Foxer Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Speaking of '49 Hudsons, (weren't we?), does anyone have any photos of the '49 Hudson Stilleto by Fidel Ascencio that won the 2010 Long Beach Motorama Dean Jefferies Award for Creative Excellence. It seems odd that there's no photo's of an award winner in any coverage I find.
Guest Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Ok lets start up a pole here to see how many people on here want the 74 Monaco. With both stock and blues brothers options. I had to look up a '74 Monaco. Wow! That is one ugly car! I wouldn't build that if it came pre painted and they gave it to me,much less pay for it.
Chuck Most Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Yes, the '74 Monaco is an ugly car. I'd love to have that in kit form, though! I think there are quite a few ugly cars in kit form already (Late model Dodge Charger, '78 Chevy Monte Carlo, any Corvette built after 1967...), but I'd still like a big old '70's Mopar land barge done up to today's tooling standards. As long as it isn't a near-total turd like the Trumpeter Monte Carlo, that is.
Danno Posted February 5, 2011 Posted February 5, 2011 Too old and obscure. Rob, You know that 'tongue-in-cheek' doesn't require critique! Let the humor flow ... ommmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Harry P. Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 Now that we're finally getting a Hornet kit, how about a Tucker next? Full detail, engine and all. How about it, Moebius? You guys seem to be the likeliest candidate for the job, seeing as how you have the you-know-whats to actually take the plunge and bring us some cool new models... And speaking of Tuckers... I read in the paper last Sunday that a previously unaccounted-for Tucker was found in a barn after having sat for 50+ years. Unrestored, all original except for an old repaint and replaced upholstery. An actual honest-to-goodness "barn find." What are the odds that after all these years another Tucker comes to light? Pretty amazing. Here's the story: http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/fun/sc-cons-0127-autocover-20110127-48,0,1372588.story
Chuck Most Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 Moebius Tucker... build it as the stock verison, or the 'Lower 48' street rod version! Oh, yeah. I don't even like the Tucker, but I might be inclined to pick a couple of them up.
Dr. Cranky Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 I'll pick up any kit that sparks my imagination and the Tucker most certainly would. Chuck, I love your idea!
Joe Handley Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 I'd take a Tucker, the Kaiser's, or just about any obscure car for that matter.
Chuck Most Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 I'll take ANY Kaiser (besides the Henry J, which already exists in kit form, albeit as a drag car). And for gawd's sake... how many people must I maim before we have a bullet-nose Studebaker kit????
Foxer Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 And for gawd's sake... how many people must I maim before we have a bullet-nose Studebaker kit???? Oh yeah! Now, that would be a great one for Moebius after the spectacular success' of their first two car models!
MrObsessive Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 You guys are talkin' Studebakers, why not a 1957-58 Golden Hawk?? That would be one I'd buy in a heartbeat!
Casey Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) I'll take ANY Kaiser (besides the Henry J, which already exists in kit form, albeit as a drag car). And for gawd's sake... how many people must I maim before we have a bullet-nose Studebaker kit???? I guess if we're going down the list of Independent models which have yet to be kitted, a '50-'51 Studebaker bulletnose would be the best choice. The better looking '53 Starliner and Avanti have already been done, and the Kaiser Henry J, too, so we're getting down to slim pickin's as far as recognizability is concerned. The only problem is, I don't recall seeing a ton of '50-'51 Studes turned into gassers like I have with the Henry J, but it could always be made as a 2'n'1 kit with vintage speed parts. People eat up pie-crust slicks, reversed chrome steelies, and straight axles on leaf springs. Edited February 6, 2011 by Casey
Rob Hall Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 I guess if we're going down the list of Independent models which have yet to be kitted, a '50-'51 Studebaker bulletnose would be the best choice. The better looking '53 Starliner and Avanti have already been done, and the Kaiser Henry J, too, so we're getting down to slim pickin's as far as recognizability is concerned. The only problem is, I don't recall seeing a ton of '50-'51 Studes turned into gassers like I have with the Henry J, but it could always be made as a 2'n'1 kit with vintage speed parts. People eat up pie-crust slicks, reversed chrome steelies, and straight axles on leaf springs. For Studies, I'd like to see a Golden Hawk or the beautiful '62 GT Hawk over the ugly bulletnose..
Casey Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 For Studies, I'd like to see a Golden Hawk or the beautiful '62 GT Hawk over the ugly bulletnose.. Different strokes for different folks. I consider the '53 Starliner hardtop the pinnacle of Studebaker design, so the '57 Golden Hawk seems like the same car with unnecessary fins and a pig-nosed hood to my eyes: The fins do actually work with the swept roofline, but they ruin the '53's tapering rear quarter panel lines. The formal roofline of the '62 GT erases even more of the original design IMHO, but if it's formal, squared lines you like, I can see its appeal. I would argue the ugliness of the Bulletnose, but I still think it's likable in the same way as a Gremlin- not the most fluid design, but still well-proportioned enough that it's not grouped with the Pacer and Pontiac Aztek/Buick Rendezvous. The front bumper on the '50 is horrible, looking like a complete afterthought, but I guess if you're going to go for broke (or eventually go broke ) you might as well put all your cards in a bet the house on the design:
charlie8575 Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 What? No interest in a '55 Kaiser Dragon? Not even a ''50 Frazer Manhattan? What's this World coming to, anyway? Art Me! Me! Me! I'd love a good Kaiser or Frazer. Talk about a brake from the normal! Along with a Willys Aero or Bermuda. Charlie Larkin
charlie8575 Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 Steve is right, a new '68-'72 Chevy Chevelle/Malibu in 1/25 scale based on the current Revell '72 Olds Cutlass tooling would be a great idea, and quite honestly, Revell could pump out twenty years worth of "new" kits based solely on this shared tooling: (add your favorite up- and down-market options as packages as you see fit) '68-'72 Chevelle/Malibu '70-'72 Olds Cutlass (the ex MPC '69 tooling isn't horrible, so I'm leaving the '68-9s out for now) '70-'72 Pontiac LeMans/GTO (see above for '68-'69 GTOs- yes, the Monogram interior is incorrect for a '68...) '68-'69 Buick Skylark- I think the Monogram '70 GSX still holds up fairly well, but it's 1/24 scale, so...) '70-'72 Buick Skylark GS/GSX I have to wonder if, in twenty years, someone will be complaining about another Revell GM A-body kit coming out. If so, I think it's be a good problem to have. I would take all of the above, especially with main-streamer parts included or good aftermarket support for the same. Charlie Larkin
charlie8575 Posted February 6, 2011 Posted February 6, 2011 I like the ideas of the Studebakers, Tuckers, and any of the full-size cars from the 1960s-'70s. I'd love to see some more variety of off-the-beaten path. We need it, and the smaller companies can take the risk perhaps a bit easier. Maybe it's time we did. If risks aren't taken, we atrophy and that could be more disastrous. Charlie Larkin
Harry P. Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 I understand the daring to be different & taking risks, but some things are simply too obscure to even warrant a first thought of producing, let alone a second. Oh yeah?!!! We'll see who's laughing when they produce a kit of the Reeves Octo-auto!!!
Chuck Most Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Oh yeah?!!! We'll see who's laughing when they produce a kit of the Reeves Octo-auto!!! Forget that. Call me when Moebius (or anyone else) does a Scott Sociable kit!
Zoom Zoom Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Forget that. Call me when Moebius (or anyone else) does a Scott Sociable kit! Oh please, you know they have to go a little more mainstream than that. I think they'd make a whole ten dollars of profit on an Amphicar
Chuck Most Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 Oh please, you know they have to go a little more mainstream than that. I think they'd make a whole ten dollars of profit on an Amphicar Jeesh... good thing I didn't suggest the 1769 Cugnot Steam Wagon! And I'm patiently waiting for the Amphicar from Ma's Resin... sure hope Al makes a bit more than ten bucks off that venture!
Darin Bastedo Posted February 7, 2011 Posted February 7, 2011 And the question is this, (& I'm not being mean or sarcastic, this is a serious question); After the ten or so people that even remember some of these cars mentioned buy kits tooled up of them, what do the manufacturers do with the other 49,990 left of each one from the initial tooling run? Risks are one thing, but some of these ideas being floated are sheer commercial suicide. There's a reason that for the most part, replica stock models have by & large tanked in the marketplace, & bringing out a kit of a Willys Aero will not change that for the better. I understand the daring to be different & taking risks, but some things are simply too obscure to even warrant a first thought of producing, let alone a second. Replica stock models by and large have not tanked in the market place. The Monogram muscle cars of the eighties did quite well for them (1970 Boss 429, Challenger T/A, 1971 Hemi Cuda etc) all of them were stock only kits. Same thing with the AMT 1967 Impalas, 1971 duster, 1967 Mustang etc were all stock only releases. All of limbergs new tools were all replica stock models and well recieved by modelers Being a replica stock offering will not doom a model to commercial failure. aside from that, the market place today is not looking at trying to make a profit selling 100k units to walmart at $2.00 each. They are looking at lower volume sales at higher margins making the risk lower. The average modeler is getting older and starting to enjoy the hobby of their youth. many of them are kids who grew up in the 50s and 60's who will remember the cars mentioned here.
Harry P. Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 Oh please, you know they have to go a little more mainstream than that. I think they'd make a whole ten dollars of profit on an Amphicar Probably make a lot more if the model actually floated!
Chuck Kourouklis Posted February 8, 2011 Posted February 8, 2011 booooooo... (and if ya got me sayin "boo", that's somethin' right there)
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