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In recognition of the multitude of reissued versions of the 1974 Road Runner , from its MPC origins ( original Annual from 1973 to its 80's modified reissue as the 1974 GTX and subsequent lack of factory-stock parts) to its ill-fated RC2 issue (complete with 1975-1978 chassis and dashboard !) , to its present Daisy Duke's upgrade (restoration of its correct '71-'74 chassis and dashboard !) and the pending $50,000 version , this kit's come a long way ! What to do next ...?? I know ! How about backdating it to its 1971 origins ! Not only that , but how about including the parts from the 1972 annual ! That way , one could build either a '71 or a '72 (and yes , I'm aware of the cosmetic changes for '72 : new centrecaps for the Rallye Wheels , and the "universal" side marker lamp lenses , in addition to new rear bumper / taillamps and grille ). Instructions could be included on how to fill-in the 71's side markers and add the 72's lenses ; the rest is already included . Now , didn't the original 1972 annual include the necessary customising parts to build the 1971 Rapid Transit Show Car version ? At least its box art alludes to that possibility . Thoughts ?

Gorgeous Galaxies ! Period colour combos and all ! My favourite item amongest them all ? The correct-for-1970 California license plates (first image) ! Kudos for doing that .

Exactly . And this is something I just learned about a year ago ! I wasn't aware that only the Twister package that came with the hood scoops ; I'd long believed that the '70-'72 Duster 340 had them as an option . It appears that only the '70 Swinger 340 and the 1971 Demon 340 (i.e. , only the Dodge models) had the scoops !

All 1970-1971 340 engines were Chrysler Engine Orange , period . Here's a link to the definitive Chrysler information : http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/library.shtml

That's right ! Ha ha ha ha ! "Negative-Offset" wheels (gross) , radiused wheel openings , fender flares , hood scoops , and GMC huffers sticking through an opening in the hood , were common sights . Some states had vehicle motor codes / rules / regulations which made certain modifications illegal for on-road vehicles ; however , like anything , this did little to prevent these "Street Freaks" from prowling the boulevard .I grew up right along the crusing corridor known as Whittier Boulevard . I'd see all kinds of vehicles , from stone stock V.W.'s to '66 Chevelles with 8-71 Jimmy's and Doug's side pipes , to Lowriders and Kustoms , and hybrids thereof (something about seeing a '67 Camaro with a traditional Lowrider paint scheme , but with a Pro Stock type hood scoop and Ansen Sprints , that really attracted my attention ). Not that I can recall . BBS wheels were more of an 80's thing , and even then were *typically* limited to European cars . However , there were a few F-100's ('53-'56 models) and '55-'59 Chevy / GMC trucks with big-for-the-time 15" - 16" BBS wheels . I thought that those looked nice ! Nothing preventing you from adding these wheels to your Charger . I say , Go for it ! Do a google search for "70's Street Freaks"

Let me preface by stating that I'm 42 years old (at least chronologically ) , so I'm guessing that you and I are around the same age . I've long been a fan of "old" music / bands / styles , even in my youth . Certainly , the 80's "Wave" scenes offered-up quite a bit of cool sounds ; sounds that were largely influenced by (predominately) Garage / Underground / Avant Garde bands . Groups such as Velvet Underground , MC5 , Stooges , Arthur Lee & Love , The Fugs , etc. , etc. I was also a fan of , shall we say , a lifestyle wrought with uppers , downers , laughers and distillations ; I ansconsed myself with these libations . I stopped drinking in March 2002 , and haven't looked back (though I do miss a properly-served Ale or Stout from time-to-time...). When I even *mention* my alcohol consumption in an anecdotal capacity , I become slightly , briefly ill . When I recall my liberal intake of , say , Adderall , Vicodin and Xanax , It's amazing that I'm still alive ( ha ha ha ) . If I stay awake past 02:00 HRS , I feel like I got hit by a bus the following day ! I used to stay up 'till 04:00 on weekends , and often until sunrise . "It's hard to leave when you can't find the door" . By the way , have you had the chance to peruse "Please Kill Me" or "Velvets to Voidoids" yet ?

"Carefull" , indeed !

I'll take a stab at your questionairre 1. What is a model kit? A scale representation of a motorised vehicle , typically made of moulded polystyrene plastic . 2. What activities (e.g. painting, sanding, burnishing) do you associate with modelling? My approach is rather minimalist ; clean-up and detail painting . 3. Do you follow instructions when building a model? Only if it's a new-to-me kit . But , even then ... 4. How skilled are you at modelling? I'd say "better-than-average" , but by no means am I a master of the hobby 5. What are kit conversions? Have you ever done a kit conversion? "Kit Conversions" typically entail a model year change , a trim level change , and engine swap , etc. , etc. I've not attempted this in any true capacity . 6. What is kitbashing? Have you ever kitbashed? "Kitbashing" is the combination of two or more kits , in order to add a more-detailled chassis , interior , engine , etc. , etc. I've done mild bashing on a number of occasions . 7. What is the object of model-making? What is the end product? For me , it started as a hobby when I was 5 (in 1975) . The "end product" is --again , personally-- an exercise in living vicariously through plastic . It's also one of the few things I can accomplish on a truly limited income . Best of luck to you in your ventures Alternate spelling , mon frier

NICE ! Cool reference to an obscure Dodge dealership : Rockville Centre Dodge ! They were the Mr, Norms of N.Y.C.

Thanks for clarifying the Charcoal Cannister deal . I'd forgotten that in 1971 , the fuel bowl was vented-directly to the fuel tank ; can't remember wheter or not the 1970 models were the same ( I'd like to see a 1970 "N95" 440+6 or Hemi ... they'd also have turndown exhaust tips instead of the "N42" Bright Exhaust Tips ).

There are quite a few high dollar cars around which are sans their original engines ; sames goes for their transmissions . A "clone" , while not completely out of the realm of possibility , isn't likely . So few are / were aware of the elusive 1972 "E87" cars, that cloning would be highly-unlikely . The dash-mounted v.i.n. would have a "V" for the engine code ( V= 440+6 , 1970-1972 ) , whereas a clone could have an engine code of "C" (225 Slant Six) , "G" (318 V8) "H" (340 V8) "M" (400 two barrel) "P" (400 high-perf) or a "U" (440 high-perf). I believe that these 1972's were Executive Sales orders . Thier options lists are extensive ; this one being a prime example ! It has every conceivable option ! I do admit that I can understand your cynicism

The lack of its original engine is a downer ; however , it's so rare --an alleged 1-of-1 -- that its value wouldn't be negligible . Truly , a blank-v.i.n.-pad warranty block with a late 1971 casting date would be ideal ; beyond that , a simple date-coded 1971 440 HP block with "452" heads would suffice. I've been wanting to build a 1972 R.R. 440+6 for absolutely years , both in-scale (affordable) as well as a 1:1 "tribute" . Too bad that the MPC 1972 R.R. Annual is so freakin' much money (same goes for the easily-converted 1971 reissue from 1987) . However , using the Revell-Monogram '71 Satellite or GTX as the starting point would be a better decision . Of course , no one makes a conversion for that scale ; the Modelhaus repro stuff is for the aforementioned MPC kit (25th scale) .

I would die if I saw one of these '72 Six Pack / 6Bbl cars in person ! I , too , would apologise for having a new(er) Corvette ! If it was a '55-'57 or a '68-'73 or an '84-'90 , that'd be perfectly fine

In my 20+ years' quest for a legitimate 1972 Road Runner 440-6 for reference and vicarious behaviour , I've finally hit pay dirt : http://carsinbarns.b...6-plymouth.html ( pay no attention to the blogger's assertion that the gas crisis was around in 1972 . That delicious mark in history didn't happen until 21.10.1973 !) For my fellow MoParites , you're already hip to these elusive , one-off cars ; for those whom aren't overtly familiar with these "white whale" 1972 440 Six Pack / Six Barrel cars , here's a little history : Every-one is familiar with the 1969 1/2 -through- 1971 440 Maximum Performance engine with its Holley 2300-Series carburetteurs , 10.25:1 compression (versus 10:1 with the "standard" Hi-Perf 440) , special cam , and other host of refinements . The 1972 brochures listed the 440-6 as being available for the 1972 model year , in the Charger Rallye (the R/T's replacement) and the Road Runner (presumably , in "GTX" guise). It was cancelled within the first week or so of production . http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/images/dealerships/DealershipDataBook/1972/72_Satellite_17.jpg What made the 1972 version so special was that it was completely unchanged from its 1970-1971 form ; it still had 10.25:1 compression , which was exclusive to this engine this year (the 340 and 440 HP comp-ratios dropped into the mid-8's ; the 383 was replaced with a 400 , which had a rip-snortin' 8.2:1 compression). Also , 1972 was the year that engines started being advertised only in S.A.E. "net" . Even with this emasculating --albeit accurate-- manner of rating h.p. , the 440-6 was advertised at 330 hp ( 390 hp from '69-'71). Big time in 1972 !! 1972 was also the year that a new Evaporative Emissions Reduction system was introduced : - New gas tank - Charcoal Cannister - Overfill limiter - A.I.R. Pump (only on Slant Six and 400 / 440 , only in California) - Revised PCV - "Floor Jet" EGR And as far as I can ascertain , the 440-6 cars were lacking in all of these items ! I doubt that the Holley 2300's had provisions for a "Fuel Bowl" port for the Charcoal Cannister ; and , ostensibly , no room was provided for the installation of an A.I.R. Pump . So , now you know why there's such a huge stink about these virtual anomalies ! For the record , there are 2 1972 Chargers equipped with the 440-6 (at least those that are accounted for...). *Moderators : If you feel that this thread is in the wrong forum , please feel free to move it to its proper place

... as well as the M/SP ( Modified / Sports Production ) 'vette in the pic shared by Greg Myer ...

Ha ha ha ! I never said that the Mod Top / Floral Pattern looked bad ! Perhaps my choice of words implied that I believed it to be odd ; but I truly LOVE these tops ! I was the one whom suggested that Revell add a Mod Top decal to the sheet of this kit

Not to say that it's not possible , but I've never seen nor heard of Dodge continuing their "Floral Pattern" for 1970 . Who knows ? Anything's possible ! First time I can remember seeing a Mod Top was in ca.1972 or so (when I was 2 years old) . The car was a 1970 Barracuda . I'd see it frequently at the local mall , in the parking lot by Hinshaw's . I'd asked my mother , "Why did someone put wallpaper on their car ?". I'd not seen the Dodge "Floral Top" until sometime in the 90's ... ... at a self-serve salvage yard , on a '69 Dart . I saw remnents of it wedged in the driptrough moulding and thought , "What the heck is this ?!?". I've long preferred the Dodge pattern , as it looks more like a Peter Max illustration .

Has any-one used Tamiya paint in a Prevail system ; and if so , is the thinner-to-paint ratio the same as described above by Jaydar ?

RealGone58 : Now that is a '75 / '76 Dart Sport !!! Absolutely spot-on look ; very well-crafted !! Although these years look very similar to the 1976-1980 Aspen / Volare , these are actually a completely different car line ; these are "A"-bodies (1960-1976 , Valiant , Dart , et al.) , whereas the Aspen /Volare are "F"-bodies . To add insult to injury : the 1976 Duster and Dart Sport were available with a 220 hp 5.9 litre (360 c.i.d.) , whereas the 1976-1977 Aspen/Volare had a 175 hp 5.9 litre (same 360 c.i.d.) with a two barrel carb . Also , the Dart , et al. , was sans catalytic converters (!!) .

I , too , am very disappointed with the absence of "up-top" options for the convertibles , that Revell-Monogram makes . I can't think of a single good excuse for this oversight ! Aside from that not-exclusive-to-this-kit observation , I am impressed with what I'm seeing here ! For years I couldn't stand the '58-'62 Corvettes ( it was the quad headlights more than anything ) , but after seeing some vintage photos of modified 'vettes in 1/4 mile regalia , I changed my feelings regarding the '58-'62 ! A vintage MSC ( Modified Sports Car ; a variation of Modified Production ) or Gasser would be a great basis for this kit

YES ! Not only the Plymouth pattern , but also the Dodge "Floral Pattern" pattern as well ! I also believe that the plaid "cloth" upholstery and houndstooth upholstery seat insets would be good sellers as well

I would imagine that multiple coats would work best versus heavy coats . I've never airbrushed with Tamiya paint , so my answer may not be *correct* . Good luck

You're looking for a factory-stock grille for the circa 1979 through 1985 Econoline ; or is it the custom grille from , say , the "Phantom" that you're looking for ?

Steve ! Long time ! Super nice Super Blue '72 Demon ! Whose paint did you use for this ; custom mix ? **Did you ever got the messages I sent to you ? Check your inbox and hit me back **

Another delightful build , Mopar_guy1 ! Lime-Lite / Sub-Lime is a really neat-o colour ; and it looks its best with the right combo of accent colours (a combo of white interior with hood blackout is the best ) . Good call on that Twister hood treatment ! Keep those beautiful builds coming , my brother