*First Airbrush*

[Zippi]

My local Hobby Lobby has the Iwata NEO CN Gravity-Feed Dual Action Airbrush that I'm looking at.  They also sell the Wicked and CreateX paint.  Is this ok for a beginner and is the paint ok?

[youpey]

1 hour ago, Zippi said:

My local Hobby Lobby has the Iwata NEO CN Gravity-Feed Dual Action Airbrush that I'm looking at.  They also sell the Wicked and CreateX paint.  Is this ok for a beginner and is the paint ok?

i cant speak for the paint, but i have the same airbrush. i really like it a lot. its very easy to use 

[FLHCAHZ]

Yes!  That will get you started off on the right foot.  Learn about thinking the paint, use plastic spoons to practice 

[stinkybritches]

Createx paints, like most paints, are great if applied properly. I suggest going to their Youtube channel and checking out their videos. They give you all the information you need to know about how to thin and apply their paints. The rest is practice, practice, practice.

[Zippi]

Thanks guys.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  I thought the Createx paints were pre-mixed?

[TransAmMike]

Tried the Createx and honestly, like craaft acrylic better. Just my 2-cents!!

[Zippi]

I'll check out the Craft acrylic.  Is the needle that comes with the Iwata airbrush I mentioned about ok or would it need a different needle and what size?

[TransAmMike]

Don't know what size tip on the Iwata but anywhere from a #3 to #5 is fine.  It's all in the thinning.

[FLHCAHZ]

For painting model bodies, any size is ok-  you will get used to it. Practice on plastic spoons. Lots os them. The  createx  that I have used, I did need to thin down. Check out me thread in WIP country Charger. I do kind a stop by step on how I do it.  You can see the reusults. 

[935k3]

The NEO is a .35mm tip. This size is good for every thing. A .500mm tip is a little better for bodies though. It' all about thinning and air pressure.

Edited March 8, 2021 by 935k3

[Zippi]

I found this Paasche H which seems to have good reviews. Anyone have this one that could comment on the quality?

[hedotwo]

22 minutes ago, Zippi said:

I found this Paasche H which seems to have good reviews. Anyone have this one that could comment on the quality?

The Paasche H is a workhorse.  Easy to clean, sprays good.  Plus, it's a single action which may or may not be better to start with.

Edited March 8, 2021 by hedotwo

[NOBLNG]

11 minutes ago, Zippi said:

I found this Paasche H which seems to have good reviews. Anyone have this one that could comment on the quality?

It is top quality, you will not be disappointed. It comes with 2 “needles” and 3 nozzles. My first airbrush was an Iwata eclipse (also top quality) but I haven’t touched it since getting my Paasche H. The H sprays beautifully and is super easy to clean. I love the external mix system...nothing inside the airbrush to clean. I recommend getting some extra glass jars from Paasche. The jars are great for doing bodies and larger items. The cup is nice for smaller one coat jobs.

[Dave G.]

The Neo is fine, the .35 tip fine. It's all about mixing paint right for the tip and air pressure you use. With airbrushing when you thin for spraying, generally speaking, means that thinner is usually better than too thick a blend. If to error do so to the thin side and just add an extra coat or two. Bear in mind that water or thinner or even ink spray wonderfully from any airbrush but un-thinned paint not at all. So you need to hit that correct blend in between there. That correct blend is more about viscosity than it is ratio of thinner to paint but people love to think in terms of ratio !  The finer the tip the more a thinner viscosity matters.

A few people here use Createx paint. Bear in mind that that particular paint was originally designed for fabric and the Tee Shirt industry, so it's rubbery and flexible that it won't crack apart on fabrics. The Createx choice for hard substrates and for automotive use is AutoAir. The original Createx also isn't easy to sand. IMO there are better options out there that are easier to work with. With that said I know the draw to Createx is tempting, availability, quantity for price, number of colors etc, just understand that it's a more difficult starting point. Those who master it do get nice results.

[Dave G.]

1 hour ago, Zippi said:

I found this Paasche H which seems to have good reviews. Anyone have this one that could comment on the quality?

I have an H I use quite a bit, works fine and built like a tank (it's not my only airbrush). But note that listing says it's used, you can get a brand new one for around that same price.

 

[NOBLNG]

58 minutes ago, Dave G. said:

But note that listing says it's used, you can get a brand new one for around that same price.

 

It also says “incomplete”.

[bisc63]

At the top of the page in this forum, there's a very informative sticky thread about first airbrush choices, lots and lots of good info there!

[Venom]

On 3/7/2021 at 4:10 PM, Zippi said:

My local Hobby Lobby has the Iwata NEO CN Gravity-Feed Dual Action Airbrush that I'm looking at.  They also sell the Wicked and CreateX paint.  Is this ok for a beginner and is the paint ok?

Iwatas are the best airbrushes. All Createx paint is good, but their ‘Wicked’ and ‘Auto Air’ line is best. Their paint comes premixed, but being waterborne, it is easy and fun to experiment with mixing to customize colors. The fact that you are just starting out with this makes it especially good to be using Createx since you won’t have other brand paint issues floating around in your head and you will therefore pick up the learning curve faster by just using Createx branded product ... that’s what I’d suggest anyway. 

Ps, for waterborne paints cleanup of your airbrush etc, just us any window cleaner/Windex with ammonia in it.

Edited March 9, 2021 by Venom

[Zippi]

Thanks for all the info guys.  Just placed my order for the Paasche H.  

[bisc63]

10 hours ago, Zippi said:

Thanks for all the info guys.  Just placed my order for the Paasche H.  

You won't be disappointed, and you'll be using it years from now.

[Rodent]

28 minutes ago, bisc63 said:

You won't be disappointed, and you'll be using it years from now.

I don't use it a lot, but I have had mine around 40 years. It's really to use and even easier to clean.

[Zippi]

Got my Paasche H airbrush last night.  Hooked it up this morning to give it a try.  I had some Ceramcoat paint so I thinned it with thinner. Took a few try's to get it spraying correctly but I think I finally have it close. I have my air pressure set to 25 PSI.  I never change the PSI, I just worked on thinning the paint more.  It sprayed the best when it was almost like water.  I'll probably practice a lot before I attempt to spray my first kit. 

[Dave G.]

Craft paint can vary quite a bit by what you thin it with too. What did you use for thinner ?

[Zippi]

36 minutes ago, Dave G. said:

Craft paint can vary quite a bit by what you thin it with too. What did you use for thinner ?

I thinned it with Lacquer thinner.

Edited March 14, 2021 by Zippi

[peteski]

2 minutes ago, Zippi said:

I thinned it with Lacquer thinner.

Craft paints are usually water-based acrylic enamels. I'm glad that lacquer thinner did not cause it to curdle.