes yes that is the one, thank you!

 

4 hours ago, CapSat 6 said:

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I never built these later Revell/HOTROD street machines, though I'm guessing they're based on the factory stock 82/83s. Will definitely pick one of these up, thanks!

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On 11/16/2025 at 8:02 AM, Mark said:

...The early Eighties Revell Camaros weren't as good as AMT's or MPC's.  The engine is a lump with characteristics of Chevy and Pontiac V8s.  The 1:1 Trans Am was supposed to get the 301 Turbo V8 (the '80-'81 Birds had it only to get it ready for the '82) but GM cheaped out and forced Pontiac to use the Chevy (or, "GM Corporate") engine.  All three (AMT, MPC, Revell) kits had the Cease-Fire (er, "Cross-Fire") injected engine with a manual transmission.  Again, GM cheaped out and didn't do emissions testing on that setup, requiring the automatic with that engine.

Yup, agreed. 

As for the body shells, Revell's characterization of the 3rd-gen F-cars overall seemed a bit blocky and crude in 1/25 - much better in 1/16 for some reason - and the Camaro's front end seemed difficult to execute in this scale.  In the front fascia of the car, looking at it straight-on, there's a small scallop on the fender side of both headlight nacelles that rolls into the hood panel gap, instead of dropping straight down from either side of the hood's leading edge.  MPC blew both this detail and the drip rails (which they omitted on several '80s releases), and Revell not only missed that feature, the front end was all kinds of blunt and bloated.  In 1/25 scale, only AMT's kit caught that little scallop on either side (in fact, the body seemed copied from Monogram's 1/8 overall).  Revell's much sleeker and more graceful 1/16 Camaro kits also captured it, 'cause unlike MPC's 1/25-1/16 variations, they didn't look as if they were developed from the same body masters as the 1/25 kits.

Nothing huge, just something my 15-year-old-eyes dwelt on for a bit.

Anyway. My question would be, are they tooling new parts for that street machine kit? That front end is very Berlinetta-specific, and I can't recall seeing it before in 1/25.

And two current releases of the LUV, on top of that one from a couple years back?  Been looking forward to that High Roller 4x4 just coming out, guess I'll get a Mule too...

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53 minutes ago, Chuck Kourouklis said:

Yup, agreed. 

As for the body shells, Revell's characterization of the 3rd-gen F-cars overall seemed a bit blocky and crude in 1/25 - much better in 1/16 for some reason - and the Camaro's front end seemed difficult to execute in this scale.  In the front fascia of the car, looking at it straight-on, there's a small scallop on the fender side of both headlight nacelles that rolls into the hood panel gap, instead of dropping straight down from either side of the hood's leading edge.  MPC blew both this detail and the drip rails (which they omitted on several '80s releases), and Revell not only missed that feature, the front end was all kinds of blunt and bloated.  In 1/25 scale, only AMT's kit caught that little scallop on either side (in fact, the body seemed copied from Monogram's 1/8 overall).  Revell's much sleeker and more graceful 1/16 Camaro kits also captured it, 'cause unlike MPC's 1/25-1/16 variations, they didn't look as if they were developed from the same body masters as the 1/25 kits.

Nothing huge, just something my 15-year-old-eyes dwelt on for a bit.

Anyway. My question would be, are they tooling new parts for that street machine kit? That front end is very Berlinetta-specific, and I can't recall seeing it before in 1/25.

And two current releases of the LUV, on top of that one from a couple years back?  Been looking forward to that High Roller 4x4 just coming out, guess I'll get a Mule too...

Chuck, I'm thinking the drip rails were an option on the 3rd gen F-bodies, at least it's listed as an option on the SPID sheet for my '85 T/A. 

I think the Revell its looked pretty good for the time aside from the engine. The engine bay definitely looks good compared to the MPC kits and is pretty accurate looking compared to my car. 

 

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44 minutes ago, Chuck Kourouklis said:

Anyway. My question would be, are they tooling new parts for that street machine kit? That front end is very Berlinetta-specific, and I can't recall seeing it before in 1/25.

This one is driving me a little nuts now…when I had the yellow one, I remember that the front clip seemed to be specific to a Z-28…and that if the builder didn’t use the separate side skirts, then they mismatched. Same with the white stock Revell Z-28 I had. I was intrigued by the idea of building it without the Z-28 body stuff…I was somewhat of the opinion that the base Camaros and Berlinettas were a bit sleeker than the Z-28’s. 

I could have sworn I saw a stock 1/25 Berlinetta of some kind back in the day, but admittedly, I didn’t pay too much attention to Revell kits of that era, and I was a teen then, so my memory could be failing me here. I keep thinking I saw one in one of those auto transport sets (which were thin on the ground, and pricy for the time), but Google isn’t being helpful there. 

But IF this is to be a Berlinetta, either they will have to tool up a new nose if it doesn’t exist, or it was there all along, either unreleased, or as a rare variant. 

The box art seems to strongly hint at no body side cladding and lower fascia trim. The pics of the build are a little less clear about that. 

Either way, this is sort of a “deep cut”. The prior two street machine releases (the ones I know about) were both Z-28’s. 

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28 minutes ago, Can-Con said:

Chuck, I'm thinking the drip rails were an option on the 3rd gen F-bodies, at least it's listed as an option on the SPID sheet for my '85 T/A. 

I think the Revell its looked pretty good for the time aside from the engine. The engine bay definitely looks good compared to the MPC kits and is pretty accurate looking compared to my car. 

 

Oh, the Revell kit had its strong points for sure; I seem to recall it being the least fiddly to build, and although they were square-shouldered (again better executed in 1/16), I appreciated at least the ATTEMPT at proper Eagle GT tires.  As for drip rails, MPC just seemed to be in the habit of slopping those over in the early '80s - Corvette, half-done Fiero, especially those late, unlamented EXP kits, all looking unfinished in the greenhouse.

20 minutes ago, CapSat 6 said:

This one is driving me a little nuts now…when I had the yellow one, I remember that the front clip seemed to be specific to a Z-28…and that if the builder didn’t use the separate side skirts, then they mismatched. Same with the white stock Revell Z-28 I had. I was intrigued by the idea of building it without the Z-28 body stuff…I was somewhat of the opinion that the base Camaros and Berlinettas were a bit sleeker than the Z-28’s. 

I could have sworn I saw a stock 1/25 Berlinetta of some kind back in the day, but admittedly, I didn’t pay too much attention to Revell kits of that era, and I was a teen then, so my memory could be failing me here. I keep thinking I saw one in one of those auto transport sets (which were thin on the ground, and pricy for the time), but Google isn’t being helpful there. 

But IF this is to be a Berlinetta, either they will have to tool up a new nose if it doesn’t exist, or it was there all along, either unreleased, or as a rare variant. 

The box art seems to strongly hint at no body side cladding and lower fascia trim. The pics of the build are a little less clear about that. 

Either way, this is sort of a “deep cut”. The prior two street machine releases (the ones I know about) were both Z-28’s. 

Yeah, see, I think it's all been Z28 till now.  If Revell found the patterns for its 1/16 Berlinetta, it may have been just cost-effective enough to do the new nose - OR, maybe as you observed, it was something tooled but never released.

Hmmph, kinda getting excited about that one now...

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I looked at the Mohave Mule original box. Tom Daniels name doesn't appear on it. Depending on the way his contract was written he likely can't control the reissue. It would be like me as a contractor objecting to you painting the house a different color than he did. He got paid and can't control the use of his designs but he can control the use of his name. 

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On 11/16/2025 at 11:02 AM, Mark said:

That truck was issued alongside the Captain Hook wrecker back in the day.  I don't remember what it was called, but I do recall the box art showing it from the rear which ignores that unique grille.  It looks interesting but I'll pass, having a Captain Hook in paint right now, and a Sneaky Pete (different kit altogether, but in the same "big rig" territory) in prep for paint.

Mojave Mule is neat, but either TD will get it shelved, or Revell will bring him back into the fold.  Or, maybe that one was done under a different contract which would give Revell the right to issue it without his name on it.

The early Eighties Revell Camaros weren't as good as AMT's or MPC's.  The engine is a lump with characteristics of Chevy and Pontiac V8s.  The 1:1 Trans Am was supposed to get the 301 Turbo V8 (the '80-'81 Birds had it only to get it ready for the '82) but GM cheaped out and forced Pontiac to use the Chevy (or, "GM Corporate") engine.  All three (AMT, MPC, Revell) kits had the Cease-Fire (er, "Cross-Fire") injected engine with a manual transmission.  Again, GM cheaped out and didn't do emissions testing on that setup, requiring the automatic with that engine.

Yes on the Chevy V8 in the Firebird - confirmed with the son of Pontiac historian John Swaruk (also a modeler and collector.) Underhood architecture of the thirgend Firebird was engineered to fit the low-deck 265-301- 301T. Select structure is different compared to Camaro as well. One of my books has a pic of a '82 dressed with the offset "Formula" hood and Appliance "Turbo" wheels, with minor spats for front and rear wheelwells.... coulda, shoulda....

The backstory is that Pontiac was seeing sales declines in the 50%-70% range in major metros, and facingcancellation and full absorption by Buick who outsold Chevy for a few quarters then. Killing the full size Bonneville/Catalina and midsize LeMans as well as the 301 engine was an act of self-sacrifice to pave the way for a more efficient future, symbolixed by Fiero that would occupy most of the facilities that would be idled. Have also heard Pontiac was not willing to share the 301T powertrian with Chevy - having absorbed all the development costs. Regardless, the 301T Firebird was an easy 7.5 0-60 / 15.0 level performer, outstanding in the era. Planning to build same in 1/16 and 1/24 when the shop is set up and running. 

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The Mojave Mule looks like a pretty simple extension of the Monogram LUV pickup.

Not Many parts in it. It should be an easy build.

Notice that the prominent "Off-Road Research, Ventura California are missing. Not a big deal to me, but it might matter to others.

This my Favorite of the LUV trucks. I might be getting one.

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