AC Norton Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 3:27 PM, gtx6970 said: How about the MPC 1971 Roadrunner kit ? ,,,or maybe the 1972 GMC / Chevrolet pickups been some time since they were last released. I'd buy a few of each Bill, I like the idea of the 71 RR coming out again too, but only if it truly was as the annual was.... identical decals, those very nice Cragars, plastic slicks, and all drag items. however, the best idea for Round2 would be to dig out the items to release it as the 72 RR annual....now that would be a seller in its original style box, and all the pieces restored. either one though, would be a winner if done properly.....my 2 cents,,,the Ace...
Xingu Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 I just wish Round2 would let us know what tools they have.
Jon Cole Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 11:25 PM, Xingu said: I just wish Round2 would let us know what tools they have.I don't think most companies want to reveal what they are capable of producing- model, or otherwise. Why tip your hand to potential competitors? Our hobby is no different.
gtx6970 Posted May 28, 2016 Posted May 28, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 10:59 PM, AC Norton said: Bill, I like the idea of the 71 RR coming out again too, but only if it truly was as the annual was.... identical decals, those very nice Cragars, plastic slicks, and all drag items. however, the best idea for Round2 would be to dig out the items to release it as the 72 RR annual....now that would be a seller in its original style box, and all the pieces restored. either one though, would be a winner if done properly.....my 2 cents,,,the Ace... i dont know if theres any truth to it....but i was told the reason the 71 road runner kit has remained mia is due to licensing issues
AC Norton Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 11:51 PM, gtx6970 said: i dont know if theres any truth to it....but i was told the reason the 71 road runner kit has remained mia is due to licensing issues don't know....but it sounds dicey to me.....they have the Mopar kits licenced thru Chrysler, and as for Warner Bros. for RR, they already produced the 74 RR with the tin and all, so I wonder...........guess we wait and see....the Ace...
Aaronw Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I'd love to see them spruce up the 1972 GMC Stepside / Chevy trucks and re-issue them.If they tooled up a better detailed chassis plate to replace the promo style of the original that would go a long way. The kit has a few issues but the promo style chassis and wire axles seem to cause the most complaint. If they tooled up a new chassis for it, then optional 4x4 parts would be possible as well. Maybe offer the short bed as a 4wd and the longbed in 2wd. The 67-72 trucks are very popular in the 1-1 market, one of the best looking pickups out there in my opinion.
Tom Geiger Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/26/2016 at 6:28 PM, iamsuperdan said: Time to stir it up. Although I like some of these kits, I think all of the above are one of the main reasons kids aren't interested in the hobby. Kids just don't care about hot rods from the 40s or muscle cars from the 50s or 60s. There's a place for those kits for sure, but to attract new blood to the hobby, how about some modern vehicles that aren't Mustang, Corvette, or Challenger? More new model trucks. Imports from Japan/Korea. Euro imports. Enough with the retro releases, let's see something new! Can open...worms everywhere. I'll play! I agree that we need some modern subjects. Revell has just added a few snap kits of modern subjects that may interest kids. I agree that we need more modern cars, after all when we were building Dusters and Roadrunners they were new cars then! At NNL East we added a "Modern Sport" tuner class a few years ago at the request of a group of younger modelers. We've had no problem filling up the tables. Same group has recruited a lot of younger builders we'd never seen before in the organized hobby. It's a good thing. Remember that Round Two is still working on the big hoard of historic molds that they purchased. They need to work that investment, so I understand that we are not getting new kits from them.
moparfarmer Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Didn't the original 40 Ford have a dark blue car on the box with scallops on the fenders? Seem to remember that box from the early sixties when it was first released..Also had a picture in the box of a stock 40 Ford...Think the car in the picture was dark maroon...
1972coronet Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 3:27 PM, gtx6970 said: How about the MPC 1971 Roadrunner kit ? ,,,or maybe the 1972 GMC / Chevrolet pickupsbeen some time since they were last released. I'd buy a few of eachThat MPC 1971 Road Runner kit would be awesome !! What woulkd make it even better would be to include the 1972 parts , also ; front grille / bumper , rear bumper / tail lamps , hood , and the custom parts . That coupled with instructions on how to fill-in the 71's side markers and add the '72 markers . Either return the kit's custom wheels back to the Cragar S/S , or replace them with the Motor Wheels Spyders from any of the other old MPC kits.It never ceases to amaze me just how much those 1972 GMC Stepside kits go for ! But , then again , they haven't been around in almost 20 years ( !! ) . I would love to have a few copies of that kit !
Bennyg Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 I messaged them on Facebook suggesting looking at reissuing the 1/32 scale big rigs. Some thing new for big rig fans would be good. At least the 2017 Camaro is coming.Ben
ChrisBcritter Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/28/2016 at 11:25 PM, Xingu said: I just wish Round2 would let us know what tools they have.They've let bits of info out in the past on their site's "What's a hanger shot?" message thread:http://www.collectormodel.com/round2-models/2224-whats-a-hanger-shot/#comment-13806The '64 F-85 Cutlass only exists as a convertible funny car body-wise but much of the original kit also survives. The molds, however, were tagged as rusted. Early '60s Ford pickups - gone.'62 Galaxie - gone.'59 Buick - gone.'61 Galaxie convertible - gone.'60 T-bird - gone.'68 Impala - gone.'63 Nova wagon - body/glass/grille/bumpers/taillights/stock wheelcover (one!) exist in the Boss Nova, with modifications; but unlike the Cutlass, the inserts for the chassis/interior/stock engine are gone.'71-'75 Impalas - inserts are gone.
CometMan Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 Seems strange that Chrysler is usually behind releases being cancelled due to licensing issues when they are the auto maker that could benefit the most from having their products, past and present, being recognized by new people!! Makes no sense to me!
pack rat Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 (edited) On 5/29/2016 at 6:20 AM, CometMan said: Seems strange that Chrysler is usually behind releases being cancelled due to licensing issues when they are the auto maker that could benefit the most from having their products, past and present, being recognized by new people!! Makes no sense to me!Before you get too upset with FCA/Chrysler re licensing issues....the '71 Demon episode had nothing to do with licensing (nor is the lack of a '71 Road Runner reissue). Just another case of someone who heard a rumor/speculation from someone who heard it from someone else....then it winds up on the internet, where everything is irrefutably true. Edited May 29, 2016 by pack rat added content
unclescott58 Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 12:41 AM, Aaronw said: I'd love to see them spruce up the 1972 GMC Stepside / Chevy trucks and re-issue them.If they tooled up a better detailed chassis plate to replace the promo style of the original that would go a long way. The kit has a few issues but the promo style chassis and wire axles seem to cause the most complaint. If they tooled up a new chassis for it, then optional 4x4 parts would be possible as well. Maybe offer the short bed as a 4wd and the longbed in 2wd. The 67-72 trucks are very popular in the 1-1 market, one of the best looking pickups out there in my opinion. I'd love to see any of '72 Chevy or GMC truck kits back on the market. And I personally have no problem with the promo style chassis of these kits. Shining side up. Greasy side down. I rarely care that about what the chassis looks like after I'm done building. So, the simple chassis are okay with me, as long as the rest of the model looks good sitting on the shelf when it's done.
gtx6970 Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 12:50 PM, unclescott58 said: I'd love to see any of '72 Chevy or GMC truck kits back on the market. And I personally have no problem with the promo style chassis of these kits. Shining side up. Greasy side down. I rarely care that about what the chassis looks like after I'm done building. So, the simple chassis are okay with me, as long as the rest of the model looks good sitting on the shelf when it's done.Ditto
Tom Geiger Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 12:50 PM, unclescott58 said: I'd love to see any of '72 Chevy or GMC truck kits back on the market. And I personally have no problem with the promo style chassis of these kits. Scott, our herd understands the history of model making and the progress made in kit quality over the last 50 years. Most of us can tell you the history of each kit and what is in the box. Many people who buy kits do not and when older and somewhat simple kits are reissued the general public, the people who are responsible for the majority of kit sales in hobby shops, Hobby Lobby, Michaels etc, complains like crazy because when they see a new kit on the shelf, they assume its a new product and have no idea of the history.For instance there was a guy a while back on a board complaining that he had a good experience building the AMT '57 Chrysler 300 so he went back to the hobby shop and got the AMT 1962 Buick... he was totally disappointed and accused the manufacturer of ripping him off!More recently upon announcement of a Model King version of the Moebius Ford pickup, a guy on the udder board warned people NOT to buy any Model King kits! He said he had purchased their 1959 Chrysler and anything from that company was total junk!
Daddyfink Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 How about a new tool for once, just something new from them. I appreciate the re-issues and some great ones have come back, but, it would be nice to get something new.
pack rat Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 4:15 PM, Tom Geiger said: Scott, our herd understands the history of model making and the progress made in kit quality over the last 50 years. Most of us can tell you the history of each kit and what is in the box. Many people who buy kits do not and when older and somewhat simple kits are reissued the general public, the people who are responsible for the majority of kit sales in hobby shops, Hobby Lobby, Michaels etc, complains like crazy because when they see a new kit on the shelf, they assume its a new product and have no idea of the history.For instance there was a guy a while back on a board complaining that he had a good experience building the AMT '57 Chrysler 300 so he went back to the hobby shop and got the AMT 1962 Buick... he was totally disappointed and accused the manufacturer of ripping him off!More recently upon announcement of a Model King version of the Moebius Ford pickup, a guy on the udder board warned people NOT to buy any Model King kits! He said he had purchased their 1959 Chrysler and anything from that company was total junk! Absolutely correct.One thing "our herd" doesn't realize is the fact that we are a relatively small portion of the market. There are a bunch of model buyers out there who don't know the history of the kits, don't subscribe to modeling mags, don't know these message boards exist etc etc. Yes...hard to believe, but it's true. If they buy a kit and are disappointed, they may complain to the Michaels/Hobby Lobby folks....the same folks the manufacturers hope will be receptive when they're deciding which kits they want to bring to market....this includes any $$$ that has to be spent to make an old tool production-ready. And I'm 99% certain the '72 GMC Stepside tool isn't just sitting in a corner somewhere in pristine condition.
Rob Hall Posted May 29, 2016 Posted May 29, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 4:22 PM, Daddyfink said: How about a new tool for once, just something new from them. I appreciate the re-issues and some great ones have come back, but, it would be nice to get something new. They do have a new full detail tool ('16 Camaro SS) coming this summer, that is at least a start...
Edsel-Dan Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 I too would love to see the 67-72 Chevy/GMC pickups backConsidering to prices for the 4 box art versions of the recent re-issueEven the 'Rides' version go HIGH!! $50.oo+++++But, I believe we Lost the 72 GMC Shortbed Stepsidewe the Longbox Fleetside was brought back.Wasn't it posted here that the AMT Shortbox Stepside was Re-tooled into the Chevywhen they found the Fleetside box inserts but Not the Chevy Cab tooling??Also, with the Heavy Pedal, and Rolling Thunder Custom issues, theStock grill was altered MAYBE we can get the GMC Jimmy version of the Blazer re-issued, but I don't expect the Pickup againAre the Hood & tail gate inserts still around??Hopefully they can Fix the 72 Chevy Grill as the one they tooled up is not tall enoughAlso the 71 & 72 had separate Grill & front Bumper!!!It is posible to separate them on 69 & 70issues, but, Not the recent 72 Luckily, I have a few of this era Chevy.GMC Pickup.4 of the GMC Shortbox Stepside4-5 of the 72 Longbox Stepside, AND 2 of the Heavy Pedal!!besides 10+ of the Fleetsides
Snake45 Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 If I'd had any idea those '72 Stepside kits would ever be rare/desirable, I wouldn't have Snake-slapped this one together back in the '90s.
Eshaver Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 On 5/30/2016 at 11:54 AM, Snake45 said: If I'd had any idea those '72 Stepside kits would ever be rare/desirable, I wouldn't have Snake-slapped this one together back in the '90s. I cut mine up to recreate a wrecker I used to drive for AAA Virginia . I had as much fun doing the model as helping build the real one
Rob Hall Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 On 5/30/2016 at 11:06 AM, Edsel-Dan said: Also, with the Heavy Pedal, and Rolling Thunder Custom issues, theStock grill was alteredThose were the MPC '72s, though.
oldcarfan Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 In response to the idea of companies producing kits of current era cars and trucks, I understand that this is probably a risk for them. So how about this? There are producers in Japan and Korea and China making kits of modern day Japanese and German cars. They are rare here and when found they are expensive. Couldn't one of the American companies make a deal to act as importer, re-box them if necessary and bring them to us at a more reasonable price? Maybe tool up for left hand drive and other US specific parts if necessary. They would get more product and the producing company would get wider American market distribution. I seem to remember that Testors and maybe Revell or AMT(?) did this at times in the past with some Fujimi and Aoshima kits. That would give them some modern day kits to sell at a relatively low initial investment. Most of our companies are already producing and importing their current kits from China anyway. This would probably be more complicated than I think, but it's an idea.
Daddyfink Posted May 30, 2016 Posted May 30, 2016 On 5/29/2016 at 11:28 PM, Rob Hall said: They do have a new full detail tool ('16 Camaro SS) coming this summer, that is at least a start...Just add some pace car decals and i'll take it!
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