Eshaver Posted June 27, 2011 Posted June 27, 2011 Kevin, I used to work on a 50 Hudson for a friend . I've seen several shots and I would buy one . Yes , i'll be doing one as a support member in one of my dioramas too. The rivet counters , hummmmmm, throw them in the BAYOU !!!!!!!!! Ed Shaver
Dave Metzner Posted June 28, 2011 Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) Latest news: One last set of Hudson test shots is en route to me now. I have every reason to believe that the last few minor details will be dealt with and we can tell the factory to crank up mass injection! Instruction sheet and decals are all in the works and should be done shortly... Box is done.. I hate to keep saying it'll be a few weeks later than the last time I posted - right now I think we can expect shipment from the factory in early August.. arival in stores by early September - I'm really sorry that this is taking so long... Thanks to everyone for being patient... On another subject - we finally got the last body shape issues worked out on C300 and tooling revisions for the body should be under way...I'll try to post more information as soon as I see an updated schedule for it... These two cars have been a learning experience for us - hopefully new projects will proceed at a better pace... there were mistakes made on these that we won't repeat again! Dave Edited June 28, 2011 by Dave Metzner
Zoom Zoom Posted June 28, 2011 Posted June 28, 2011 Thanks for the update, glad to hear that you're working diligently on getting it right...that's more important than getting it "right now" anytime I'm really looking forward to building both the Hudson and the 300, and likely multiples.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted June 28, 2011 Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) What Bob said. I'll take a do-right over a do-over any time, and I'm glad you all have been so positive and constructive in addressing the issues that came up. That Lone Star is AMAZING, btw... Edited June 28, 2011 by Chuck Kourouklis
Danno Posted June 29, 2011 Posted June 29, 2011 Thanks, Dave, for doing everything you've been doing to get it righter than right! And, that Lone Star is awesome!! Great job on that kit! Keep them coming like that one, and you guys will have job security for life! THANKS!!!!
Chuck Most Posted July 1, 2011 Posted July 1, 2011 Thanks, Dave, for doing everything you've been doing to get it righter than right! And, that Lone Star is awesome!! Great job on that kit! Keep them coming like that one, and you guys will have job security for life! THANKS!!!! I'll second that! The Lonestar is THE new benchmark in terms of semi-tractor kits, as far as I'm concerned. Cannot WAIT to get my hands on a couple of these Hudsons!
sjordan2 Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) In case you haven't seen it, there is some very nice photography in the 1:1 reference section on a '53 4-door. http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=45428 Edited July 10, 2011 by sjordan2
Luc Janssens Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 (edited) Was surfing the net and was wondering if there would be anything new on Dave Metzner's photo album...then I noticed that the Hudson Hornet test shot album was updated 7 days ago...so here goes... Click here Edited July 10, 2011 by Luc Janssens
SteveG Posted July 10, 2011 Posted July 10, 2011 Is that a convertible hudson i spy?? I was just wondering the same thing ..... that's what it looks to me. I sure hope so ....
Chuck Most Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 (edited) I'll roll my own drop-top Hudson, thank you! Edited July 11, 2011 by Chuck Most
charlie8575 Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Wow. That is absolutely incredible. I'm working on color schemes now. Charlie Larkin
Art Anderson Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 Moebius has said all along that there would be a convertible version. A Hudson Hornet convertible was a no-brainer, given how Hudson made them to begin with. Hudson never engineered any specific convertible body for any of their "Monobilt" cars (Monobilt began in the late 1930's, was perhaps the most commercially successful unibody construction until first Volkswagen then Nash entered the unit body arena). Since convertibles were very slow sellers for most American carmakers in those years, Hudson engineers decided to merely cut the roof off a coupe, add in a bit more body reinforcement, design a folding top mechinism--styling came up with new interiors--and the their convertible was born. This was the direct opposite of the couvertible vs hardtop thing with the beginning of "hardtop" coupe production at Buick in 1949: Pillarless hardtops from the Big Three from 1950 until the early 1960's were simply convertible bodies with a solid steel top welded on, often all the various mounting points for the convertible top and mechanism remaining inside the body structure itself. So, just as AMT, JoHan, and MPC did with their classic 3in1 Annual series kits of the 1960's, doing a convertible version of the Hudson was a rather simple concept--just a couple of tooling inserts. Art
Art Anderson Posted July 11, 2011 Posted July 11, 2011 the picture posted above by JPJ as well as some in the link confirm what i had suspected with the rear suspension. the rear axle does apparently glue to the frame rails with the leaf springs glueing to the axle and frame both. so much for scale realistic suspension travel the good part though is it looks like the spindles are made for poseable steering? that is a plus in my book. with the generous rear wheelwells, i'm definitely going either 90's pro street with this one or some kind of drag car It does seem to me that any modeler worth his salt should be able to remove that locating pin for rear axle to frame--bear in mind that with suspension travel, the Step-Down Hudsons had relatively little upward suspension movement--those cars rode pretty low to begin with), but upon lifting the car off the ground, the rear axle dropped down considerably--it had too in order to facilitate a tire change, as on the actual car, there is a frame rail OUTBOARD of the rear wheels, which on this kit had to be merely hinted at, by "stubs" at either end of the rear wheel well as seen on the under-frame (this due to the necessary material thicknesses of any plastic model car kit. So, to me, the issue of "mounting the rear axle to the frame rail kickup" is a non-issue--it won't be seen at all easily. Also, in real life, to seriously lower this series of Hudson would have meant some very serious underframe rework, given the already low stance of the car, and of course, that it is a very complex unit body construction. Next question? Art
SteveG Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 Moebius has said all along that there would be a convertible version. I must have missed that part of the annoucement and apparently I'm not the only one from what I've seen posted about the subject here and there. I only recall some NASCAR variations being mentioned. Regardless I'm very glad to see it in plastic. I'll take it as another great sign of things to come from Moebius. Is it too soon to offer a big thanks to Dave, Art and all the other who helped on this project. -Steve
High octane Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 It isn't here yet! That's okay if it isn't here yet as nice as the kit sounds, I'm going to pass on it and I do expect to buy the 300 kit whenever it is released.
niteowl7710 Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 All of the various version of this kit were discussed in great detail with Art in the chat room many months ago. Apparently when it isn't the pit of all the evil that permeates MCM, it occasionally has interesting and informative discussions. If anyone didn't know about the convertible version or any of the other versions, lack of participation on your part, doesn't constitute an emergency on Moebius'
SteveG Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 All of the various version of this kit were discussed in great detail with Art in the chat room many months ago. Apparently when it isn't the pit of all the evil that permeates MCM, it occasionally has interesting and informative discussions. If anyone didn't know about the convertible version or any of the other versions, lack of participation on your part, doesn't constitute an emergency on Moebius' I'll bet out of the 7814 members we currently have here, about 7800 probably weren't in the chat room at that time. I can only begin to imagine how that would work with everyone in there. Let me know the time and date you want everbody participating so I can be there and watch the crash ....
niteowl7710 Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 I'll bet out of the 7814 members we currently have here, about 7800 probably weren't in the chat room at that time. I can only begin to imagine how that would work with everyone in there. Let me know the time and date you want everbody participating so I can be there and watch the crash .... I think Saturday at 9:30pm Eastern works for me.
sjordan2 Posted July 12, 2011 Posted July 12, 2011 (edited) I'll bet out of the 7814 members we currently have here, about 7800 probably weren't in the chat room at that time. I can only begin to imagine how that would work with everyone in there. Let me know the time and date you want everbody participating so I can be there and watch the crash .... It wasn't just in the chat room, where I never go. It was posted on a normal thread. But no big deal. Not everyone can be expected to follow every post on every thread, and this subject has multiple threads with a zillion posts. The good part is you don't have to create your own convertible. Anyway, I'm like everyone else and I can't wait to see the first builds of this kit. Edited July 12, 2011 by sjordan2
Art Anderson Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 OK, time for another installment in the "Saga of the Hudson"! This time, hood hinges: Ya know how, all these years, if you wanted to display your model car with the hood open, to show off all that fantastic engine detailing, but had to use a toothpick, a bent-up paper clip, whatever; in order to prop up the hood? Well, the Moebius Hudson kits have not only scale hood hinges (non-functioning, but still!) ALONG with the springloaded "scissors" hood supports that Hudson used through 1954 (in fact, most automakers used this sort of hood support until at least 1949 or so). Here's a pic, to show what I mean: Art
sjordan2 Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) A little thick, aren't they? Thick, maybe. But looks like it's not too far off for an experienced builder to deal with. Edited July 15, 2011 by sjordan2
Harry P. Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 Tick, maybe. But looks like it's not too far off for an experienced builder to deal with. Yeah, they can be fixed. But the obvious question is, why not make them correct in the first place?
Art Anderson Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 A little thick, aren't they? Well GEEZ!!!!!!!! With styrene, Harry, there sometimes ARE compromises! So, get Korunow to do some in PE perhaps? Art
Harry P. Posted July 15, 2011 Posted July 15, 2011 Well GEEZ!!!!!!!! With styrene, Harry, there sometimes ARE compromises! So, get Korunow to do some in PE perhaps? Art Come on, Art... There are countless styrene pieces in model kits that are thinner than those tree trunk hood supports. I've built enough models in my day to know that you can injection-mold parts way thinner than those hood supports. Maybe they made the supports extra beefy because they thought they needed to be, in order to hold up the hood (which I doubt)... but there's no injection molding technology-based reason why they have to be so thick. Sorry, not buying the "necessary compromises" story.
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