Mark C.

Awesome news! You will definitely be getting some orders from me! Any thoughts on printing out GTO dashes for the Beaumonts as part of a conversion kit? Would save having to buy an extra kit just for the dash. Also wondering if there is any way to do emblems for the bodysides.

That’s fine for race cars, but my impression of the kit with the blue car on the box is that it is supposed to represent a street car that the average Joe could order from the dealer without some agreement that it would be used in competition… i.e. not a car that only high profile racers could get. That car would have a standard bench seat mounted on an adjustable steel seat track (and standard door panels, seat upholstery, etc.). I suspect the only reason that Moebius didn’t include this detail is budgetary in nature. IMHO, they figured that they got it close enough while staying within their budget, and that most people either wouldn’t notice, wouldn’t care, or would still buy the kit despite the shortcomings. Smart business, IMHO, though I still wish they had tooled up a correct baseline interior for it. The difference for me is small, like the difference between buying 1 kit or 2, but I think most won’t care.

They did, but it wasn’t a dedicated race car, but more like adding a roll cage to the stock interior, and headers, air cleaner, and other NASCAR style parts to an otherwise stock kit (with molded in exhaust on the chassis pan IIRC). It was good for a race version in that it didn’t have the vinyl roof that every stock version had to cover up the rear window plug, etc. As a kid, I thought it was awesome, but by modern standards, not a great NASCAR replica. That said, I imagine the Salvino’s kit will continue to use the chassis that looks like it was taken from a 1970s MPC NASCAR kit, which also isn’t ideal, but IIRC still looks great on the shelf. I will buy them when they come out.

Cool! Was it in one of the videos? I went to their Facebook page but didn’t see it by scrolling through the posts (without actually watching each video or clicking on each post). If somebody could narrow it down a little I’ll look further.

In case you are misunderstanding the point of my comments, I’m not slamming Atomic for bringing out a pricey (or reasonably priced, depending upon your POV) but high quality resin kit. There is a place for that, and in fact I have bought worse for more money in the past. I wish them all the success in the world, actually. The only thing that struck me a little odd is infusing the JoHan name into it, which I presume is to indicate that their business model is to clone long gone Jo-Han kits in resin form. I’m only speaking for myself, but my initial expectation was that they intended to produce cloned kits in plastic - so the only failure is myself misunderstanding their intentions. I did agree with the person who suggested that if they are basically another aftermarket resin producer, then perhaps this thread belongs in the forum meant for that, as it will expose the company to more people who are looking for resin kits (plus, as a resin producer they are not an “OEM” anymore more than Modelhaus was, for example), but really it’s not an important point. I get it that they are great guys that are known to forum members, and that some of you are actually helping them out. Hence my good wishes for their success. I don’t think there is any point of me discussing any further, as I don’t have anything more to add.

Glass half full vs half empty? There are more selections available to builders nowadays than I can ever recall, and kit quality continues to improve. While it’s not perfect (i.e. absolutely every kit I could ever dream of wanting is not available), what’s not to be happy about? How many models can you build in your lifetime, especially considering that most of us are not kids anymore… I don’t know what could be wrong with appreciating what we have and being happy about it. Perhaps some of us prefer to be miserable? ?

I did get the R2 cloned '66 Mustang FB as well... just didn't think to mention it. Got a few other R2 clones as well. '65 GTO, will get the '64 Malibu... If they choose to clone a '74 - '77 Camaro, I'm in on that as well. A '67 - '73 Mustang coupe would be a definite purchase from me. But I wouldn't turn down a cloned MPC '66 Monaco (wouldn't ever expect an all new kit of such esoteric subject matter). Love to see a newly engineered '68 - '74 AMX/Javelin kit, a stock first gen Barracuda, etc. to complete the pony car collection. So far I have the Revell Boss 351 and James Bond Mustangs, will get the Eleanor also. I don't really understand all the line drawing, TBH. I suspect most modelers buy kits for multiple reasons. Cloned old kits for nostalgia and subject matter, new state of the art kits for subject matter and modern details and kit engineering, etc. The bottom line is if the manufacturers are making money off it, then it's a success. While a lot of us like to muse over subject matter that we'd like to have, the point of my previous couple of posts are that there is a lot to pick from for almost every taste, including a lot of stuff that we wouldn't have reasonably expected some 10 - 20 years ago. I'll buy any kit, with the only requirement being that (1) I like it, and (2) it's reasonably priced. Doesn't have to be uber detailed, but it could be. Doesn't have to be a simple cloned kit, but it could be. To get back on topic, as much as I'd like a mid sixties Fury, $150-ish US isn't in the cards for me now (especially as a Canuck purchaser I have exchange rate, duties, exorbitant shipping costs, etc. tacked onto it. It's probably a $250 Cdn kit for me, which would buy 5 regularly priced kits that would make me just as happy (or 5 times happier, I suppose...). However, they will sell all they care to make, so it too will be a success!! Everybody's happy!

All the old kits for which the tooling was not supposed to exist any longer, or had been updated for year model changes. For example: ‘68 Coronet, ‘71 Demon, Nova wagon, ‘68 GTO, ‘60 and ‘63 Ford pickups, etc., etc. I am nothing but pleased to see these back on the shelves again. Collector pricing had made them unreachable for me. What’s not to be happy about?

Might work if the dimensions of the Camaro grille fit the Coronet opening. Not sure how I would make it work, though I’m sure someone of your skill level could pull it off. The taillights would still not look right unless you dremelled out the dividers and scratch built new lenses/housings. You could grind the ribs off the panels for sure. Or, for people with less motivation and lower skill levels such as myself, hope that somebody with the skills and equipment sees an opportunity to digitally print them and offer them as a kit. In the end it would look better than any scratch built conglomeration that I could come up with, plus there would be less photoetch sacrificed to the modeling gods… Thanks for the suggestions, though. For me it wouldn't be high enough on the priority list to attempt a conversion without a readily available kit... hence my involvement in this thread.

IIRC, the Charger 500 grille does not have the DODGE lettering. More importantly to me is the tail panel, which is quite different in that the R/T tail lights are separate vs being contained within a single trapezoid shape.

While all of these discussions are great, at the end of the day we all vote with our wallets, and the folks who are actually in the business and want to stay there will know what makes money and what doesn’t. While I enjoy discussing all the different kits I’d like to see, I have to say that I am more than happy with the state of the hobby these days, in that we get to see kits that I never would have dreamed of just 10 years ago. If it takes 40 different iterations of Camaros and Mustangs to do so, then “have at it”! I will get some of those as well. I wish the folks at Atomic all the success that they deserve. Even if I can’t afford their products at the moment, there is a market for them and I hope they can continue to grow their business. If they actually get to the point (and I don’t know if that’s their intention) of producing regular plastic Jo-Han kits someday, I will be over the moon, and will buy all that my budget allows. In the meantime, I will say “keep up the good work!”, and continue to watch from the sidelines… ??

Glad to help!

I just noticed that your website states that it’s 1/25 for item CD3-088. I assume it’s just a typo? Also, are your prices in USD or Cdn?

Good points on original vs resin copy. An original also comes with the mystique and nostalgia of being an actual piece that was made in the magical 1960s. The supply/demand aspect brings in higher prices from collectors who will never build the kit, but may just want to recapture all of the great memories of that time in their lives, or perhaps to settle a a yearning to get “one that got away”. A resin kit holds none of that. They are purely for builders who are willing to pay premium dollars for subject matter that they just have to put on their shelves. Apples and oranges, IMHO, except for the intersection of buyers who want to build vintage kits… but then the vintage kit holds an advantage if the price point is similar, due to the extra work and handling care that a resin kit requires. Here’s hoping the world of success for them, but to be brutally honest, for me it’s just another high priced resin kit that happens to have the Johan name attached. Money is much tighter these days, so I’m looking for bang for my buck, and right now the R2 reissues of long lost tools are getting most of my attention, along with the great new offerings from Moebius and Revell. Just my 2 cents…

Fingers crossed! ?

The Plymouth part is an entirely different animal. It would be nice to be able to do a ‘68 Super Bee. We would also need decals and preferably a low-line interior, with bench seat.

While we’re mulling over ideas, I would love to see some Acadian and Beaumont conversions based on some of the various Chevy II, Nova, and Chevelle kits out there… ?

Yes!!

I can appreciate that they are great guys, and that they are bringing out top quality resin kits, but IMHO that puts them in the same category as other aftermarket/resin producers, of which many are also good guys. Again IMHO, until they produce plastic kits in sufficient numbers and price point that everyone can get one, they are still niche resin producers, and this thread should be in that topic (for now). That said, I wish them all the best, and look forward to seeing them grow the brand to the point that they bring out cool plastic kits that I can afford.

Yes to the above, and I forgot to include ’70/‘71 Mercury Cyclone in my list.

Thanks. Here’s the link, for anybody interested: https://m.facebook.com/AtomicCityModelCars/ Their page says no pre-orders and I didn’t see any pricing info.

Do they have a website?

I would definitely go for a ‘61 Buick!

Yes, these too!

Admittedly, I will buy virtually any resurrected old AMT or MPC kit that Steve G and the fine people at R2 can get to the shelves. I’d be in on the Comet and Tempest, but perhaps even more: ’66 Skylark GS ’65-‘66 Dodge Monaco, Polara ’68-‘69 Impala ’66-‘69 Bonneville ’65 Olds 88 ’65-‘66 Barracuda in stock form ’73-‘74 Charger ’72 Road Runner ’73-‘74 Challenger ’67-‘68 Galaxie ’60 El Camino and Nomad wagon ’59-‘60 Buick, Pontiac ’63-‘64 Bonneville, Grand Prix ’58 Bonneville ’59 Galaxie, Edsel Etc… I could go on, but fear I will lose my audience…lol Really, any and all resurrected tools that we all thought were long gone just a few years ago, are a gift! Thanks Steve G. and Co.!!!