mikemodeler Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Hopefully they correct the door issue, otherwise there will be a 20 page thread on how awful Revell is at bringing us new models. I see at least one of these making it's way to the collection/build pile. Thanks, Mike
unclescott58 Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Hopefully they correct the door issue, otherwise there will be a 20 page thread on how awful Revell is at bringing us new models. I see at least one of these making it's way to the collection/build pile. Thanks, Mike That's my fear Mike, the 20 pages of complaining. If it's wrong, I too hope they fix it to prevent the complaining. I think it looks okay as it is. But, I'm not as picky as others. Scott Edited August 4, 2014 by unclescott58
Jaguar man 21 Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Every picture of the torino kit I see the more Impatient I become
ianguilly Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Oh god it will be the mustang lx all over again.
lordairgtar Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 I hope it does get fixed or it's just a goofy lens issue.
blubaja Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 That's my fear Mike, the 20 pages of complaining. If it's wrong, I too hope they fix it to prevent the complaining. I think it looks okay as it is. But, I'm not as picky as others. Scott You know dem well Revell isn't going to fix it lol. As much as ford supposedly has an iron first with their likeness and licenses, I really can not understand how they continuously allow companies like revell to deface their heritage. Buying any revell products makes me feel like I'm just getting a marked up Chinese knock off of American products, with an American company's brand name. Theres so many ill conceived products from the get go:( And you're right. 20+ pages to discuss about a kits issues. With useless posts because they disagree with your thoughts.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Well if anybody's heads wanna explode Scanners-style over this, by all means, don't let me stop you - but that Torino's an order of magnitude better for proportions than The Kit That Must Not Be Named. High belt line? Possibly, especially looking at where the door handle lands. But I'm thinking the rear quarter window has been installed a bit too far backwards, and that by itself can throw the entire relation of the DLO elements off. So far it's looking like a few file strokes (and maybe filling in the front marker lights and using the decals) are all that's necessary to sort this one out. And that's an entirely different story than what you need for the other one.
Chuck Kourouklis Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Thanks, Gerry! Okay, a few more filing strokes, maybe. But abrasives will ilkely solve the problems, as opposed to a full roof transplant.
blubaja Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 LOL@revell and everyone else that finds no issues with this. You deserve it.
azers Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Ill get the files and sandpaper out. Thanks revell for the Torino. Now I can quit bidding on those overpriced johan kits on eBay.
Exotics_Builder Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 I am no fan of the Torino nor, personally, would have made it a choice to offer if I worked at Revell. But it does appear to me from the picture I found that the back side window and roof sail panel need tweaking. Those deeply familiar with the real car and actually have access to one or accurate photos (versus personal recollections), need to speak up even though this is a test shot. As an example when the 65 Impala from Revell came out, it seemed to me, by recollections, pretty straight on since my parents had a 65 SS. When I compared it to photos of my parent's car (even though old Brownie Camera image quality) and seeing ones at shows, you could see some mishaps. Even so, I pulled out an AMT 65 and found it wasn't totally accurate either. Keep in mind, folks, when I go to shows or find out model info, I don't allow my personal interests/biases to interfere. I just try to collect info and get the best photos I can so the community is aware. Thanks,
Paul H Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Here's the Revell AG automotive future releases that were announced earlier today in their email newsletter: BMW M1 PROCAR Product number: 07242 Scale 1:24 Bentley Blower Product number: 07007 Scale 1:24 Porsche 911 Carrera Cabrio Product number: 07063 Scale 1:24 I'm guessing that the Porsche and the BMW are reissues as I've seen both before in Revell AG boxing (isn't the Porsche originally an Italeri tool?), but does anyone know anything about the Bentley? Wondering if this will be a new tool, or simply a rebox / reissue of the excellent older Heller kit?
johnbuzzed Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) You know dem well Revell isn't going to fix it lol. As much as ford supposedly has an iron first with their likeness and licenses, I really can not understand how they continuously allow companies like revell to deface their heritage. Buying any revell products makes me feel like I'm just getting a marked up Chinese knock off of American products, with an American company's brand name. Theres so many ill conceived products from the get go:( And you're right. 20+ pages to discuss about a kits issues. With useless posts because they disagree with your thoughts. "Ill conceived"? Hardly. Poorly executed is a better description. As has been stated in the pages of these forums, time and time again: there is no such thing as a perfect model and no one is forcing any one to buy anything. But I must wonder aloud, again: With today's technology, so much reference material and the availability of the real thing in most (if not all) instances, how can "they" screw things up? The more important question might be : "Why?" Edited August 4, 2014 by johnbuzzed
Rob Hall Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 I remember the Porsche in the '90s in Revell AG packaging, shown in blue IIRC.
Matt T. Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 ... With today's technology, so much reference material and the availability of the real thing in most (if not all) instances, how can "they" screw things up? The more important question might be : "Why?" I'm with ya, John. It's as if technology has made it more difficult to scale down an accurate representation. AMT and MPC could do it 30, 40, 50 years ago. Why can't Revell get subtle body lines, wheel arches, body creases, etc. correct?
JTalmage Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Door is definitely too tall on the Torino. Looks like an easy fix though. I will definitely buy a few.
Danno Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 (edited) Guys, guys, guys. It's a test shot. It's not the finished model. Let them work it out and fix what they're going to fix. They do test shots to check the parts fit, ease of assembly, and to assure the product looks right. If it doesn't pass those 'tests' they send it back and work it over. At least give them a chance to fix it before the bonfires begin. If they don't, then crank up the vitriol while Mike Schnur and Greg Wann whip up another accurate resin body to fix it for them again. Edited August 4, 2014 by Danno
Dave Van Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Thanks for the side by side Gerry........ I'll wait until I have the kit in hand before I say anything negative....but I like it so far. IF, and only if it's proven to be off, IF it's wrong maybe it's a case of too much technology?? I helped out on a few research projects for kits made by Monogram many years ago. The then designer told me a number of times that if he copied the car 100% scale it would look wrong. Scaled down the model often needs a little tweek to make it look right. Many of the kits he did the research and design on are looked at as near perfect even through they contain small areas that are 'wrong' if scaled up.....but these alterations gave it the perfect look. That or we are hyper critical today over yesterday......
Dave Van Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Door is definitely too tall on the Torino. Looks like an easy fix though. I will definitely buy a few. That will be an easy one to check......pull a JoHan kit and digital calipers and go to town....the 72 and 76 door skins are the same.
Exotics_Builder Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Thanks for the side by side Gerry........ I'll wait until I have the kit in hand before I say anything negative....but I like it so far. IF, and only if it's proven to be off, IF it's wrong maybe it's a case of too much technology?? I helped out on a few research projects for kits made by Monogram many years ago. The then designer told me a number of times that if he copied the car 100% scale it would look wrong. Scaled down the model often needs a little tweek to make it look right. Many of the kits he did the research and design on are looked at as near perfect even through they contain small areas that are 'wrong' if scaled up.....but these alterations gave it the perfect look. That or we are hyper critical today over yesterday...... Point taken on scale reduction. For example, the Tamiya Ferrari 360 Modena looks very much prototypical when built. But in checking it out, it is wider than the actual car dimensions and the tires are almost F1 size, not spec size. But it looks right. Anyway, it is a test shot and hopefully it will be adjusted.
johnbuzzed Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 OK, it's a "test shot" and yes, I am familiar with the term. But, do the molds for the test shot not cost the same as the actual production mold? Granted, there might be just one set of test shot molds (which might make them even more costly), but if you're going to spend the money to try to make money, why not get it right the first time when you have everything you need to do so? Back in modeling's stone age, a lot of manufacturers used to advertise that their kits were scaled from actual factory blueprints, or words to that effect. But we don't see that anymore. We are left to our own to determine if the model is accurate or not- and then, wonder why. I would rather build a kit that was advertised as being dimensionally accurate with all the correct contours, body and panel lines, etc- especially if the manufacturer backed up that info in the kit, on the instruction sheet or box or whatever- than build a kit that was "tweaked" to make it look "right". In whose mind should it be "right"? Think of the song "Dude (looks like a lady)".
Chuck Kourouklis Posted August 4, 2014 Posted August 4, 2014 Yup, John, right as rain. I've always known Tamiya erred on the side of "too wide" for its tires, and now I've got confirmation on why the 360 looks just that wee bit rotund. The Fujimi 430 doesn't seem to have any of that - wonder if they also saw fit to tease it some.
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