Wish round 2 would release some obscure stuff

[jeffp60]

Original IH Scout 800, valiant, plymouth Volare, tourismo, convertibles etc..

I'm  sure alot of people would love to build more "cheap", stock and common cars that they owned. 

[1972coronet]

6 minutes ago, jeffp60 said:

Original IH Scout 800, valiant, plymouth Volare, tourismo, convertibles etc..

I'm  sure alot of people would love to build more "cheap", stock and common cars that they owned. 

I can't attest to the Scout 800; however, the Volare was reissued in its 1980 guise some +/- 10 years ago as the Fuzz Duster (the original 1980 annual kit).

I'd imagine that the old AMT Valiant (1965 or 1966 was the last year) is doable, just like the 1968 GTO ( Craftsman Plus ) .

At least one of Round2s representatives , @SteveG, posts frequently on this board. Likewise, @tim boyd shares updates (and reviews on his Fotoki [?] page. 

[espo]

While the molds have probably been melted down, I still wonder if the molds for the old AMT annuals of the '60 and '61 Plymouth Valiant and Dodge Lancer compacts are still out there. 

[mikemodeler]

The first gen Scout is available in 3D printed resin from Robert Burns, accurate body and drops onto the AMT/Ertl reissued second gen Scout chassis with some slight mods.

[GMP440]

Would love to see Round 2  release the 72-74 Dodge Adventurer trucks.

Edited June 10, 2023 by GMP440

[tim boyd]

21 hours ago, GMP440 said:

Would love to see Round 2  release the 72-74 Adventurer trucks.

Me too....TB  

[stavanzer]

The Dodge Trucks is the First suggestion I've seen that for a tool that exists. (other than the Volare).

I get what Folks want, but Obscure "Plain-Jane" cars and Everyday "Mainstreamers" are just not something that ever was destined to sell in large enough numbers to sell well.

Promos commissioned by the factory were often Up Optioned cars, that many wanted but few would buy. Detroit was selling Dreams, and few dreamed of a Base Model, Four Door Sedan. But, that is what sold in the largest number in the 1 to 1 world. Not in every case and not for every car, but that happened most often. The last Model Company experiments with Four Door, "ordinary' car stopped in the early 1970's. It took a huge ground swell of verified consumer interest almost 20 years later to get the next 4 door sedan with Revell stepping up to the plate, with the Caprice Police Car kit. And even after that success, with the Ford Crown Vic, and a Lindberg Dodge Caravan tooled, the Plain Cars have disappeared again.

It is my opinion that the Modern Model companies do not have the Spare Tooling Dollars to invest in anything that they do not believe will be a Home Run, right out of the box. The days of tooling up something off the beaten path, and taking a chance are over.

So, The 1908 Thomas Flyer, and similar kits are long gone, and nothing like them will be tooled again.

 

If you really want the kinds of Mainstream, Base Model subjects, get ready to work with Resin & 3D printing. Those are the folks who can take risks in subject matter. If you do not want to work in those mediums, You're Outta Luck, I.M.H.O.

[Can-Con]

30 minutes ago, stavanzer said:

The Dodge Trucks is the First suggestion I've seen that for a tool that exists. (other than the Volare).

I get what Folks want, but Obscure "Plain-Jane" cars and Everyday "Mainstreamers" are just not something that ever was destined to sell in large enough numbers to sell well.

Promos commissioned by the factory were often Up Optioned cars, that many wanted but few would buy. Detroit was selling Dreams, and few dreamed of a Base Model, Four Door Sedan. But, that is what sold in the largest number in the 1 to 1 world. Not in every case and not for every car, but that happened most often. The last Model Company experiments with Four Door, "ordinary' car stopped in the early 1970's. It took a huge ground swell of verified consumer interest almost 20 years later to get the next 4 door sedan with Revell stepping up to the plate, with the Caprice Police Car kit. And even after that success, with the Ford Crown Vic, and a Lindberg Dodge Caravan tooled, the Plain Cars have disappeared again.

It is my opinion that the Modern Model companies do not have the Spare Tooling Dollars to invest in anything that they do not believe will be a Home Run, right out of the box. The days of tooling up something off the beaten path, and taking a chance are over.

So, The 1908 Thomas Flyer, and similar kits are long gone, and nothing like them will be tooled again.

 

If you really want the kinds of Mainstream, Base Model subjects, get ready to work with Resin & 3D printing. Those are the folks who can take risks in subject matter. If you do not want to work in those mediums, You're Outta Luck, I.M.H.O.

You forgot the AMT Ford Taurus. It first came out in what,,  '88 or '89?

A few years before the Revell Chevys.

[stavanzer]

2 hours ago, Can-Con said:

You forgot the AMT Ford Taurus. It first came out in what,,  '88 or '89?

A few years before the Revell Chevys.

I did indeed forget the Taurus.

Nice Catch!

[Luc Janssens]

4 hours ago, stavanzer said:

I get what Folks want, but Obscure "Plain-Jane" cars and Everyday "Mainstreamers" are just not something that ever was destined to sell in large enough numbers to sell well.

Promos commissioned by the factory were often Up Optioned cars, that many wanted but few would buy. Detroit was selling Dreams, and few dreamed of a Base Model, Four Door Sedan. But, that is what sold in the largest number in the 1 to 1 world. Not in every case and not for every car, but that happened most often. The last Model Company experiments with Four Door, "ordinary' car stopped in the early 1970's. It took a huge ground swell of verified consumer interest almost 20 years later to get the next 4 door sedan with Revell stepping up to the plate, with the Caprice Police Car kit. And even after that success, with the Ford Crown Vic, and a Lindberg Dodge Caravan tooled, the Plain Cars have disappeared again.

It is my opinion that the Modern Model companies do not have the Spare Tooling Dollars to invest in anything that they do not believe will be a Home Run, right out of the box. The days of tooling up something off the beaten path, and taking a chance are over.

I haven't been to car shows on US soil for a while, but from what I remember going to some of them in the past, most showed either top of the line or coups. cars most dreamed of having, but most family guys had to settle buying low or mid optioned 4drs., so wondering what cars attract the most traffic on cars shows today, the cars we'd love to have or the family cars we remember driving or seeing in large numbers on the street back in the day.

[Luc Janssens]

12 hours ago, tim boyd said:

Me too....TB  

An interesting one too, would be combining the '79 uteline with the '78 sweptside, creating a faux '79 annual kit, preferably a Powerwagon.

[niteowl7710]

On 6/11/2023 at 2:20 AM, stavanzer said:

I did indeed forget the Taurus.

Nice Catch!

The Taurus is a perfectly acceptable omission considering what AMT provided was an SHO with a lightbar, some half-hearted decals and a different set of wheels. But an actual Taurus Police Package was based on the GL trim level, had the off the shelf non-SHO V-6, column shifter, cloth bench, vinyl floor. I mean it would take a LOT of significant work to make those kit contents into anything approaching what the real 1:1 car looked like...

The SHO was marketed as a executive sports sedan, especially in the 1st Gen form when that Yamaha tuned engine and a slushbox in a sedan was a wild idea in an American car.

Edited June 14, 2023 by niteowl7710

[Chuck Most]

On 6/11/2023 at 12:15 AM, Can-Con said:

You forgot the AMT Ford Taurus. It first came out in what,,  '88 or '89?

A few years before the Revell Chevys.

Yep, you're right on the mark about the time frame. Though to be fair, AMT kitted the SHO. Yes the Taurus was a mainstream car but the Taurus SHO was, I don't know... The Hemi 'Cuda to the standard Taurus's slant six base model Barracuda. Quite a far piece from a base model sedan. ? The fact that Ford commissioned a promo probably didn't hurt and of course they were going to go with the new get up and go Euro fighter version to promote. 

And by the time the promos and kits came you had the Robocop buzz going, even though none of the Tauruses used in Robocop were SHO, or even police versions (Robocop being filmed in 1986-87 and the proper police package Taurus wasn't a thing until 1990), and boy howdy Ertl leaned into that too. ?

But I guess that doesn't guarantee a kit. In the late 90s and early 00's Revell did every Ford SVT product ... Except he Contour. Naturally the Lightning and Cobra were kitted, even the Focus when Revell had their brief fling with tuners, but they ignored the Contour SVT. Much like the world at large ignored it. ?

[Luc Janssens]

21 minutes ago, Chuck Most said:

Yep, you're right on the mark about the time frame. Though to be fair, AMT kitted the SHO. Yes the Taurus was a mainstream car but the Taurus SHO was, I don't know... The Hemi 'Cuda to the standard Taurus's slant six base model Barracuda. Quite a far piece from a base model sedan. ? The fact that Ford commissioned a promo probably didn't hurt and of course they were going to go with the new get up and go Euro fighter version to promote. 

And by the time the promos and kits came you had the Robocop buzz going, even though none of the Tauruses used in Robocop were SHO, or even police versions (Robocop being filmed in 1986-87 and the proper police package Taurus wasn't a thing until 1990), and boy howdy Ertl leaned into that too. ?

But I guess that doesn't guarantee a kit. In the late 90s and early 00's Revell did every Ford SVT product ... Except he Contour. Naturally the Lightning and Cobra were kitted, even the Focus when Revell had their brief fling with tuners, but they ignored the Contour SVT. Much like the world at large ignored it. ?

While the Taurus is for 95% a neatly detailed kit, the headlamps sling it back into a self assemble toy. A pitty realy.

[Chuck Most]

2 hours ago, Luc Janssens said:

While the Taurus is for 95% a neatly detailed kit, the headlamps sling it back into a self assemble toy. A pitty realy.

That's Ertl for you. Chrome headlights well into the 90s. 

[Luc Janssens]

3 minutes ago, Chuck Most said:

That's Ertl for you. Chrome headlights well into the 90s. 

The big reason as a teen I preferred Monogram kits.

[jeffp60]

I'm thinking those born in 50s,60s would want to build what they drove and could afford to buy.

[Tabbysdaddy]

I don't see the Chevy Malibu on that 4 door list. 1/32, the forgotten scale.

[1972coronet]

52 minutes ago, Tabbysdaddy said:

I don't see the Chevy Malibu on that 4 door list. 1/32, the forgotten scale.

Classic kit of a classic 9C1.  IMO - shared at that - a 1/25 scale version would be even better. 

I still cheerfully chuckle when I see the issue of that kit with the Mt. Prospect (Ill.) livery, right down to the 'P1' on the rear doors.

[Tabbysdaddy]

17 minutes ago, 1972coronet said:

Classic kit of a classic 9C1.  IMO - shared at that - a 1/25 scale version would be even better. 

I still cheerfully chuckle when I see the issue of that kit with the Mt. Prospect (Ill.) livery, right down to the 'P1' on the rear doors.

I agree, would love to have it in 1/25.

[jeffp60]

On 6/9/2023 at 9:34 PM, mikemodeler said:

The first gen Scout is available in 3D printed resin from Robert Burns, accurate body and drops onto the AMT/Ertl reissued second gen Scout chassis with some slight mods.

Mikemodeler, only one i saw was junkyard scout 2.

[mikemodeler]

2 hours ago, jeffp60 said:

Mikemodeler, only one i saw was junkyard scout 2.

Right from his May order page:

 

Misc Truck	1970	International	Scout	Hardtop	2dr	Truck
Misc Truck	1970	International	Scout	Hardtop	2dr	Truck
Misc Truck	1970	International	Scout	Truck Top	2dr	Truck
Misc Truck	1970	International	Scout	Fast Top	2dr	Truck
Misc Truck	1970	International	Scout	No Top	2dr	Truck
Misc Truck	1970	International	Scout	Panel Delivery	2dr	Truck
Misc Truck	1970	International	Scout	Phantom Van	2dr	Van

 

[fairlane1320]

66 Cyclone Hardtop/Convertible

67-68, 70 Cougar

68-69 Cyclone

68-69 Fairlane/Torino Hardtop/Convertible

65-70 Mustang Convertible

68 Shelby Convertible

70-71 Cyclone

60-70 Galaxie convertible

[1st 700 Quad]

On 6/11/2023 at 3:53 AM, Luc Janssens said:

I haven't been to car shows on US soil for a while, but from what I remember going to some of them in the past, most showed either top of the line or coups. cars most dreamed of having, but most family guys had to settle buying low or mid optioned 4drs., so wondering what cars attract the most traffic on cars shows today, the cars we'd love to have or the family cars we remember driving or seeing in large numbers on the street back in the day.

There used to be a feature on the Spotlight Hobbies Message Board called, "What people really drove." and it featured lots of plain Jane cars and 4-doors (Which I really like). Unfortunately model companies treat these cars like the plague.

[Luc Janssens]

1 hour ago, 1st 700 Quad said:

There used to be a feature on the Spotlight Hobbies Message Board called, "What people really drove." and it featured lots of plain Jane cars and 4-doors (Which I really like). Unfortunately model companies treat these cars like the plague.

Maybe, maybe not, the market ain't what it used to be.