Think the production Edsel was bad????

[Lovefordgalaxie]

Love the Edsel. Nothing wrong with the car. I always think of women when I see one. 

[SfanGoch]

 

[Casey]

9 hours ago, Bucky said:

EDSEL concept:

'63 TEMPEST:

 

FTFY.

[Richard Bartrop]

2 hours ago, Ace-Garageguy said:

All pretty horrible, but surely no worse than the Nissan Juke or the Pontiac Aztek.

Both of which should be warnings to anyone who equates "distinctive" with "good"

But 1958 was not a great year for American styling.  Harley Earl was retiring soon, and had clearly lost his touch,  Ford's update of the '57 was not an improvement.   Chrysler's '58 models looked good, mostly because they looked just like the '57s.

[Casey]

13 hours ago, Maindrian Pace said:

The back of the Edsel Falcon was pretty neat:

Agreed. Great sculpting going on back there, especially how the spear/bulge meshes with the wrap-under style bumper.. What do those letters across the tail panel spell out?

[Maindrian Pace]

6 minutes ago, Casey said:

Agreed. Great sculpting going on back there, especially how the spear/bulge meshes with the wrap-under style bumper.. What do those letters across the tail panel spell out?

I would like to know that too.

[Bucky]

Another EDSEL concept:

'61 TEMPEST:

[Ace-Garageguy]

1 hour ago, Casey said:

...What do those letters across the tail panel spell out?

 

1 hour ago, Maindrian Pace said:

I would like to know that too.

Let's see...eight letters.  H O R R I B L E   maybe?

[Joe Handley]

Looks like somebody left Ford for GM, or left Pontiac for Edsel, the went back to Pontiac after it was found to be a flaming mess of a division..........

[Bucky]

Looks like some of it came from '59:

[Casey]

42 minutes ago, Joe Handley said:

Looks like somebody left Ford for GM, or left Pontiac for Edsel, the went back to Pontiac after it was found to be a flaming mess of a division..........

That was fairly common, so there was bound to be some design overlap among the Big Three (and AMC, Packard/Studebaker, etc.) back then.

I love the '63 Tempest design, so Edsel was on the right (wide) track. 

[Maindrian Pace]

The builder of this Falcon with a bit of '59 Pontiac mixed in must have been influenced by these concept pictures.

[Casey]

More good Edsel stuff here: http://internetdebris.blogspot.com/2012/03/case-of-murderous-vice-president.html

 

Shades of '62 Dodge Dart (!!) in the below drawing:

[Sledsel]

How about these?

 

[Bucky]

I kinda like this taillight treatment.

[Ace-Garageguy]

4 minutes ago, Bucky said:

I kinda like this taillight treatment.

Me too. And though there's rather a lot of sculptural detail going on here, what the mags like Car & Driver used to refer to as "tortured sheetmetal", the design elements work together and are more all-of-a-piece than many others we've seen.

[Joe Handley]

33 minutes ago, Bucky said:

I kinda like this taillight treatment.

You know what those taillights remind me of?

[Sledsel]

Some of the rear end treatments I see other cars.... what you think?

[thatz4u]

11 hours ago, Bucky said:

I kinda like this taillight treatment.

quarter panel looks like a 64 Fairlane

[misterNNL]

Some designs of production automobiles make me wonder if this was the best design they had,what the heck designs did they reject?

[Bucky]

Similar to a '59 Impala:

[Richard Bartrop]

Meanwhile, at GM, the folks working on the '59 Chevrolet were thinking along similar lines...

[89AKurt]

On 9/26/2018 at 2:55 PM, Casey said:

More good Edsel stuff here: http://internetdebris.blogspot.com/2012/03/case-of-murderous-vice-president.html

 

Shades of '62 Dodge Dart (!!) in the below drawing:

Top image, the skinny tires with lines like the tires that gang-bangers used to mark their territories, which got them banned, cracks me up.

Lower image, the C-pillars remind me what Infiniti is doing now:
https://www.infinitiusa.com/vehicles/crossovers/qx30.html

[Joe Handley]

7 hours ago, 89AKurt said:

Top image, the skinny tires with lines like the tires that gang-bangers used to mark their territories, which got them banned, cracks me up.

Lower image, the C-pillars remind me what Infiniti is doing now:
https://www.infinitiusa.com/vehicles/crossovers/qx30.html

BFG never really got them going, all that was theorized by "Won't somebody please think of the children?!" Busybodies.

http://www.tirebusiness.com/article/19991011/ISSUE/310119994?template=printart&X-IgnoreUserAgent=1

[espo]

Poor Edsel, the car and the man. Neither ever got the respect they deserved. I enjoy looking at all of the old styling prototypes that others have shared. While it is remarkable that so many cars from different manufactures have such a great resemblance to one another I think that one reason may have to do with the design staffs. In the past and even in the present we hear about the heads of design moving from one company to another, and I'm sure that has an influence on design, but the designers that are basic staff or say midrange designers move around also and that is never mentioned. Say a designer working with company A is laid off or leaves for a better paying position at company B, would it not be normal for this person to bring some of the styling features with them ?