unclescott58

From what I can see, using the above link, it does not look too bad. I like the decals. Offering one a choice to do it in just about any color combination one could want. I don't know it worth $50. But, at the right price it might be worth picking up. I'm glad to hear you find the AMT G17 to be one of nicest Staggerwing kits out there. I agree. I've built two over the years. And I was pleased with them both. I've wondered about Roden kit. And I can't remember if I've know about or even seen the Sword kits in the past or not? I feel like I may run across them. But, I'm not sure.

The link seems to prove you right. Boy, is that a stinker. I don't get what they were thinking on that one.

The Stagger caught my eye. How good or bad was this and Bonanza kit? How does the ITC Stagger compare to the AMT kit, which I like a lot?

A '69 or '70 300 convertible would be cool with me, as long as it could be built showroom stock. Heck, any '69 - '71 300 kit would be cool to have. I love the big, full-size performance cars. Buick Wildcat and Chrysler 300 are two of my favorites.

Looks photoshopped to me.

Are we beating a dead horse here? I stated above that I maybe wrong.

I wonder if there is enough in this kit that Round 2 could easily convert it into a showroom stock Vega? Looking at Tim's photos, it looks like it might be possible. I hope so.

I'm glad to you got your's Tim. Hopefully Model Roundup will be sending the one I preordered soon now. Even though I like the 2nd generation Camaros with the RS front end better than the full bumper non RS Camaros. I really like the looks of the full bumper non RSs too. And it's been a long time since we've been offered this style on this generation Camaro kit. I also agree with your comment on the Ertl-Mueller team Camaro. I liked the one I built several years ago. It's a very nice kit. And I'm expecting nothing less from the Round 2 version. I hoping and assuming they did not lose the RS version, to bring us this kit. And I'm also hoping, that with their announcement of the upcoming Bond '71 Mustang, they will put the time and money into fixing that front end so it will be correct now.

Just got the kit in the mail today. Just watched video now, even before opening up my kit. I like what I see in the video. Being a life long resident of Minnesota, I was delighted to see the Minnesota license plates. A nice added bonus!

Even though I'm not as critical of the AMT '69 Chevelle kit as everybody else is, I too had to get the new Revell version.

I'm still not buying that the Hong QI CA-72 is a '55 Chrysler or Imperial. Does it looks similar? Yes. But, not exactly the same. It's like Soviet ZIS-110s and ZIL-111s. They look a lot like cars Packard built, until you put then side by side. The Soviets looked at buying dies for the pre-war Packard 180 from Briggs Body Corp of Detroit, Michigan, the body supplier to Packard, in 1942. They decided the car would need to be reengineered to meet the climatic and terrain conditions of the USSR. But, since Marshal Josef Stalin like and rode around in Packards, rather than the Buick looking ZIS-101, guess what the ZIS-111 looked like? Now I'm not denying that the Hong QI CA-72 looks a lot like and may have been inspired by the '55 Chryslers and Imperials, with the relationship the United States had with China at the time, I do believe they were built using Chrysler tooling or dies. Look at the photos below, and compare them to the Imperial above. They are not the same.

Oh no. Using the dreaded Wikipedia as your main source? Very few educators will accept papers where Wikipedia was used as a source. Hemmings is normally a better source. I just finished reading Russian Motor Vehicles, Soviet Limousines 1939-2003, by Maurice R. Kelly. In this book, he has a whole chapter on Chinese Limousines. Reading that book and looking at the photographs of the cars, there is no way those first cars were based off of '55 Chryslers. The information I found in Kelly's book states that the Changchun plant that build the car was built with help of the Soviets. The deputy director and chief engineer of the Changchun works was a man named Meng Shao-Nung. Meng had worked and trained in the United States as an automotive engineer. The Hong QI CA-72, the first Red Flag limousine was designed by a team lead by another man, Cheng Zheng. Another problem with the theory of the car being built from old Chrysler tooling, is we that had no trade with mainland China from the time Mao Tse-Tong and Communists took over, until the thawing of relationships in the 1970's. Please, be careful of going by information especially found on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is notorious for allowing content, editing from anybody. Not all content on Wikipedia is professionally written or edited. Now Maurice Kelly could be wrong on some his information too. Looking at the three sources noted, Kelly's vs. Wikipedia vs. Hemmings. I'm sticking with Maurice Kelly. Now to clear up a mistake I made. It turns out the Red Flag model I got, does not represent the first car that came out in 1958. The model represents the "Second Series" CA-770, which first appeared in 1965. Early 2nd Series cars had round fog lights. The model comes with the later square ones.

The model kit represents the original Red Flag introduced in 1958. It looks nothing like a '55 Chrysler to me. Windsor, New Yorker, or 300.

It looks better than the box art indicates. Some inaccuracies. But, not really all that bad. I'll have to take some photos and post them here in the next few days. Maybe do a review?

Sorry to disappoint you, but I plan on building mine as close to stock as possible. I love the idea that in the world of Communism, where everybody is suppose to be equal. Some people in both Communist China and the former USSR were "more" equal than others, requiring the need for domestically built limousines.

From what I'm seeing, I agree with everything you say. The one difference with mine is the lack of pre-painted Red-Flag emblems on the front fenders. Mine also has light lines in the roof for cutting out the roof, and three little bumps for mounting microphones. I'll be needing to sand these features away before painting mine. They're very light. So it should not take a lot of sanding.

They may have not sold well at the time. But, are there others like me, who would buy them now if they could? I don't know? Atlantis has brought back a few kits that I believe were not big sellers in their time. Most recently, Mongram's Ghost of the Red Baron. I was at a local hobby shop recently, and saw that Atlantis' reissue from a few years ago, of Revell's old Flash Gordon kit has apparently become collectible already. Luckily I got one of those shortly after Atlantis reissued. I don't know if Atlantis has any of the the old Renwal tools or not. I'm just hoping and dreaming they might. And they see it might be profitable to bring the Revival/Exner cars back now. Another model, not car related. And not a big seller at the time. But, highly collectible now. Is Revell's 1959 Space Station. I had been told by a person at the old Revell/Monogram company a few years ago, that the dies for that kit were not kept at the time because of the poor sales. I hope this maybe not true. And that Atlantis maybe got there hand on this one too. With the sci-fi/space stuff they've reissued in recent years, this might be right up their alley. But, I'm not holding my breath on that one either.

I mostly build model cars. But, I do build other things, and I love what Atlantis has been offering for several years now. I especially like the reissuing of older sci-fi and speculative space subjects. There are a lot of these subjects that came out way before my time. And I've been building kits since the mid-1960's. Or in several case, they've reissued thing that I could not afford the last time they were out. Im hoping they keep on track they're going. Naturally, I hope there are some old, odd, car kits they may have gotten they're hands on too. I'd still love see the Rewal Revival series of cars come back. They may not have been great kits. They only released once that I know of, are subjects I'm very interested and could not afford, or even knew of when they were on the shelves back in the day.

I couldn't resist.

Amen. I can't agree with you more.

I can understand. At times, I feel I maybe not that far behind you. Yet, I've been in the hobby for 55 years now. I'm still car crazy. And for me, with my addictive personality, it's hard for me to stop. There are no AA like groups to help me with this addiction.

Testors paint has been junk for years now. I've been a lot happier since I made the switch over to Tamiya. Every so often I get suckered into buying a can of Testors paint.. More often than not, something goes wrong and I have to stip the paint and start over again. I have two models right now that I'm stripping off their "Extreme" Pearl White Lacquer. The stuff coming out of the can ran something bad. I now have a can of Tamiya Pearl White waiting in the wings. I've never had to strip a Tamiya paint job yet. So, I will not be missing Testors paints at all.

I'm sad. The world is no longer setup in a way that caters to my interests anymore. I've gotten old. It's damned depressing. I guess I'm only going to have Collectible Automobile coming to my mailbox in the near future.

I doubt the molds for those old 55's are still around. But, if they were, I hope Round 2 would consider them worthy of being reissued. I'd love to have all three of the cars shown above. And one of those three car sets included a '55 Thunderbird. It's the only time I know of that car being released in the popular 1/25 scale.