Cool Hand Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 Not one to post this type of wip on here, as its not up to standard. But thought some might enjoy the process of the build. And maybe the end result. So we will get it straight from the start, I dont know jack about drift cars this is just me dreaming and building something for a community build on another site. I dont care about scale accuracy, this is me building what I want from my imagination and creativity. Il source ideas from all over the interweb and put my own spin on it and put it into the builds. The inspiration The kit. Wheels. And going to need a way to get it to the track. Ok, lets see how this goes. As always start of with a box stock mock, to see where things are at. Stock roller, looks like a 4x4. Needs to be lowered alot. Super charger is just for jokes. Stock chassis, aint going to cut it so it will be replace with a scratch built. So the fun begins. 1
Cool Hand Posted December 26, 2019 Author Posted December 26, 2019 Have been down this road before and have a technique I like to use. Its old school but works. All starts with a layout drawing. Then laminate. Found a good flat surface for a work board and stick it down with spray adhesive. Tape the boarder to stop things catching the edge. Also print out a couple duplicates. To cut up and use for templates. Select materials and cut up using a mitre box and saw. I used 4mm x 2mm rectangle solid 2.5mm square solid 2mm square solid 2mm plate styrene Cut out front and back chassis sections to use for templates. And cut 2 pieces of 2mm plate same size as cut outs from paper. Spot tack the plates together and stick the paper cut out on top. 1
Cool Hand Posted December 26, 2019 Author Posted December 26, 2019 Cut out the shape press down hard so the blade scribes the plastic. Peel the paper of, and shade some pencil into the scribed line. Can be tricky to cut this section, so start of drilling some holes to create an opening for next procedure. Cut the hole bigger. Various things used to cut and shape Also used the poor mans milling machine. Carefully slide the vice around to remove material. Once fully cut out, finish shaping with a file and sanding sticks. Then separate and do a final sand. Much better to do these sections one piece as it stronger with no joins. Get all pieces cut and cleaned up and start to tape them down on the layout. Tape every piece down to lock it in place. Using super glue spot tack all the joints, used plastic cement on the upper pieces that were not taped this allows time to get positioning correct.Then lock in place with super glue Once glue has set up, remove from layout. Some glue will seep down through joins bonding the chassis to the laminate. Carefully pry up with chisel blade. Thats the basics done, but lots more to do. 2
Cool Hand Posted December 26, 2019 Author Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) Need to remove the engine bay so the body will fit over the chassis. Also shave the door handle and remove pillar, prefer the hard top look. Set the frame on some taped down 6mm x 4mm rectanlge tube, this sets the ride height. Placed the body over the chassis. Wheel mock. The kit has two engines, but only has all the parts for the 302. ] Prefer the big block , so Il use a resin TPB engine it is exact the same block Thats where im currently at, more progress soon. Edited December 26, 2019 by Cool Hand 1
Sandboarder Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 Really good progress so far! You can’t go wrong with a sideways racing car ?
espo Posted December 26, 2019 Posted December 26, 2019 For someone who professes to not knowing what they're doing this looks pretty advanced to me. I'm usually more of the "wing it" type builder. I'll enjoy seeing what all you do with this.
Lowlife ! ! Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 Hi Luke ! Must admit this is one of the best chassis building tutorials I've seen . Some great advice and tips here ! Remember seeing one of your cars before with a scratched chassis and it was a big inspiration to try it for myself ! really looking forward to more on this, should be an awesome build with the truck n trailer !
Cool Hand Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 13 hours ago, afx said: Looks like a great project Luke. Thanks JC, going to be challenging but im trying. 13 hours ago, Sandboarder said: Really good progress so far! You can’t go wrong with a sideways racing car ? Thanks mate, hope to keep the progress on going and not get burnt out. LOL! 12 hours ago, espo said: For someone who professes to not knowing what they're doing this looks pretty advanced to me. I'm usually more of the "wing it" type builder. I'll enjoy seeing what all you do with this. LOL! I dont know jack about drift cars, but like to think I can glue some styrene together and make something. 6 hours ago, Lowlife ! ! said: Hi Luke ! Must admit this is one of the best chassis building tutorials I've seen . Some great advice and tips here ! Remember seeing one of your cars before with a scratched chassis and it was a big inspiration to try it for myself ! really looking forward to more on this, should be an awesome build with the truck n trailer ! Hello Martin. Just trying to share some techniques learned along the way from many people I have observed and learnt from in the hobby and real world. Yeah I have attempted a few scratch built chassis, only one build ever made it through to completion though. Thats what I like the most about the hobby, sharing the builds and inspiring each other. The days of the old Lay It Low model car forum is where I seen many builders who inspired me and I learnt alot of scratch building techniques from the mini truck builders. Hope to keep pushing forward and turn the dream/idea into reality. Could be a cool looking set up, if I can make it happen.
Cool Hand Posted December 27, 2019 Author Posted December 27, 2019 Just trying out an idea, think I can make these over fenders work. They from the Aoshima Rasty S13 Silvia kit #50989
streetmachine11 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 great start this will be a cool build. you've got a nice concept looking forward to see how this evolves
Reuhkapelti2 Posted December 27, 2019 Posted December 27, 2019 What a great start for that good looking drifter. That chassis preparations and building is pure art and science. So joyful to watch.
Cool Hand Posted December 28, 2019 Author Posted December 28, 2019 23 hours ago, streetmachine11 said: great start this will be a cool build. you've got a nice concept looking forward to see how this evolves Thank you Jason, hopefully the concept will evolve and be come be a reality. 23 hours ago, Reuhkapelti2 said: What a great start for that good looking drifter. That chassis preparations and building is pure art and science. So joyful to watch. Thanks Ismo, just experimenting to try and see a cool result of an idea. 19 hours ago, vamach1 said: One to watch. Looks well thought out. Try to think and plan ahead, but always something comes up requiring a re-think.
Cool Hand Posted December 28, 2019 Author Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Started on the front end. Made a cross member out of 2mm x 4mm and filed some grooves to provide a seat for some 2.4mm tube. Also used some 2mm x 2mm square solid for engine mounts. Attached the 2.4mm which A arms will locate to and also cut short pieces for arm ends. After fussing for awhile, settled on way to make some A arms. Using the design on the paper, a piece of acrylic sheet and some sticky tape. Made up a quick jig to build the A arms. 2mm acrylic. Cut out the design, covered it with sticky tape and stuck it down on the acrylic piece. Drill some holes for pin location. Position 2.4mm tube over the pins. Cut and bend some 1.6mm rod. Cut out section of the tape and paper. Using super glue attach a spacer(2.4mm tube) between the rods and using a pin/1mm alumninum locate and fit up arm ends. Glue the three joins, allow to set up then remove. Fit up to cross member location. Forgive the roughness, as the topic title implies it is a Back Yard Special. Stub axles and top arms next update. Edited December 28, 2019 by Cool Hand 1
Belugawrx Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 Great tutorial, Thanks for showing the process ! Watching Cheers 1
NOBLNG Posted December 28, 2019 Posted December 28, 2019 (edited) Fantastic project! I have not ventured into scratch building yet, but it has crossed my mind. This excellent tutorial makes the process seem much less daunting. Thanks! P.S. Do you use only super glue for all the structural joints? Edited December 28, 2019 by NOBLNG 1
Cool Hand Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 22 hours ago, Belugawrx said: Great tutorial, Thanks for showing the process ! Watching Cheers Thanks Bruce, always enjoy seeing other members share the build process in detail, just trying to give back and do the same as it can be helpful to see how things are done. 21 hours ago, NOBLNG said: Fantastic project! I have not ventured into scratch building yet, but it has crossed my mind. This excellent tutorial makes the process seem much less daunting. Thanks! P.S. Do you use only super glue for all the structural joints? Thank you Greg. Its a challenging project but breaking it down into sections and tackle them one at a time makes it less over whelming. Depends on the joint, all the chassis frame joints are super glue and it is applied like it would be welded on a 1:1. Other joints that require positioning to get aligned etc, plastic cement is used to allow to time for movement. Then once finalized apply super glue over that to lock it in place and that helps provide a bit more strength to the joint. The glues used are.
Cool Hand Posted December 29, 2019 Author Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Again after some fussing, worked out some stub axles. And using same technique as shown before. Spot glue with 401/super glue, some 1.5mm styrene plate. Spot glue the paper onto the styrene. Cut and shaped using tools previously shown and drilled. Separate. Cut some small squares of 1mm. Flipped over the mitre box and used the corner to set up the pieces. Component turned around to set up other end. Set the components up on each end, that way they will be opposite to each other. Using a small cap screw and a pin vice as a handle to hold whilst shaping the ends. Quick test fit. Upper A arms made same way as the lowers. Rough design. Test fitting, upper A arm mount not finalized yet. Just spot glued for now. Quick test fit of the wheels, adjustments will be made later. And sussing out how its looking and thinking about things ahead. Edited December 30, 2019 by Cool Hand 1
streetmachine11 Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 looking real good keep up the great work! awesome build
Reuhkapelti2 Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Just perrrrfect. You should have a see through body on that chassis.
madhorseman Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 Cool project! Can't to see this when you complete this one!!
misterNNL Posted December 29, 2019 Posted December 29, 2019 On 12/26/2019 at 10:51 AM, Cool Hand said: Not one to post this type of wip on here, as its not up to standard. But thought some might enjoy the process of the build. And maybe the end result. So we will get it straight from the start, I dont know jack about drift cars this is just me dreaming and building something for a community build on another site. I dont care about scale accuracy, this is me building what I want from my imagination and creativity. Il source ideas from all over the interweb and put my own spin on it and put it into the builds. The inspiration The kit. Wheels. And going to need a way to get it to the track. Ok, lets see how this goes. As always start of with a box stock mock, to see where things are at. Stock roller, looks like a 4x4. Needs to be lowered alot. Super charger is just for jokes. Stock chassis, aint going to cut it so it will be replace with a scratch built. So the fun begins. Your workbench is way too clean and organized.
Cool Hand Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 15 hours ago, misterNNL said: Your workbench is way too clean and organized. LOL! yes always. Thats how I like be. When I was an apprentice many years ago, old timer I worked with taught me to tidy up and put tools away after each process of the job. And then repeat and do a good clean up at the end of each day. That has stayed with me all my working life and do the same with home life with everything I do no matter what the task is. 2
Cool Hand Posted December 30, 2019 Author Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) Started some work on the front suspension. Purchased these for this build. Temporarily glued together. Use this for glue for some temporary assemblies. Didnt have anything suitable in the spare parts, so had to scratch build some parts from 2.5mm tube. Scalloped Attached second piece. Drilled out some 3.2mm tube with a 2.5mm drill. Fitted the small rings over 2.5mm. Repeated the process for the other ends. Used some 6mm x 4mm to get an equal distance on each side from the frame, and transfer a mark onto the lower arm. To make the mounts a piece of 0.20 was cut to a 3mm wide strip. Drilled each with a 1.2mm and shaped the end. Repeated twice to get 4 ends which will become the mounts. And fitted over some 1.2mm rod for a handle, to shape them the same. Worked out the length. Using same 0.20 x 3mm strip, a piece was cut to attach to the arm first. After cutting the 4 pieces fitted them to a 1.2mm rod and used as a handle to help attach to arm plate. Will work out the top mount later. Need to get a few other things in the engine bay built first. Next will move onto the rear and get the diff etc figured out and situated. I know its rough, but doing the best I can with skills I have. Edited December 30, 2019 by Cool Hand 1
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