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Maybe I should have explained the terms myself when I did the post but no need now as Mark and Steve are correct. So it's not steering on the rear axle if that's what you thought. But some has most likely had the thought to have some kind of self steering at the rear to make the cars turn left easier, but I believe it's prohibited by the rules.

It came out very nice. I have always thought there was something wrong with the the AMT W925 appearence when finished and now I know what it is, it looks much better with the lowered hood and cab. Do you have an idea on how much you lowered them Doug?

A Pro Mod chassis has to meet SFI 25.1H specs and you might find something in this topic.

Well all of the AMT truck kits are old as they were originally issued between 1969 and 1982-83 with the main part of the truck kit releases in the early to mid 1970's, the first issue of this particular model kit came in 1972 as kit # T-817...so it for sure has it's flaws and issues.

Very nice executed model, I like these AMC "theme" cars.

Like Casey says, look for these symbols in later stages of the assembly instructions and it's quite clear as the radiator hoses and heater hoses has the same symbols. I don't know why Round 2 saw the need to change the instructions because on the instructions from the original issue there were numbers for the parts meant to attach there instead of the symbols...maybe a little easier. Picture from Drastic Plastic Model Car Club Fotki albums.

Yes, you need a bit more overhang of the dump body.

I think I have read somewhere that the 80's GM chassis had front steer and the Ford chassis had rear steer.

Yes the Freightliner FLC was first of the US truck kits from Italeri in 1986 followed by the Western Star 1989, the Superliner 1991, the Ford LTL 9000 1993 and the Aeromax 120 1994, the Freightliner FLD 1995, and it's not a big surprise the following kits after the Freightliner was based on that tool if you know how Italeri works with the shortcuts they usually takes with their kits. The Peterbilt 377 A/E came 1996 and the 378 1997, these are not based on the Freightliner tool as they got a Peterbilt chassis and a Detroit Diesel Series 60 engine.

Well I don't know if you can call the Italeri chassis "genenric", it's a Freightliner chassis with the FAS Airliner (Western Unit Stabilaire) rear suspension from the Freighliner FLC kit, the FLD kit uses the same chassis with updated FAS Airliner II suspension added but the older FAS Airliner is also in there. Most of the other makes (except for the Volvo VN) use the unaltered FLC chassis wich is quite wrong for them, all of them has the Cummins NTC and some got a few insignificant updates to the induction system to more look like N14's with air to air intercooler instead of water to air aftercooler, but the main part of the engine is still the same NTC. The other chassis Italeri used for US truck kits is for their Peterbilt 378 and 377 A/E with Air Leaf suspension and it's right for them and was not used for any of the other US truck kits.

You have to take in consideration that the main part of the AMT truck kits was first issued in the late 60's to mid 70's and the Italeri US truck kits are from the mid 80's and 90's so they are a couple of decades appart. The thing that bothers me most with the Italeri kits is the lack of accuracy and all the shortcuts taken during the development of the kits, the cabs looks good but the chassis, engine and drive trains are not allways correct as they basically did only two engine types and two chassis for all their US truck kits (Except for the Volvo VN), one chassis and a Detroit Diesel Series 60 engine for the Peterbilt kits wich is allright, and one chassis and Cummins NTC engine for all others wich originally came in the Freightliner kits wich it is right for, but not correct for any of the other makes.

Jenkins used Cragar Super Trick on this car as Cragar was one of his sponsors, and the ones Scott has are very nice. Many often call this type of wheel the wrong name most likely because they are so similar in design, but the Cragar Super Trick and the Centerline Auto Drag wheels are different when you compare them. The Centerline Auto Drag wheels are riveted together and the Cragar Super Trick wheels are bolted together and there are several more rivets on the Centerlines than there are bolts on the Cragars, the shape of the center are also slightly different between the two, so if you know what to look for you can tell wich wheel make it is.

Yes the hoods are the same on both years in the real World, the model kit hoods may not be interchangeable but they can be made to fit.

It came out very nice, good job.

This is the first place to go to for this, https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/ Here are the instructions you need. https://public.fotki.com/drasticplasticsmcc/mkiba-build-under-c/monogram-instructions/automotive-cars--pi/1-sort/monogram-20th-anniv/

You're welcome, unfortunately it's the only pic I have for the inside of that car and it's definately not the best, but one can see some stuff anyway.

Just a note regarding Caterpillar. I read somewhere that Caterpillar changed the color from Old Caterpillar Yellow, also known as Hi-Way Yellow, to New Cat Yellow on their machines in June 1979 and that could be the case with the engines too. So if that's correct the engines would be Cat Hi-Way Yellow from January 1932 until June 1979, after June 1979 New Cat Yellow. Kenworth had white engines through 1975 and Peterbilt through 1984, after that manufacurer colors, there are some exceptions to the rule where you can see engine manufacturer color before and white engines after thos dates.

Are these of any help?

AMT-Matchbox did a Volvo F10/F12, I think it was issued 1981 and you could build it as a regular or Globetrotter, Kit No PK-6130.

Here is a picture I have of the interior and roll cage of this car, not a good one but you can see the color anyway.

I don't have a clue. The lack of accuracy is the main reason for me not buying Italeri kits, I had a bunch of their Volvo and Scania kits from the 80's, 90's and early 2000's but I sold almost all of them off as I don't like to build inaccurate kits with outdated chassis and engines, and most of the kits are Euro spec 2-axle single drive tractors wich we don't have many of where I live, so to be able to build what I want I have to get resin and photo etched aftermarket parts for a fortune and I don't want to do that.

The Ertl 1/25th scale Volvo N10 has a TD100 and the N7-N10-N12 was available between 1973-88, what year the kit exactly is I don't know but it has to be somewhere around 1982-83ish, it's a US spec truck with a set forward front axle, the european version of these trucks had a set back front axle. The Ertl Peterbilt 359 has a Detroit Diesel 8V-71T or 8V-92T and as it has rectangular headlights it has to be from around 1980 and forward. If we go to the Italeri Volvo kits most of the kits have the old TD120F from the first F12 kit from 1981, but the later Volvo kits like the FH 12 series should have had a D12A, C, D and F, the TD162 for the F16, the TD16A and B for the FH16 series, past 2005 some of the Volvo kits should have the D13A, B, C, K, and D16C and E. The latest Volvo FH4 kit from 2018-19 did finally get the current D16 engine tho' I don't know if it's a G or K but it's a long sought after update. Here are the years for the Volvo truck models made as model kits from Ertl, Italeri/Testors, Revell Germany and AMT/Matchbox Volvo F10, F12, and F16 1977-1993. The F10 and F12 were launched in 1977 and the F16 was launched in 1987, the cab was upgraded 1983 with a higher roofline and 1987 with a different grille and headlight configuration, the Globetrotter cab came 1979. Volvo N7-N10-N12 1973-88, The N-series got upgrades to the hood with larger rectangular headlights instead of the previous dual round ones and a slightly longer hood to make room for the intercooler radiator late in it's life around 1985-86. Volvo VN-VNL 1996-Present, 2004 it got a revised hood, headlamps, fairings and interior Volvo FH First Generation 1993-98, Second Generation 1998-2002, Version 2 2002-2012, New FH (FH4) 2012-Present I believe all of the Italeri Scania kits has the old DS14 V8 from the first T142H kit also from 1981, the engines should have been updated to DSC14 for the later T and R142, 143 and R 144 kits and the DC16 for the later R164 and R-series kits like the R730, but they did not do that so all Scania kits from Italeri has the old outdated DS14 originally developed for the 1969 model year and isn't even in production anymore. Here are the years for the Scania Line of trucks wich some are available as model kits from Heller and Italeri/Testors. 0-series 50, 80, 85, 110, 140 (1968−74) 1-series 81, 86, 111, 141 (1974−81) 2-series 82, 92, 112, 142 (1980−88) 3-series 93, 113, 143 (1987−97) 4-series 94, 114, 124, 144, 164 (1995−2004) T-series (2004−05) - former part of the PRT-range (only available as resin conversion kit) R-series (different from the early R series from 1980) First Generation 2004-2016, Second Generation 2016-Present S-series 2016-Present

Well that's correct for a NASCAR version, they didn't use the Dana 60.

I took the liberty to modify Jim B's list according to my knowledge, it might still be some inaccuracies but I'll post it as is. Make Model Approximate Year Engine Make Engine Model Brand Type American-LaFrance 1000 Series 1970-74 Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Pumper/Aero/Ladder American-LaFrance Eagle 2002 (Curbside no engine) Trumpeter Pumper Autocar A64B 1970-71 Cummins NHC250 AMT Tractor Autocar DC9964 1970-71 Cummins NHC250 AMT Dumper Diamond-Reo C-11664DFL 1970-71 Cummins NTC350 AMT Tractor Chevrolet Titan 90 1976 Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Tractor Chevrolet Bison 1977-78 Detroit Diesel 8V-92N AMT Tractor Dodge L-700 1969 Dodge 361 V8 IMC/Lindberg Tractor Ford C600/C800/C900 1970-72 Ford Super Duty 534 V8 AMT Tractor/Stake/Van Ford LN8000/LNT8000 1973 Ford V175-225 (Caterpillar 1145-1160) AMT Tractor/Van/Dump/Plow Ford LTL9000 1983-84 Cummins NTC Italeri/Revell Tractor/Wrecker Ford LTA9000 Aeromax 104/106 1988? Cummins NTC Italeri/Revell Tractor Ford LTLA9000 Aeromax 120 1991-1997ish Cummins NTC Italeri/Revell Tractor Freightliner FLC120 1984ish Cummins NTC Italeri/Revell/Testors/AMT Tractor/Dump Freightliner FLD120 1988-93 Cummins NTC Italeri/Revell Tractor GMC Astro 95 1976 Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Tractor GMC General 1977-78 Detroit Diesel 8V-92N AMT Tractor International CO-4070A Transtar 1969-74 Detroit Diesel 8V-71 Ertl Tractor International CO-4070B Transtar II 1974-78 Detroit Diesel 8V-71 Ertl Tractor International F04270 1973-77 Cummins V903 Ertl Tractor International 4300 Transtar 1977-78 International V800 Ertl/AMT Tractor International Paystar 5000 1972-? International V800 Ertl/AMT Tractor/Dump/Mix/Log International S-Series F2575 1977-78 International V800 Ertl Tractor International S-Series F2674 1977-78 International V800 Ertl Tractor/Dumper International Payhauler 350 ? Detroit Diesel 16V-71 Ertl/AMT Dumper International LoneStar 2010 International MaxxForce15 Moebius/Revell Tractor International ProStar 2011 International MaxxForce15 Moebius/Revell Tractor Kenworth K100 VIT/Aerodyne 110" 1980-81 Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo Revell Tractor/Heavy Haul/Orient Kenworth K100 Aerodyne 110" 1978-? Detroit Diesel 8V-92T AMT/Ertl-Esci Tractor/Malone Transporter Kenworth K123/K125 1970-71 Cummins NTA370 AMT Tractor Kenworth T900 74" hood 1972-82 Caterpillar 3408 Revell Tractor T900 Australia Kenworth W900 74" hood 1972-82 Caterpillar 3408 Revell Tractor/Dump/Wrecker Kenworth W900 1972-82 Caterpillar 3408 Revell/Monogram Tractor (1/16) Kenworth W900 Aerodyne 63"hood 1976-82 Caterpillar 3406A Revell/Monogram Tractor (1/25 Snap) Kenworth W900 Aerodyne 1976-82 Caterpillar 3408 Revell/Monogram Tractor (1/16) Kenworth W925/W923 63" hood 1965-72 Cummins NTA370 AMT Tractor/Alaskan/Mixer Kenworth T600A 1986-89 (curbside no engine) Revell/Monogram Tractor (1/32 Snap) Kenworth T600A 1986-89 Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo Revell Tractor Kenworth T600A/Canepa 1990-94 Cummins NTA370 AMT Tractor Mack Cruiseliner(WS686S) 1975-76 Mack ENDT 676 Tip Turbine AMT Tractor Mack DM607SX 1970-73 Mack ENDT 673 MPC/ERTL/AMT Tractor Mack DM895ST ? Mack ENDT 865 MPC/ERTL/AMT Tractor/Mixer Mack R685ST/R-Series 1975-79 Mack ENDT 675 AMT Tractor Mack Superliner 1989 Cummins NTC Italeri/Revell Tractor Marmon Conventional ? Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo Revell Tractor (Not correct) Peterbilt 352 Pacemaker 1970 Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Tractor Peterbilt 352-110 1976-80 (curbside no engine) Revell/Monogram Tractor (1/32) Snap Peterbilt 353-119 ? Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo Revell Tractor/Alaska/Canada Peterbilt 359-119 1980-87 Caterpillar 3406A Revell/Monogram Tractor (1/25 Snap) Peterbilt 359-119 1980-87 Caterpillar 3408 Revell/Monogram Tractor (1/16) Peterbilt 359-119 Unilite Cab 1967-72 Detroit Diesel 8V-71 AMT Tractor/Wrecker Peterbilt 359-119 1100 Series 1975-77 Cummins NTC350 AMT/Ertl-Esci Tractor/Wrecker Peterbilt 359-119 1978-80 Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo Revell Tractor/Wrecker Peterbilt 359 (289) 1978-80 Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo Revell Fire Truck SD Peterbilt 359-119 1978-80 Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo Revell Tractor Bill Signs Peterbilt 377 A/E 1986-2000 Detroit Diesel Series 60 Italeri/Revell Tractor Peterbilt 378 1994-98 Detroit Diesel Series 60 Italeri/Revell/AMT Tractor Volvo VN 670/780 2004-2018 (Curbside no engine) Italeri/Revell Tractor White Road Boss 1973 Cummins NTC350 AMT Tractor White-Freightliner WFT 6342T 1971-73 Cummins NHC250 AMT Tractor SD White-Freightliner WFT 8564T 1971-73 Cummins NHC250 AMT Tractor DD White Western Star 4800 1973 Cummins NTC350 AMT Tractor Western Star Constellation 1988-96 Cummins NTC Italeri Tractor Western Star 4964 1995 Cummins NTC Italeri/Revell Tractor/Australia/Wrecker Italeri did only two different chassis and engines for their US truck kit line, one chassis and a Detroit Diesel Series 60 engine for the Peterbilt kits, and one chassis wich is from the Freightliner FLC kit with the older FAS Airliner (Western Unit Stabilaire) suspension and Cummins NTC 400 or similar engine for the rest of the US truck kits. The Cummins NTC engines in some of the US kits are slightly modified to more resemble a N14 with air to air intercooler but are not correct by far and not usable as a N14 without more modifications in the head/valve cover area to look right. The Freightliner FLD 120 has updated rear suspension to the newer FAS II Airliner suspension but the older FAS Airliner suspension parts from the FLC are still in there. Revell Germany also has only two engines for their entire US truck kit line except for the reboxed Italeri kits, Cummins NTC475 Twin Turbo and Caterpillar 3408, and the Revell US has only the Caterpillar 3406 in 1:25 scale and 3408 for the 1:16 scale

Well as it was 8-9 years between the Tudor Sedan and the 5 Window Coupe I thought they were more different than they are and not based on the same basic tooling, but appearently that's the case. I have never had the 33 or 34 Tudor Sedan so I don't know how it is, but I have a couple of the 34 5 Window Coupe and they are nice kits.