The70judgeman Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Based on your drawing in your first pic...you're gonna have a mess everywhere when you airbrush/spray. The fan will blow your overspray all over the place...not entirely out the window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_boscaiolo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Ok I think I can prevent that by placing the fan up to 4 or so meters back from the table and I'm covering everything with white plastic sheeting and then lowering psi on the compressor to lower overspray. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randx0 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 if you are sticking to an airbrush and waterbased paints a simple cardboard box seems easier . as long as you don't go crazy and paint for hours at a time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclescott58 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Your from Australia? It looks like you've got snow outside your window in that one picture. What am I seeing there? Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbaBrown Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Toxic or not you better have a spray booth to paint in or dust, paint everywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_boscaiolo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Do you mean I should just hold the parts over a large open box on the table and airbrush? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_boscaiolo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Your from Australia? It looks like you've got snow outside your window in that one picture. What am I seeing there? Scott Intense sunlight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Hand Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 If your dead set on painting indoors in that room and on a regular basis, I think you would be far better of investing in a spray booth. One these booths would do the job and not overly expensive. http://www.hobbytools.com.au/airbrush-spray-booth-suit-case-style/ Also you can get this extension hose that you can direct and vent the fumes out the window. http://www.hobbytools.com.au/spray-booth-extension-hose-exhaust-kit-for-suit-case-style-booth/ Or you can check out hardware stores for flexible ducting that will fit on the back of the booth outlet. If you are unable to purchase a booth, then just do your painting outdoors and then bring the painted parts back indoors to dry I paint outdoors in the shed using spray cans and the airbrush when it aint sweltering hot. If you need some help with setting up an area and tips for painting outdoors send me a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_boscaiolo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 If your dead set on painting indoors in that room and on a regular basis, I think you would be far better of investing in a spray booth. One these booths would do the job and not overly expensive. http://www.hobbytools.com.au/airbrush-spray-booth-suit-case-style/ Also you can get this extension hose that you can direct and vent the fumes out the window.http://www.hobbytools.com.au/spray-booth-extension-hose-exhaust-kit-for-suit-case-style-booth/ Or you can check out hardware stores for flexible ducting that will fit on the back of the booth outlet. If you are unable to purchase a booth, then just do your painting outdoors and then bring the painted parts back indoors to dry I paint outdoors in the shed using spray cans and the airbrush when it aint sweltering hot. If you need some help with setting up an area and tips for painting outdoors send me a pm. Yeah I had seen that model actually. So as far as fumes etc goes would my setup be ok? I may one day invest in a booth and maybe use a cardboard box for the moment with the fan on low to vent fumes through the window. My main concern here is the fumes and whether or not they would linger after airbrushing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cool Hand Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 In my opinion the set up you want to use will direct some of the fumes out the window, but being that the room is sort of a confined space the fan will more than likely create turbulence and stir up the fumes and over spray dust and spread it more through out the room. The fumes will dissipate in a short amount of time with the fan if you are only doing short paint sessions. More than anything I think the real issue will be the over spray dust even with the airbrush. Like I said thats just my opinion and 2 cents, I sure some people with more knowledge will hopefully provide additional comments and opinions based on their experience with painting indoors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Smith Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 As stated above, the fan will blow dust onto your project and circulate all the paint fumes around the room - some out the window, some back around and through the fan again and repeat... You really want somethkng to draw the fumes out instead of blowing them out, so even placing the fan right in front of the window and blowing outside would work better, but still not a good choice if your using paints like Mr Topcoat. You should get a big box with a fan of some sort - do some research as there is debates about which to use - that draws air out of the box and directly out the window. Squirrel cage fans work the best but are more expnsive - they move a lot of air and the motor is not in the fume stream. I think the fan and open window would be fine for hand painting and body putty stuff, just not for spraying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister 4x4 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 For hand-brushing and dispersing the fumes a bit, sure - why not (although I would consider putting the fan next to the window, to "pull" the fumes, rather than "push" them). For airbrushing, spray painting with cans, or otherwise sending paint through the air: absolutely not. Light a match or something that generates smoke, and see what happens with the fan where you want it, and on the other side closer to the window. I can guarantee you having the fan where you indicate will disperse the "smoke" (fumes, etc.) throughout the room and some (maybe even most) will make it out the window. If you put the fan closer to the window, you'll notice the smoke (fumes, smell, etc.) will get sucked away from the work and out the window. This is also the same principle a paint booth works on - pulling the fumes vs. pushing. It's much easier to redirect airflow using suction than Not to mention, having the fan where you propose will blow any dust or whatever else is in the air directly onto your work while the paint is wet, and possibly blow some of the lighter objects right off your desk as well. But hey - if you want overspray all over that nice room, your furniture, cool TV, and laptop (thus pissing off the wife and/or mom) - go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
le_boscaiolo Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Fair enough. I was thinking other particles would get caught up in it, Ive since researched for that same spray booth and found one at a much more managable price that includes piping to vent out fumes through the window. And the tv will be partially covered up as woth anything else in the room thanks for the concern. This coupled with the respirator should run without a hitch no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnslow Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Decided I needed a spray booth to replace the cardboard box I was using to spray in. A neighbor was tossing a large projector screen TV and I thought the shape was right for what I wanted. So I gutted it, put in a floor of coroplast (plastic cardboard) and sealed it with expandable foam. I had some vacuum motors from a bank tear down to move the air, they were used to move the cylinders from the drive thru to the bank and have brushless motors, the main filters are behind the white fluff in the corners. The motor is supported on 2 pieces of 2x4 and a metal flange that is part of the motor assembly. The rest is a 3" to 2" reducer, a 2" T and 2" tubing cut to length. The valve in the motor assembly is 2" so reducing it won't affect the performance. I put a floor of pegboard in and a 24" light fixture. And a turntable. An old power strip screwed to the side provides a place to pug in everything and it's ready to go. Hope to get some painting done tomorrow to test it out. Now I need to build a roll around table for it to sit on, need to raise it 24" to a comfortable height to work at. Edited February 3, 2015 by oldnslow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
64SS350 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Looks great! Just a thought to watch for during testing, Being as the cabinet is plastic, it may tend to have static issues. I used MDF board for mine and the vac system created a fair amount of static during painting. Make sure the motor is grounded also. Awesome idea, keep us updated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
my80malibu Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Too cool. Neat idea with the vacuum motor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnslow Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 The motor is grounded as is the light. Might add some grounding strips to the back of the cabinet just to make sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobraman Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Outstanding idea ! I still use a cardboard box........... but it's a nice cardboard box ! : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miatatom Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 (edited) Great idea! I painted the inside of mine white to help with the light. I used the cheap Walmart paint and go over it whenever I doing housekeeping in the booth. My 70 year old eyes need a lot of light. I've just modified my booth for about the 4th or 5th time. I'll post some pics when I get to it. Edited February 16, 2015 by Miatatom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnslow Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Painting the inside is something I was considering, back to Home Depot for paint! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTalmage Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Thats a good idea to use an old TV... and to set it up as a down draft paint booth in genius. Too bad that thing is massive and heavy. Cool though!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyjim Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 Looks good Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnslow Posted February 4, 2015 Share Posted February 4, 2015 After I removed all of the electronics, it only weighs about 50#s. Easy to pick up, just awkward, or move as it has casters on the bottom. Thanks, Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1hobby1 Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 (edited) Hello everyone! So I have been debating on building a small paint booth for some time now and I do have some questions hopefully someone can help me out! I plan on using a plastic bin for the spray area, I found a great deal on a 50cfm bathroom exhaust fan on amazon, and will throw a filter in front of the fan. I usually spray my models with duplicolor products right from the can (I do not own an airbrush). I believe a 50cfm fan should be enough but what do you think? Would the 50cfm fan have enough power to suck the fumes and overspray? Has anyone on here made a similar style booth? Any help would be great! Thanks! Steve Edited February 15, 2015 by 1hobby1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belugawrx Posted February 15, 2015 Share Posted February 15, 2015 There are alot of good links, in here, regarding spray booths This topic always opens up a can of worms https://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDQQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.modelcarsmag.com%2Fforums%2F%3Fshowtopic%3D56874&ei=pK3gVL-mCcGBsQTZz4DADw&usg=AFQjCNF76crdP8VoLVAd4R7MuIXS74lTQg&sig2=pQTsRYEIFSgmpim01VE2Lg&bvm=bv.85970519,d.cWc&cad=rjt For my very limited airbrush work, I spray acrylics into a cardboard box, wearing a confo mask, and take all body work out into a warm garage Anyway good luck and Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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