charlie8575 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 The one thing that I don't quite get about this is how Revell loves to use the same tire for multiple kits, thus it seems like they could spread the cost out over those several kits (which I'm sure is what they did in the past). Granted, the other thing they could do is go to some of the smaller companies that aren't owned by any of the big ones. i have no problem with sharing tires; one tire could be (and usually is) appropriate for many cars. What I have a problem with is using the wrong style of tires.Charlie Larkin
charlie8575 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Well, I picked up my kit, and what to my wondering eyes should not appear, but the oil filler tube that was on the pre-production sample is not in the kit from what I'm seeing. It's an easy fix. But one I shouldn't have to make.Charlie Larkin
Luc Janssens Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Yea. That fraction a cent in styrene would be a real hindered to production costs. Just like making something correct the first time around is such a problem. Every cavity comes with a cost factor, a number I heard a couple of years ago was, that it leveled out as $1000 per cavity x2= $2000.
niteowl7710 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Every cavity comes with a cost factor, a number I heard a couple of years ago was, that it leveled out as $1000 per cavity x2= $2000.Assuming that figure is correct that's a price raise of 40 CENTS (based of a run of 5k kits) to correctly replicate arguably one of the signature pieces of the 1:1.
Lownslow Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Got mine didnt hesitate in upgrading, im getting even bigger ones than these
charlie8575 Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 A Flat hood there will be next young Jedi.Hopefully separately-molded grilles, too. If you were to build a Calais (the most easily-replicated model with what's in the box,) the chromed grille with black and dark argent accents will be a pain with it molded to the shovel-nose like that.Charlie Larkin
dshue76 Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 I should have my kits next week. I am pretty sure the old Good Year GT Radials that Revell used to use will fit and are the correct tire for a factory new 1983 H/O Cutlass. The lightning rod shifters are a pretty useful item. You can't over shift with them and they are more streetable than aftermarket ratchet shifters.
Lownslow Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 I should have my kits next week. I am pretty sure the old Good Year GT Radials that Revell used to use will fit and are the correct tire for a factory new 1983 H/O Cutlass. The lightning rod shifters are a pretty useful item. You can't over shift with them and they are more streetable than aftermarket ratchet shifters.Youre better off getting tires from Chief Joseph
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 It rook to me rike plopoltions got sclewed again. Maybe camela angre, but flont end rook too rong and pointy on modre. Arso, bottom rine of nose too frat. Shourd come up in flont a rittre, but is too high arr way arong.
bismarck Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) Now that i have seen a side by side pic, yeah, i can see the nose length thing. Never noticed it till now. Well, out come's the razor saw once again..... *****Sigh**** Performing plastic surgery and a nose job. Edited May 8, 2016 by bismarck
dshue76 Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 (edited) I think anything you are seeing is due to camera angle. The 1;1 pic makes the car look short. It's the effect of showing more of the hood surface. If you ever get a chance to see one in person you will get it. The issue I have is the horizontal lower body line, it's either too high or maybe the bend is just too soft. Could be both. But it won't stop me from building. I've been waiting for a G Body Cutlass since the early 90's. Now that mine are on their way I'm going to my local hobby shop to pick up the Buick GN and 86 Elky kits and I'm going to scour the bay for the Monte SS and 80 Monte kits. Here is a question, on a G Body forum a guy made reference to having built a G Body Malibu kit, was their ever such a kit? I don't remember ever seeing one.Also claret red should be the perfect color for the interior, the shade does not change between the plastic, vinyl and cloth just the sheen. Olds called the color dark maple from 81 to 88 but prior it was dark claret red, which is an actual color although rather hard to find in paint these days. The Dupli Color Chrysler claret red isn't right. Edited May 8, 2016 by dshue76
1972coronet Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 Here is a question, on a G Body forum a guy made reference to having built a G Body Malibu kit, was their ever such a kit? I don't remember ever seeing one. The only G-body / A-Special Malibu kit I've seen was the Monogram 1/32 scale police car kit . Not sure if any resin kits are available of the G-Malibu , but then agin I *think* that I saw a resin 1980 coupe (2-door) . As a side note ; the 4 door sedan G-Malibu's rear door glass was fixed-in-place ( !! ) . Perfect for police use
dshue76 Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 The only G-body / A-Special Malibu kit I've seen was the Monogram 1/32 scale police car kit . Not sure if any resin kits are available of the G-Malibu , but then agin I *think* that I saw a resin 1980 coupe (2-door) . As a side note ; the 4 door sedan G-Malibu's rear door glass was fixed-in-place ( !! ) . Perfect for police use All of the G Body 4 door cars had fixed rear glass, it was due to the door reinforcement bars. But you did get a wing window back there, Power was an option for that little trinket as well.
SSNJim Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 The only G-body / A-Special Malibu kit I've seen was the Monogram 1/32 scale police car kit . Not sure if any resin kits are available of the G-Malibu , but then agin I *think* that I saw a resin 1980 coupe (2-door) . As a side note ; the 4 door sedan G-Malibu's rear door glass was fixed-in-place ( !! ) . Perfect for police use I do have an stock 1980 or so 2 dr Malibu coupe in resin. I picked it up second-hand at a show, so I don't know who made it. Molded in yellowish resin, lots of flash, no chrome plating, and two small holes in each side. I think it was intended as a slot car body.
dshue76 Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 SEM should have the correct interior color in rattle cans.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 I think anything you are seeing is due to camera angle. The 1;1 pic makes the car look short. It's the effect of showing more of the hood surface. If you ever get a chance to see one in person you will get it. "If you ever get a chance to see one in person you will get it"? Get what? My second to last significant other had a 1:1, I looked at it for years, I have rather a lot of design and photo interpretation experience (including scaling from photos), and I agree it MAY be camera angle...but I don't think so. I'll buy the damm kit and measure a real one.
Rob Hall Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 I do have an stock 1980 or so 2 dr Malibu coupe in resin. I picked it up second-hand at a show, so I don't know who made it. Molded in yellowish resin, lots of flash, no chrome plating, and two small holes in each side. I think it was intended as a slot car body.AFAIK there have been at least 4 resin '79-80 Malibu coupes, of varying quality. I have one by Southern Motorsports Hobbies molded in white, Bandit Resins offers one, Perry's Resin used to have one, and R&R had one (didn't look very accurate in pics I've seen).
gtx6970 Posted May 8, 2016 Posted May 8, 2016 I was in one of the local hobby shops yesterday . They had maybe 4 or 5 of these. I just could not get excited about buying one. I walked out with nuttin but paint for some other builds I have in the wings
dshue76 Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 "If you ever get a chance to see one in person you will get it"? Get what? My second to last significant other had a 1:1, I looked at it for years, I have rather a lot of design and photo interpretation experience (including scaling from photos), and I agree it MAY be camera angle...but I don't think so. I'll buy the damm kit and measure a real one. I DO look at 1:1 versions daily, today, yesterday, tomorrow etc and have for years, these cars in 1:1 are my hobby. I'll measure my 1:1 and the kit and see for myself.
charlie8575 Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 The nose does look a tad long, but I'm also wondering if the camera angle might be doing it. I can see the slight rake in the header unit; it's barely noticeable on the real car, as well. I will agree that lower crease is a smidge high.It still looks very good overall, though. About the only complaints I have are the missing filler tube and that they molded the grilles as part of the nose, which is going to be a real PITA to alter or chrome if someone decides to do another model of Cutlass.Charlie Larkin
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 I DO look at 1:1 versions daily, today, yesterday, tomorrow etc and have for years, these cars in 1:1 are my hobby. I'll measure my 1:1 and the kit and see for myself. Doug, I certainly didn't mean to be rude or to imply you don't know what you're looking at. Though there is some lens distortion apparent in the photo of the model above, what bugs me most every time I compare the two shots is that the upper angle of the 'beak' where the bumper protrudes forward of the grille appears to me to be too flat, making the protrusion of the leading edge of the bumper necessarily too far forward, when compared to the real car. Another way to say it is that, to me, the angle between the plane of the headlight door in the header and the top surface of the bumper appears to be wrong on the model, and perhaps the height of the headlight opening contributes to the appearance. It's impossible for me to tell from Frank's model shot exactly what the relationship is between the height of the headlight opening and the seam between the header panel and the upper bumper cap. I've always thought these were quite handsome cars, and it's great to have a newly tooled kit of one, but again, to me, the initial impression of the real car doesn't suggest quite the snow-plow effect I see on the model.
sfhess Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 Here is a question, on a G Body forum a guy made reference to having built a G Body Malibu kit, was their ever such a kit? I don't remember ever seeing one.Southern Motorsport Hobbies sells a pretty nice resin 79 Malibu 2-door. I have one, and it looks like a good fit on the Cutlass chassis. The other G-body chassis aren't even close.http://stores.smhracing.com/79-malibu/
JohnD Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 The front end may be a little off but that isn't as bad as the quarter window which doesn't come down far enough or that upper body line they added above the door handle. I'll still buy at least one but it's going to take a lot to make it look right.
Ace-Garageguy Posted May 9, 2016 Posted May 9, 2016 The front end may be a little off but that isn't as bad as... that upper body line they added above the door handle.... In all fairness to Revell, though it's hard to see it in some pix of the real car, there IS a stamped character line that runs down the side of the entire car, including above the door handle.
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